Muhammad Ali on Interracial Marriage

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playmaker88;6109763 said:
zombie;6109609 said:
playmaker88;6109536 said:
zombie;6109045 said:
playmaker88;6108816 said:
if you engage in interracial relationships /marriage for frivolous reasons ..or because you have some fucked up twisted rationalization of why your own is not good enough for you .. you are a sucka...what am i talking about this never happens

but hey if you happen to fall in love with whomever without that mental/psychological baggae more power to you

most interracial relationships fall in this category.. :^o

Adults choose who we love falling in love is for teenagers.

KYS you got that from that...

KYS

Stop being such a pussy you lafayette from true blood styled faggot

Your position on the issue is soft like baby shit ,talking about love??? There are more important things than love. Do you want something to love? love the future of black people more than your love your white girlfriend or your white grandmother.

you are an idiot and your comprehension skills fucking fail you.. stop acting like a bitch.. and step your jokes up..

Lafayette from true blood.. really kid..

You can be what ever kind of faggot you want to be the fact still remains that your position is a weak one.
 
playmaker88;6109819 said:
you actin like a girl right now..

Are you done?? you have nothing more to bring to the discussion so leave the thread you have not argued your point and now are just posting for no reason. Your position on the issue is weak and is based on falling in love with white women.
 
Will Munny;6109814 said:
Okay... Lets get taxanomic her for a second. A goose and a penguin aren't the same species. Not only could they not even produce sterile offspring, they couldn't produce offspring period.

Human beings are all one species, the differences are phenotypic. To think we are so different genetically based soley of phenotypic differences is the thinking of an absolute mental midget. Hitler thought it was cool tho. Human beings of all colors are so closely related they can produce viable offspring, not sterile hybrids.

Flocks of birds mixed routinely and is usually to the benefit of both species.

I mean Jesus Christ, have you never looked a bird feeder before?

Exactly. There are differences for a reason. Just because some birds, like humans, are exceptions to the rule (Most within a species remain unto their own), doesn't mean anything except that they're creating mutts. As I said, there are differences, big and small, for a reason. The goose cannot procreate with the penguin because it's not meant to be. "But wait!! All humans are capable of procreating with other humans" True. Yet, that is where our higher mental capabilities come into play and you make an intelligent decision to mate with someone of your own race. Why? So you don't cross-mix and create a being with an inherent identity crisis and highly impure blood. You do not become the filthy exception to the rule.

Gosh, you're not worthy of my text. That was too easy.
 
Muhammad Ali was a good boxer doesn't make him a genius. I disagree with his opinions god didn't make us different we decided to make our differences personal. Race is race but at the end of the day we all bleed red.
 
Cain1;6109864 said:
Date who you want marry who you want fuck who you want. Just don't forget who you are and where your from.

Pretty much .. if you sellin your selfout to mask your own insecurities and internal issues.. you doin it wrong..

How is my position weak you disagreed with the most innocuous part of my statement and didnt say shit to the meat of the argument.. and started acting like a bitch
 
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Will Munny;6109814 said:
Okay... Lets get taxanomic her for a second. A goose and a penguin aren't the same species. Not only could they not even produce sterile offspring, they couldn't produce offspring period.

Human beings are all one species, the differences are phenotypic. To think we are so different genetically based soley of phenotypic differences is the thinking of an absolute mental midget. Hitler thought it was cool tho. Human beings of all colors are so closely related they can produce viable offspring, not sterile hybrids.

Flocks of birds mixed routinely and is usually to the benefit of both species.

I mean Jesus Christ, have you never looked a bird feeder before?

I agree we're all the same but it doesn't change the fact that it is beneficial to marry within your race

For social issues, bruh.
 
zombie;6109809 said:
I can tell the two apart clearly you cannot i know the difference between a biracial person and a light skinned black person. Your random sampling of africans PROVES NOTHING because it depends on the section of africa that your sample is being taken from. Not all africans are that dark a random sample from nigeria will look different from a random sample from senegal. Have you been to africa? i have and can tell you the difference between the tribes based on how they look.

The whole african americans being lighter than africans thing is mostly bullshit and ignorance coming from people who have never even been outside of america. Most african american are dark brown to black and do not look like the picture you used.

