Muhammad Ali on Interracial Marriage

[The Lonious Monk]

argument is flawed..

dont be a "bird" brain Charlie..

I don't understand how his argument is flawed. No offense to any mixed people in here(well, I want it to be offensive enough that you at least remember it) but mixed people have a long history of selling out the race of their darker skin half to the race of their whiter skin half. Mixed people want to be white(or whichever is the lightest race they are comprised of) so badly that many times throughout history they have VOLUNTEERED to help subjugate other races, only to be subjugated themselves when they are no longer useful. After white men first landed in Africa they interbred with the natives, and it was those mixed offspring that comprised a good portion of the armies that whites used to steal Africa

Sorry, but this shit is stupid. Mixed people don't have any longer a history of selling out the race than non-mixed. After all, it wasn't mixed people that literally sold other members of their race to white people, so get out of here with that shit.

At the end of the day, the whole discussion is dumb. People of all shades have been down for the cause and people of all shades have betrayed the cause. Unless, you got some kinda proof showing that lighter skinned or biracial people have been quicker to betray than darker skinned, stop stating that shit as if it's some kind of fact. And yes I speak more in terms of skin tone because trying to parse out mixed vs non mixed is pointless. As I showed in another topic, the Census says the average African American has 24% European admixture. Let's be clear, a 25% admixture is like having a white grandparent. So the average African American is mixed especially compared to the Africans from which we descend. African Americans run the gamut from Charcoal to Light Bright and Damn Near White. So trying to parse out a certain shade and pointing at those people saying "They have a history of betraying us and aren't to be trusted" is just idiotic. It's hilarious to set up this battle between dark skinned blacks and light skinned blacks when the majority of blacks in America fall somewhere in the middle.

 

[rantanamo]

the problem with his argument is that he's misplacing culture for race. Of course he's just talking, but there are several subcultures within a race. You may also find subcultures between races that are more similar to each other than some of those within a so-called race. Education level, lifestyle, profession, view on religion and children can all be more of a factor to the individual than race. This is not to dismiss his time or place, because they are what made race a more important factor than those attributes. So in his context he has a point. But as a general point, its rubbish. Especially since he was living as part of a very specific subculture. On the flipside, would it make me a self hater if I chose a woman who grew up in a neighborhood similar to mine, is of the denomination, has a similar level of graduate education, makes similar money, has similar child rearing views and we just happen to like the same movies, but perhaps disagree on music and happens to be say Indian? Its society and the white establishment that has an interest in you not getting on with life and being with compatible people regardless of race because it breaks up their neat little compartmentalization of this society that they like. They want you to feel like you hate yourself. They want you to feel like you should be isolated. Its 2013. Why are we still bamboozled by all of this instead of created a better society than this?

 

[zombie]

argument is flawed..

dont be a "bird" brain Charlie..

I don't understand how his argument is flawed. No offense to any mixed people in here(well, I want it to be offensive enough that you at least remember it) but mixed people have a long history of selling out the race of their darker skin half to the race of their whiter skin half. Mixed people want to be white(or whichever is the lightest race they are comprised of) so badly that many times throughout history they have VOLUNTEERED to help subjugate other races, only to be subjugated themselves when they are no longer useful. After white men first landed in Africa they interbred with the natives, and it was those mixed offspring that comprised a good portion of the armies that whites used to steal Africa

Sorry, but this shit is stupid. Mixed people don't have any longer a history of selling out the race than non-mixed. After all, it wasn't mixed people that literally sold other members of their race to white people, so get out of here with that shit.

