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shenco;1703551 said:
We took it to arbitration but the nigga was too greedy. He'd rather get paid on a bum squad then take a little less money on a potential World Series team. Fuck him. It's like Amare and the Suns all over again

Yep. He declined arbitration cuz he had Boras all up in his ear on some "Fuck that Phillies team, Man. Imma see that u get paid."

SMH @ Werth going to a bum ass team. At least he got paid. When those losses start racking up and he goes to mgmt to ask why they won't get some help, all he'll need to do is take a peek @ his over-inflated contract. The Nats were outta their collective minds to give him that much money. But hey...if I were Werth, I'd have taken the money and ran, too.
 
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DrMindbender122;1703567 said:
Yep. He declined arbitration cuz he had Boras all up in his ear on some "Fuck that Phillies team, Man. Imma see that u get paid."

SMH @ Werth going to a bum ass team. At least he got paid. When those losses start racking up and he goes to mgmt to ask why they won't get some help, all he'll need to do is take a peek @ his over-inflated contract. The Nats were outta their collective minds to give him that much money. But hey...if I were Werth, I'd have taken the money and ran, too.

Of course, I mean he already got a chip so I guess it's all about the money now. Either way yea the phillies outfield takes a hit but I just hope D.Brown and Ben Francisco can step up. This squad got another two WS' in them
 
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shenco;1703594 said:
Of course, I mean he already got a chip so I guess it's all about the money now. Either way yea the phillies outfield takes a hit but I just hope D.Brown and Ben Francisco can step up. This squad got another two WS' in them

I dunno about D. Brown. They just yanked his ass from Winter ball cuz he was sporting a 0.69 avg through 9 games while playing in the Domincan Republic. Not a very good sign of things to come in 2011.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20101205_Phillies_Notes__Phillies__Brown_returns_from_winter_ball.html
 
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werth definitely made that move for the money, cause nationals aint doin shit compared to the phillies
 
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DatGuyJ22;1703692 said:
werth definitely made that move for the money, cause nationals aint doin shit compared to the phillies

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WTF at the Nationals , Werth is a Good Player but damn....They paid that dude as if he can Carry a team by himself , he was always gonna see good pitches playing in that Phillies Lineup , Wow they Trippin with that Deal they just gave Werth..
 
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Is it safe to say, He is not Werth it, will be the most played out phrase a year from now.
 
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From Yahoo! Sports.com

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP)—Some general managers had just arrived at the winter meetings and some were not even at the winter meetings yet when the Washington Nationals made a startling announcement Sunday evening: They had agreed with right fielder Jayson Werth(notes) on a $126 million, seven-year contract.

“I thought they were trying to reduce the deficit in Washington,” new Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said.

The 31-year-old Werth, who helped the Phillies win the 2008 World Series title, hit .296 this year in his fourth and final season with Philadelphia. He had an NL-high 46 doubles, 27 homers and 85 RBIs.

“To just spend money wildly on people is not the point. What we’re going to do is create an atmosphere … of winning,” Werth said on a conference call.

“I signed here to win, and I believe that we’re going to win. It’s going to be a challenge, it’s going to take some time,” he said.

His agreement was announced two days after the Nationals’ cleanup hitter, Adam Dunn(notes), left for a $56 million, four-year contract with the Chicago White Sox.

“We took some light criticism about Adam Dunn leaving,” Nationals manager Jim Riggleman said, speaking in the news conference room after the announcement. “People said it was the money. But it’s not about the money, as this deal shows. We gave Jayson Werth more.”

Werth’s contract matched the 12th-largest among current players, a huge deal for a player with only one All-Star selection to his credit. And coming relatively early in the free-agent market, it could have a trickle-down for others seeking new deals.

“Makes some of our contracts look pretty good,” said Alderson, whose Mets have been saddled with high-priced, underperforming players. “It’s a long time and a lot of money.”

Werth moves from the team that has won four straight NL East titles to one that finished last this year at 69-93 and hasn’t had a winning record since 2003 — the franchise’s next-to-last season as the Montreal Expos.

“It kind of exemplifies phase two of the Washington Nationals’ process,” general manager Mike Rizzo said. “Phase one was scouting and player development, building the farm system. … Now it’s the time to go to the second phase and really compete for division titles and championships.”

As to why the Phillies didn’t re-sign him, Werth said, “It’s something they’re going to have to answer.”