NO it doesn't depend on the section of Africa. That's the point. The Africans that African Americans descend from largely came from a very specific region in Africa. The picture I put up there contains people from various different places in West Africa which is the region we African Americans descend from. You can look at the group and see there are variations and differences between their looks, but if you are really going to try and argue that those people are as varied in appearance as the group of African Americans I posted, then we can stop this discussion now because you're just arguing to argue whether it's supported by reality.

Furthermore, I have been to West Africa and I went to school with many West Africans both in undergrad and grad. So you ain't saying shit to me. Again, if you're really going to act like the variations in phenotypic traits in West Africa is as varied as with African Americans, we can just stop this discussion cause you're lying to yourself. As for your claim that most African Americans are dark brown to black, I'm just going to ignore that because it's nonsense. I grew up around nothing but black people in SC. Went to an HBCU in FL. Did some work as part of a black internship out in Cali. And I now live near DC, a chocolate city. And in every single one of those experiences and in every region I've ever been to, black skin tones have covered a wide spectrum. As a matter of fact it's something that's celebrated within the community. Just look at a black magazine like Essence or Ebony. Frankly, most of the claims you're making aren't based in any truth. You have this skewed perception of reality, and all your arguments are based on that rather than anything that really exists.

 
And the discussions about interspecies relationships going on in here is stupid too. It doesn't apply to humans since there is only one species of human. Only racists and people who know nothing about biological or athrophological classifications believe otherwise.

Human races are more akin to dog breeds than bird species, and anyone whose ever seen a dog knows they have no problem fucking and running around with dogs of other breeds.
 
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@lonious monk you want proof that mulattoes/mixed race people mean black people no good then just look at the modern day socities of latin america. that is what is coming to north america. African americans will be treated like haitians in the dominican republic. This will be the fault of people who think like you.

African american were lighter because the tribes you came from were lighter so even without the white blood you would still have lighter skin than most africans. How do i know this? a significant portion of the slaves who ended up in america came from the igbo tribe and the yoruba tribe of modern day nigeria and these two tribes of people especially the igbo are far from the darkest of african people in fact alot of igbos are red.
 
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zombie;6109899 said:
@lonious monk you want proof that mulattoes/mixed race people mean black people no good then just look at the modern day socities of latin america. that is what is coming to north america. African americans will be treated like haitians in the dominican republic. This will be the fault of people who think like you.

African american were lighter because the tribes you came from were lighter so even without the white blood you would still have lighter skin than most africans. How do i know this? a significant portion of the slaves who ended up in america came from the igbo tribe and the yoruba tribe of modern day nigeria and these two tribes of people especially the igbo are far from the darkest of african people in fact alot of igbos are red.

IGBO KWENU representing B-)
 
You can't have social races mixing without both being on equal playing fields and no rivalry. Competition is to who controls the culture and power when we descent from Earth to other planets and colonize. That's the war.
 
No problem whatsoever messin w/ white chicks

But marrying/havin kids w/ them is a whole nother topic.

B/c I'm a dark skin ngga. Like, I'm black as the back of Forrest Whitaker's neck. I'm proud of that. So if I have a lil mixed, green eyed, curly headed, Stephen Cury lookin ass lil ngga I'm gon feel some type o way. People talkin bout 'oh...oh, i see it, it's in the teeth. Yall got the same teeth'. Nah, b.
 
zombie;6109899 said:
@lonious monk you want proof that mulattoes/mixed race people mean black people no good then just look at the modern day socities of latin america. that is what is coming to north america. African americans will be treated like haitians in the dominican republic. This will be the fault of people who think like you.

African american were lighter because the tribes you came from were lighter so even without the white blood you would still have lighter skin than most africans. How do i know this? a significant portion of the slaves who ended up in america came from the igbo tribe and the yoruba tribe of modern day nigeria and these two tribes of people especially the igbo are far from the darkest of african people in fact alot of igbos are red.

You can't compare latin american people to african americans. Latin Americans have a different culture than us. Which is the point here. Culture is more to play in how a person looks at race relations than skin tone. And there is a lot more to the animosity between Dominicans and Haitians than skin tone. Denying history just to make a silly point is pathetic.

Here is a pic of some Yoruba men:

a-man-greeting-a-yoruba-king-oba1.jpg


Here is a pic of some Igbo men:

igbo3.jpg


Yes, there is some variation there. Nobody said that all West Africans looked exactly alike or were the color of tar. I said that the variation seen in African Americans can't be explained by what you see from our African lineage, and it can't.