At the end of the day, the whole discussion is dumb. People of all shades have been down for the cause and people of all shades have betrayed the cause. Unless, you got some kinda proof showing that lighter skinned or biracial people have been quicker to betray than darker skinned, stop stating that shit as if it's some kind of fact. And yes I speak more in terms of skin tone because trying to parse out mixed vs non mixed is pointless. As I showed in another topic, the Census says the average African American has 24% European admixture. Let's be clear, a 25% admixture is like having a white grandparent. So the average African American is mixed especially compared to the Africans from which we descend. African Americans run the gamut from Charcoal to Light Bright and Damn Near White. So trying to parse out a certain shade and pointing at those people saying "They have a history of betraying us and aren't to be trusted" is just idiotic. It's hilarious to set up this battle between dark skinned blacks and light skinned blacks when the majority of blacks in America fall somewhere in the middle.

even if the average african american has one white grand parent ( which i don't believe by the way) they are still black because such a person is physically indistinguishable from many other african american who have a lesser percentage of european blood. when you study the history of africa and the history of africans in the americas it is easy to conclude that the greatest betrayals suffered by blacks have come from mixed people. These bastards who live in a space between only claim black when they are poor as soon as they get in a better situation they be come mulattoe. This has not happened as much in the states because you don't have a large mullatoe population yet but with the popularity of you way of think growing THAT WILL SOON CHANGE.

That is historical fact. There is a difference between light skinned blacks and people who are clearly mullatoe. Your whole fucking stance on the subject is weak.

 

[playmaker88]

if you engage in interracial relationships /marriage for frivolous reasons ..or because you have some fucked up twisted rationalization of why your own is not good enough for you .. you are a sucka...what am i talking about this never happens

but hey if you happen to fall in love with whomever without that mental/psychological baggae more power to you

most interracial relationships fall in this category.. :^o

Adults choose who we love falling in love is for teenagers.

KYS you got that from that...

Spoiler

KYS

 

[xxCivicxx]

argument is flawed..

dont be a "bird" brain Charlie..

I don't understand how his argument is flawed. No offense to any mixed people in here(well, I want it to be offensive enough that you at least remember it) but mixed people have a long history of selling out the race of their darker skin half to the race of their whiter skin half. Mixed people want to be white(or whichever is the lightest race they are comprised of) so badly that many times throughout history they have VOLUNTEERED to help subjugate other races, only to be subjugated themselves when they are no longer useful. After white men first landed in Africa they interbred with the natives, and it was those mixed offspring that comprised a good portion of the armies that whites used to steal Africa

Sorry, but this shit is stupid. Mixed people don't have any longer a history of selling out the race than non-mixed. After all, it wasn't mixed people that literally sold other members of their race to white people, so get out of here with that shit.

At the end of the day, the whole discussion is dumb. People of all shades have been down for the cause and people of all shades have betrayed the cause. Unless, you got some kinda proof showing that lighter skinned or biracial people have been quicker to betray than darker skinned, stop stating that shit as if it's some kind of fact. And yes I speak more in terms of skin tone because trying to parse out mixed vs non mixed is pointless. As I showed in another topic, the Census says the average African American has 24% European admixture. Let's be clear, a 25% admixture is like having a white grandparent. So the average African American is mixed especially compared to the Africans from which we descend. African Americans run the gamut from Charcoal to Light Bright and Damn Near White. So trying to parse out a certain shade and pointing at those people saying "They have a history of betraying us and aren't to be trusted" is just idiotic. It's hilarious to set up this battle between dark skinned blacks and light skinned blacks when the majority of blacks in America fall somewhere in the middle.

Bruh are you kidding me? I'm just stating facts, don't get in your feelings over it. What I said about Africa is a FACT. Mixed people have the biggest identity crisis issues, just about any psychiatrist can tell you that. Mixed blacks were the ones that tried to slow down the Haitian revolution because even tho they weren't considered as valuable as pure whites by whites, they considered themselves more valuable than pure black people. And how exactly do you know for sure that mixed people didn't sell blacks into slavery? Mixed people by and large have been left out of most history books, except when they commit acts of atrocities, because it's always the mixed people that do the most extreme things to prove shit to themselves. Hitler and J Edgar Hoover are 2 good examples of that.
http://www.uky.edu/~popkin/Haitian%20Revolution%20Lecture.htm

It was mostly the mixed race class that fought AGAINST the slave revolt, even though they themselves did not have the same rights as whites.