“Unfortunately, it didn’t work out. I did have a great time in Philadelphia,” he said. “Once you get to a point where you feel unwanted or you get a sense you’re not part of the plans, it’s time to move on. At that point, I was ready to go, and fortunately enough for me I found a home in Washington.”

Werth’s deal was negotiated by agent Scott Boras, who also negotiated big-money agreements with the Nationals for the last two No. 1 picks in the amateur draft, pitcher Stephen Strasburg(notes) in 2009 and catcher-outfielder Bryce Harper this year.

“We think he’s going to be a big piece of the puzzle,” Rizzo said. “We certainly have more holes to fill. We had more work to do, and we’re certainly aggressively going on from here and beyond.”

Boras said talks began just before Thanksgiving when Nationals owners Ted Lerner and Mark Lerner met with Werth at Boras’ office in Newport Beach, Calif. The sides reached a preliminary agreement Friday.

“I’ve been given a lot of assurances by the Lerner family and by Mike that we’re going to go after some guys that are going to make a difference. They’re going to put this team to where it needs to be. I’m definitely on board with that,” Werth said.

Familiarity from the previous deals helped.

“The Lerners and I don’t share Thanksgiving dinner, but we’ve shared a lot of dinners lately. That’s for sure,” Boras said.

As the Nationals hope to become competitive, Boras said Werth is only an early step. He compared it to when the Detroit Tigers negotiated a deal with him for Ivan Rodriguez(notes), then added Magglio Ordonez(notes) and Kenny Rogers(notes) from his clients in later years.

“To change the perception of your franchise, you’re going to have to win, and once you do win, you’re going to have to continue to win, and that’s a hard thing to do in the National League East when you have a couple of Goliaths there,” Boras said. “The question is: Do you want to be a Goliath along with the two you have and maybe another couple teams that are on their way to taking those steps to be that?”

Werth played for Toronto (2002-03) and the Los Angeles Dodgers (2004-05) before becoming an All-Star with the Phillies in 2009.

“For Jayson this was a decision where he certainly wanted to know that this was place that was not only going to take every step possible to sign young players in the draft, as they’ve exhibited, but also take steps a core system in the minor leagues and also take further steps and advance in the free-agent process so that he could be surrounded by quality major leaguers in addition to those already present in the Nationals organization.”

Nationals manager Jim Riggleman, who didn’t know the deal had been finalized until just before it was announced. was the Dodgers bench coach while Werth played for Los Angeles.

“We got the inside scoop on who the man is and who the person is,” Rizzo said. “Jim is a great judge of character and clubhouse presence. He was very flowery in his praise in Jayson on and off the field. He feels, like I feel, Jayson’s best days haven’t been had yet.

Werth is the grandson of Ducky Schofield and nephew of Dick Schofield, a minor league teammate of Rizzo. In addition, Rizzo has scouted Werth since he played high-school ball.

“I’ve been a fan of his lineage and his family,” Rizzo said.
 
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Shoutout to The MLB Off-season Thread

But yea this was Ridiculous , they paid him as if he can carry a team , he's not that type of player , he benefited from the Phillies Lineup , they have had one of the Best Lineups in not just the NL but in all of baseball, he's not gonna have those type of guys around him with the Nationals, Zimmerman is a good player but that Lineup is not gonna allow him to see the type of pitches he got to see with the phillies

i Mean the Nationals Reached big time on some stretch Armstrong shit with that one....i had to do a double take earlier when i saw it on ESPN like wtf?? Lol
 
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I honestly need someone to explain to me how this makes sense. I could understand if the guy was young, and you felt he was getting close to reaching his potential. Werth is 31 years old and decent at best. He's definitely not a difference maker. Why?
 
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arbitration;1704542 said:
I honestly need someone to explain to me how this makes sense. I could understand if the guy was young, and you felt he was getting close to reaching his potential. Werth is 31 years old and decent at best. He's definitely not a difference maker. Why?

im guessing the Nationals are going this route because them as a organization aren't going to attract any good players unless they overpay for them, if they were to offer him the same amount of money as a Playoff team thats Missing just that Extra Hitter who is he going to? the Playoff team , or the team who at least competes year in and year out ....

is the Deal wack? yes , but is this Kind of what they have to do to be able to get players? to be honest Yes , cuz they aren't a house hold organization to where players want to play for them unless they Overpay them...

they'll never get off the ground by trying to offer the same Contracts as Competitive teams offer certain players.
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1704613 said:
hell of a L...nigga gettin money, but he'll never see the playoffs again...

and aint no way he werth..that much..

OH, ICEE what u did dere....
 
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