EP-130209721.jpg


Here is another random pic of African Americans. Once again the variation is much greater than the African samples.
 
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ohhhla;6109880 said:
Will Munny;6109814 said:
Okay... Lets get taxanomic her for a second. A goose and a penguin aren't the same species. Not only could they not even produce sterile offspring, they couldn't produce offspring period.

Human beings are all one species, the differences are phenotypic. To think we are so different genetically based soley of phenotypic differences is the thinking of an absolute mental midget. Hitler thought it was cool tho. Human beings of all colors are so closely related they can produce viable offspring, not sterile hybrids.

Flocks of birds mixed routinely and is usually to the benefit of both species.

I mean Jesus Christ, have you never looked a bird feeder before?

I agree we're all the same but it doesn't change the fact that it is beneficial to marry within your race

For social issues, bruh.

I'm not debating any of that. I'm just pointing out that Ali's premise of birds never mixing was simply not true.
 
Will Munny;6109962 said:
ohhhla;6109880 said:
Will Munny;6109814 said:
Okay... Lets get taxanomic her for a second. A goose and a penguin aren't the same species. Not only could they not even produce sterile offspring, they couldn't produce offspring period.

Human beings are all one species, the differences are phenotypic. To think we are so different genetically based soley of phenotypic differences is the thinking of an absolute mental midget. Hitler thought it was cool tho. Human beings of all colors are so closely related they can produce viable offspring, not sterile hybrids.

Flocks of birds mixed routinely and is usually to the benefit of both species.

I mean Jesus Christ, have you never looked a bird feeder before?

I agree we're all the same but it doesn't change the fact that it is beneficial to marry within your race

For social issues, bruh.

I'm not debating any of that. I'm just pointing out that Ali's premise of birds never mixing was simply not true.

don't test. @willmunny knowledge of nature. he has his degree and live that shit everyday.

he is what we would call, an expert.
 
The Lonious Monk;6109885 said:
zombie;6109809 said:
I can tell the two apart clearly you cannot i know the difference between a biracial person and a light skinned black person. Your random sampling of africans PROVES NOTHING because it depends on the section of africa that your sample is being taken from. Not all africans are that dark a random sample from nigeria will look different from a random sample from senegal. Have you been to africa? i have and can tell you the difference between the tribes based on how they look.

The whole african americans being lighter than africans thing is mostly bullshit and ignorance coming from people who have never even been outside of america. Most african american are dark brown to black and do not look like the picture you used.

NO it doesn't depend on the section of Africa. That's the point. The Africans that African Americans descend from largely came from a very specific region in Africa. The picture I put up there contains people from various different places in West Africa which is the region we African Americans descend from. You can look at the group and see there are variations and differences between their looks, but if you are really going to try and argue that those people are as varied in appearance as the group of African Americans I posted, then we can stop this discussion now because you're just arguing to argue whether it's supported by reality.

Furthermore, I have been to West Africa and I went to school with many West Africans both in undergrad and grad. So you ain't saying shit to me. Again, if you're really going to act like the variations in phenotypic traits in West Africa is as varied as with African Americans, we can just stop this discussion cause you're lying to yourself. As for your claim that most African Americans are dark brown to black, I'm just going to ignore that because it's nonsense. I grew up around nothing but black people in SC. Went to an HBCU in FL. Did some work as part of a black internship out in Cali. And I now live near DC, a chocolate city. And in every single one of those experiences and in every region I've ever been to, black skin tones have covered a wide spectrum. As a matter of fact it's something that's celebrated within the community. Just look at a black magazine like Essence or Ebony. Frankly, most of the claims you're making aren't based in any truth. You have this skewed perception of reality, and all your arguments are based on that rather than anything that really exists.

You are trying to make it seem as if the picture you presented of african american represent the average skin color for them. i disagree with you MOST AA'S are not that red and most mullatoes are not that dark the picture you put fourth is not a true portrayal of reality.

Are african americans just like africans physically No I NEVER said that or implied it, however you do MOSTLY STILL LOOK AFRICAN. Africans has the greatest amount of phenotypic variations not america americans.

Most african americans come from these groups igbo akan yoruba and smaller amounts of bakongo mandinka and wolof. so pulling at random in west africa IS A bad idea if you want to know where AA'S CAME FROM and what the people they came from looked like. most of you came from nigeria. In fact still to this day most africans look igbo.

 

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