There's even a story about how during the Haitian Revolution one of the french officers had so much contempt for the mixed race officers in his army THAT HAD BEEN HELPING HIM, that he placed a bunch of them in a room and literally killed them all. Do you think that stopped the mixed people at the time from wanting to associate with whites? Nope

There's a difference between the word 'mixed' and the word 'lightskin' I used one of those terms for a reason, try to stick to using it and you'lll start to see my point eventually, just do some freakin research. Why do I have to educate so many on our people's history? I think interracial dating is fine, the issue is when marriage/kids come into the picture

 

[zombie]

the problem with his argument is that he's misplacing culture for race. Of course he's just talking, but there are several subcultures within a race. You may also find subcultures between races that are more similar to each other than some of those within a so-called race. Education level, lifestyle, profession, view on religion and children can all be more of a factor to the individual than race. This is not to dismiss his time or place, because they are what made race a more important factor than those attributes. So in his context he has a point. But as a general point, its rubbish. Especially since he was living as part of a very specific subculture. On the flipside, would it make me a self hater if I chose a woman who grew up in a neighborhood similar to mine, is of the denomination, has a similar level of graduate education, makes similar money, has similar child rearing views and we just happen to like the same movies, but perhaps disagree on music and happens to be say Indian? Its society and the white establishment that has an interest in you not getting on with life and being with compatible people regardless of race because it breaks up their neat little compartmentalization of this society that they like. They want you to feel like you hate yourself. They want you to feel like you should be isolated. Its 2013. Why are we still bamboozled by all of this instead of created a better society than this?

@ the bolded. Yes you are a fucking traitor I DON'T give a fuck if that indian bitch can cure cancer or sucks a mean dick if you marry her or especially if you have children with her you have created one less black family. you are a fucking traitor your duty to the future of the black race was to help strengthen us not weaken us.

You can get on with life with a black woman, we cannot create a better black society by race mixing what that creates is a mixed race society. Look in the world today and in all mixed race nations were are black people positioned? at the bottom. Don't be a fucking fool.

 

[zombie]

if you engage in interracial relationships /marriage for frivolous reasons ..or because you have some fucked up twisted rationalization of why your own is not good enough for you .. you are a sucka...what am i talking about this never happens

but hey if you happen to fall in love with whomever without that mental/psychological baggae more power to you

most interracial relationships fall in this category.. :^o

Adults choose who we love falling in love is for teenagers.

KYS you got that from that...

Spoiler

KYS

Stop being such a pussy you lafayette from true blood styled faggot

Your position on the issue is soft like baby shit ,talking about love??? There are more important things than love. Do you want something to love? love the future of black people more than your love your white girlfriend or your white grandmother.

 

[zombie]

By the way if simply not fucking outside the race is something you weaklings consider too pro-black, radical and militant then the black race in america is even more fucked up than i thought we were.

 

[SixSickSins]

He's right on the mark. That is why I'm a separatist. You need to stick to your own...there are differences (big and small) for a reason. A Black should never mate with a white. I would never defile my superior Black womb/body with the ejaculate of a white man...and that's on my life!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SixSickSins]

Any black person race mixing does not really care about black people and their opinions on the trouble facing black/african people is void.

@PICO is Quadroon dating a dark skinned black jamaican guy so at least she's trying to breed back into the race so she can get a pass. i support fucking mix breeds back into the race it's the only way to fix their parents mistake.

Dumbest fucking thing posted and that says a lot when Dro's post are all through out this thread.

What's so dumb about it? You just run your fucking mouth because you don't have a proper rebuttal. race mixing prevents the creation of black families.

You marry what you love and if you marry a white then you must care less about the black and if you don't love black people enough to be married to us then fuck your opinion on us.

How you going to be pro-black and against mixing of races but in the same breath be cool with fucking a mixed race Quadroon like Pico to fix her parent's mistake? Hence the reason I said that was the dumbest post in this thread.

Now either you're just talking shit or you just made a mental error while typing and need to repent for your acknowledgement of being pro-race mixing...........................which one is it?

I think what Zombie meant is based on the fact that Black genes trump white genes all the time. Why? Because we're the dominant force. So, by accepting worthy mixed folks back into the fold, we can be assured that our superior Black genes will be such an unfuckwitable diluent that we needn't worry about the feeble white (or whatever race) genes/traits they may carry. We are simply too powerful.

 

[MARIO_DRO]

I DO AGREE WITH THE "PURE RACE" THING DOE.... U JUST CANT MIX EEEVVVERRYBODY UP AND THEN NOT REPRODUCE WITH YOUR OWN

 

[zombie]

Any black person race mixing does not really care about black people and their opinions on the trouble facing black/african people is void.

@PICO is Quadroon dating a dark skinned black jamaican guy so at least she's trying to breed back into the race so she can get a pass. i support fucking mix breeds back into the race it's the only way to fix their parents mistake.

Dumbest fucking thing posted and that says a lot when Dro's post are all through out this thread.

What's so dumb about it? You just run your fucking mouth because you don't have a proper rebuttal. race mixing prevents the creation of black families.

You marry what you love and if you marry a white then you must care less about the black and if you don't love black people enough to be married to us then fuck your opinion on us.

How you going to be pro-black and against mixing of races but in the same breath be cool with fucking a mixed race Quadroon like Pico to fix her parent's mistake? Hence the reason I said that was the dumbest post in this thread.

Now either you're just talking shit or you just made a mental error while typing and need to repent for your acknowledgement of being pro-race mixing...........................which one is it?

I think what Zombie meant is based on the fact that Black genes trump white genes all the time. Why? Because we're the dominant force. So, by accepting worthy mixed folks back into the fold, we can be assured that our superior Black genes will be such an unfuckwitable diluent that we needn't worry about the feeble white (or whatever race) genes/traits they may carry. We are simply too powerful.

This is why i love you. You are one of the only people at this place who get it.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

even if the average african american has one white grand parent ( which i don't believe by the way) they are still black because such a person is physically indistinguishable from many other african american who have a lesser percentage of european blood. when you study the history of africa and the history of africans in the americas it is easy to conclude that the greatest betrayals suffered by blacks have come from mixed people. These bastards who live in a space between only claim black when they are poor as soon as they get in a better situation they be come mulattoe. This has not happened as much in the states because you don't have a large mullatoe population yet but with the popularity of you way of think growing THAT WILL SOON CHANGE.

That is historical fact. There is a difference between light skinned blacks and people who are clearly mullatoe. Your whole fucking stance on the subject is weak.

lol What you're saying is just silly. First of all, it's not as easy to distinguish biracial African Americans from light skinned African Americans. Where do you get this crap from? There are plenty of African Americans with two "Black" parents that are lighter than biracial African Americans. A random sampling of African Americans looks like this:

A random sampling of West Africans from which most African Americans descend from looks like this:

If you can't look at that and understand how mixed African Americans are in general, I don't know what to tell you. Aside from that, if you're going to claim that biracial people are factually more disloyal than non biracial people, I'm going to need you to provide some real proof. I don't want to hear any silly anecdotal evidence or isolated incidents. Give me some real proof. Because if you can't, then you need to shut that shit up and quit acting like what you're saying is indisputable.

Bruh are you kidding me? I'm just stating facts, don't get in your feelings over it. What I said about Africa is a FACT. Mixed people have the biggest identity crisis issues, just about any psychiatrist can tell you that. Mixed blacks were the ones that tried to slow down the Haitian revolution because even tho they weren't considered as valuable as pure whites by whites, they considered themselves more valuable than pure black people. And how exactly do you know for sure that mixed people didn't sell blacks into slavery? Mixed people by and large have been left out of most history books, except when they commit acts of atrocities, because it's always the mixed people that do the most extreme things to prove shit to themselves. Hitler and J Edgar Hoover are 2 good examples of that.
http://www.uky.edu/~popkin/Haitian%20Revolution%20Lecture.htm

It was mostly the mixed race class that fought AGAINST the slave revolt, even though they themselves did not have the same rights as whites.

There's even a story about how during the Haitian Revolution one of the french officers had so much contempt for the mixed race officers in his army THAT HAD BEEN HELPING HIM, that he placed a bunch of them in a room and literally killed them all. Do you think that stopped the mixed people at the time from wanting to associate with whites? Nope

There's a difference between the word 'mixed' and the word 'lightskin' I used one of those terms for a reason, try to stick to using it and you'lll start to see my point eventually, just do some freakin research. Why do I have to educate so many on our people's history? I think interracial dating is fine, the issue is when marriage/kids come into the picture

You're not reporting facts. You're making a dumbass generalization based on isolated incidents. Hitler and Hoover? Really? What are they examples of? Both of them are white racially, so what are you even talking about? Again, you're saying it's always mixed people that do something, and forgetting that the whole reason African Americans are where they are is because of non mixed blacks. No example you've given has been more egregious than facilitating the African Slave Trade. And it's nice that you offering these isolated stories about a mixed traitor here and a mixed traitor there. Do you really think I can't find examples of non mixed people doing the same thing? The Denmark Vesey conspiracy wasn't foiled by mixed people. They were pure blooded slaves and yet they betrayed their brethren to maintain their own standing.

How a biracial person acts usually has a lot to do with how they are treated. There are a lot of biracial people, you'd never know were biracial because they've always been accepted by black people and considered themselves black. Then you have some that are clearly outside of the community, and that's largely because they've been ostracized and treated poorly by people in the community. And there is the ironic thing about this whole discussion. You look at biracial people as if they are the enemy, when in reality the ones that are the enemy are that way largely because people like you treat them like the enemy from the start. Why should they have nay loyalty to someone like you? The white people might not accept them, but at least they'll get rewarded in some what going that route. What reason would they have to fight and struggle on your side when all they'll get from you is treated like someone who isn't really down or trust worthy? People like you are why the black community can't rise. What we need is unity, but you guys look for any and every reason to divide.

 

[Will Munny]

Birds actually mix in flocks together all the time. Hybrid are not unheard of at all.

Funny how he said blue birds don't mix with other birds but actually when you put out blue birds nest boxes you out them up in pairs. More often than not tree swallows use one box and blue birds use the other.

I can't stand when people try to use nature in arguments and are totally wrong with how nature works.

Really? A no sign? Could you please explain how I was wrong @sixsicksins? All I see you do is flag and no sign because you're clearly too scared engage in any kind if intelligent discussion.

 

[playmaker88]

if you engage in interracial relationships /marriage for frivolous reasons ..or because you have some fucked up twisted rationalization of why your own is not good enough for you .. you are a sucka...what am i talking about this never happens

but hey if you happen to fall in love with whomever without that mental/psychological baggae more power to you

most interracial relationships fall in this category.. :^o

Adults choose who we love falling in love is for teenagers.

KYS you got that from that...

Spoiler

KYS

Stop being such a pussy you lafayette from true blood styled faggot

Your position on the issue is soft like baby shit ,talking about love??? There are more important things than love. Do you want something to love? love the future of black people more than your love your white girlfriend or your white grandmother.

you are an idiot and your comprehension skills fucking fail you.. stop acting like a bitch.. and step your jokes up..

Lafayette from true blood.. really kid..

 

[SixSickSins]

Any black person race mixing does not really care about black people and their opinions on the trouble facing black/african people is void.

@PICO is Quadroon dating a dark skinned black jamaican guy so at least she's trying to breed back into the race so she can get a pass. i support fucking mix breeds back into the race it's the only way to fix their parents mistake.

Dumbest fucking thing posted and that says a lot when Dro's post are all through out this thread.

What's so dumb about it? You just run your fucking mouth because you don't have a proper rebuttal. race mixing prevents the creation of black families.

You marry what you love and if you marry a white then you must care less about the black and if you don't love black people enough to be married to us then fuck your opinion on us.

How you going to be pro-black and against mixing of races but in the same breath be cool with fucking a mixed race Quadroon like Pico to fix her parent's mistake? Hence the reason I said that was the dumbest post in this thread.

Now either you're just talking shit or you just made a mental error while typing and need to repent for your acknowledgement of being pro-race mixing...........................which one is it?

I think what Zombie meant is based on the fact that Black genes trump white genes all the time. Why? Because we're the dominant force. So, by accepting worthy mixed folks back into the fold, we can be assured that our superior Black genes will be such an unfuckwitable diluent that we needn't worry about the feeble white (or whatever race) genes/traits they may carry. We are simply too powerful.

This is why i love you. You are one of the only people at this place who get it.

:X Yup, if you weren't married I'd put a ring on it. Little Nigerian/Jamaican militant queens and kings everywhere then move back home. But peace and blessings from the Black Creator unto your marriage and family. Chiamaka!

 

[Will Munny]

There are atleast 4 species of ducks mixed together here floating, sleeping and thriving. Ali ain't know shit about birds.

 

[SixSickSins]

Birds actually mix in flocks together all the time. Hybrid are not unheard of at all.

Funny how he said blue birds don't mix with other birds but actually when you put out blue birds nest boxes you out them up in pairs. More often than not tree swallows use one box and blue birds use the other.

I can't stand when people try to use nature in arguments and are totally wrong with how nature works.

Really? A no sign? Could you please explain how I was wrong @sixsicksins? All I see you do is flag and no sign because you're clearly too scared engage in any kind if intelligent discussion.

Ayo, wigga, fall the fuck back iight? I spar with plenty people on here--especially if I disagree. If you wanna parlay with a young cub then put 'em up mouseketeer because my thugnacity is unmatched. I nosigned because most birds do stick with their own species. You posted a few exceptions to the rule. Big deal.

Mhmm, yeah I'd love to see a goose fuck a penguin and share a nest BITCH. Riiiight. Lil ol' SUPER BITCH.

 

[zombie]

even if the average african american has one white grand parent ( which i don't believe by the way) they are still black because such a person is physically indistinguishable from many other african american who have a lesser percentage of european blood. when you study the history of africa and the history of africans in the americas it is easy to conclude that the greatest betrayals suffered by blacks have come from mixed people. These bastards who live in a space between only claim black when they are poor as soon as they get in a better situation they be come mulattoe. This has not happened as much in the states because you don't have a large mullatoe population yet but with the popularity of you way of think growing THAT WILL SOON CHANGE.

That is historical fact. There is a difference between light skinned blacks and people who are clearly mullatoe. Your whole fucking stance on the subject is weak.

lol What you're saying is just silly. First of all, it's not as easy to distinguish biracial African Americans from light skinned African Americans. Where do you get this crap from? There are plenty of African Americans with two "Black" parents that are lighter than biracial African Americans. A random sampling of African Americans looks like this:

A random sampling of West Africans from which most African Americans descend from looks like this:

If you can't look at that and understand how mixed African Americans are in general, I don't know what to tell you. Aside from that, if you're going to claim that biracial people are factually more disloyal than non biracial people, I'm going to need you to provide some real proof. I don't want to hear any silly anecdotal evidence or isolated incidents. Give me some real proof. Because if you can't, then you need to shut that shit up and quit acting like what you're saying is indisputable.

Bruh are you kidding me? I'm just stating facts, don't get in your feelings over it. What I said about Africa is a FACT. Mixed people have the biggest identity crisis issues, just about any psychiatrist can tell you that. Mixed blacks were the ones that tried to slow down the Haitian revolution because even tho they weren't considered as valuable as pure whites by whites, they considered themselves more valuable than pure black people. And how exactly do you know for sure that mixed people didn't sell blacks into slavery? Mixed people by and large have been left out of most history books, except when they commit acts of atrocities, because it's always the mixed people that do the most extreme things to prove shit to themselves. Hitler and J Edgar Hoover are 2 good examples of that.
http://www.uky.edu/~popkin/Haitian%20Revolution%20Lecture.htm

It was mostly the mixed race class that fought AGAINST the slave revolt, even though they themselves did not have the same rights as whites.

There's even a story about how during the Haitian Revolution one of the french officers had so much contempt for the mixed race officers in his army THAT HAD BEEN HELPING HIM, that he placed a bunch of them in a room and literally killed them all. Do you think that stopped the mixed people at the time from wanting to associate with whites? Nope

There's a difference between the word 'mixed' and the word 'lightskin' I used one of those terms for a reason, try to stick to using it and you'lll start to see my point eventually, just do some freakin research. Why do I have to educate so many on our people's history? I think interracial dating is fine, the issue is when marriage/kids come into the picture

You're not reporting facts. You're making a dumbass generalization based on isolated incidents. Hitler and Hoover? Really? What are they examples of? Both of them are white racially, so what are you even talking about? Again, you're saying it's always mixed people that do something, and forgetting that the whole reason African Americans are where they are is because of non mixed blacks. No example you've given has been more egregious than facilitating the African Slave Trade. And it's nice that you offering these isolated stories about a mixed traitor here and a mixed traitor there. Do you really think I can't find examples of non mixed people doing the same thing? The Denmark Vesey conspiracy wasn't foiled by mixed people. They were pure blooded slaves and yet they betrayed their brethren to maintain their own standing.

How a biracial person acts usually has a lot to do with how they are treated. There are a lot of biracial people, you'd never know were biracial because they've always been accepted by black people and considered themselves black. Then you have some that are clearly outside of the community, and that's largely because they've been ostracized and treated poorly by people in the community. And there is the ironic thing about this whole discussion. You look at biracial people as if they are the enemy, when in reality the ones that are the enemy are that way largely because people like you treat them like the enemy from the start. Why should they have nay loyalty to someone like you? The white people might not accept them, but at least they'll get rewarded in some what going that route. What reason would they have to fight and struggle on your side when all they'll get from you is treated like someone who isn't really down or trust worthy? People like you are why the black community can't rise. What we need is unity, but you guys look for any and every reason to divide.

I can tell the two apart clearly you cannot i know the difference between a biracial person and a light skinned black person. Your random sampling of africans PROVES NOTHING because it depends on the section of africa that your sample is being taken from. Not all africans are that dark a random sample from nigeria will look different from a random sample from senegal. Have you been to africa? i have and can tell you the difference between the tribes based on how they look.

The whole african americans being lighter than africans thing is mostly bullshit and ignorance coming from people who have never even been outside of america. Most african american are dark brown to black and do not look like the picture you used.

 

[Will Munny]

Okay... Lets get taxanomic her for a second. A goose and a penguin aren't the same species. Not only could they not even produce sterile offspring, they couldn't produce offspring period.

Human beings are all one species, the differences are phenotypic. To think we are so different genetically based soley of phenotypic differences is the thinking of an absolute mental midget. Hitler thought it was cool tho. Human beings of all colors are so closely related they can produce viable offspring, not sterile hybrids.

Flocks of birds mixed routinely and is usually to the benefit of both species.

I mean Jesus Christ, have you never looked a bird feeder before?