Misogynoir: Black women are placed at the bottom because of anti-Blackness (long read)

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_Goldie_;6670798 said:
Women oppression? Df he been at?

A nigga cant even sneeze the wrong way at work without a bitch shoutin sexual harassment or discrimination. Fuck these bitches, this shits getin outta hand.

Misogyny dehumanizes women in, general. Anti-Black misogyny (which functions because of racism, sexism and White supremacy) makes Black women “not human” and thereby worthy of hatred and abuse yet White women the standard of humanity that Black women should aspire to.

Misogyny makes men’s “natural” angered reactions to women include the word “bitch” where their privilege and power makes it different from women who seek to reclaim that word and use between each other. Anti-Black misogyny creates other oppressive slurs, where even “black” itself becomes a pejorative. “Black bitch.” “Nigger bitch.”

Misogyny explains the slut shaming of Miley Cyrus. Anti-Black misogyny makes Miley Cyrus an “innocent” White woman exploring her sexuality while using Black women’s culture and bodies as costumes to be tossed once bored and reinforces stereotypes about Black women’s sexuality as “deviant” and ultimately distant from her own, as something “possessing” her during her “coming of age” era as she continues her eat, pray, love syndrome of culture slumming to evolve into peak “experienced” Whiteness when older.

Misogyny makes women’s bodies objects, not a physical expression of whole human beings. Anti-Black misogyny makes Black women’s bodies objects for breeding, sex or spectacle. It means open voyeurism–whether Sara Baartman of the past, the decade plus of comments on Serena Williams’ body or a recent event where a Black woman was treated as an object to gawk at (beyond her clothing) by literally everyone (including White women) in a public space in New York–is considered a normal reaction to specific Black female bodies. And all of this occurs while thin White female bodies are presented as the ideal. Where any Black women’s nudity or dancing is deemed “hypersexual” yet White women’s nudity or dancing has room for nuance is anti-Black misogyny.

Misogyny makes the exploitation of women’s labor (through sexism being the reason for lower wages) worse by including the rationalization of sexual harassment, abuse in the workplace and global exploitation of women’s work. Anti-Black misogyny means that on top of lower wages than White women, Black women cannot cry in the workplace (Black Tears™ don’t work or exist like White Tears™ do) and use that as a source of power and face stereotypes of being “angry” (connected to dehumanization where we aren’t deemed “real” women) which limits our voices being heard, positions we are offered or recourse against abuse from Whites in the workplace.

Misogyny supporting rape culture is why women are raped and rarely receive justice. It’s why 97% of rapists won’t spend a day in jail. Anti-Black misogyny means that the legacy of perceiving Black women as automatically “unrapeable” and as “whores” because of how White supremacy (myth of the purity of White womanhood) and racism (stereotypes about Black womanhood made to justify centuries of rape, exploitative body experimentation and abuse) work together to justify slavery and build capitalism still persists today and shapes conversation on rape where the victim is usually framed as a White teen or college co-ed.

Misogyny reduces women to stereotypes in a similar fashion to bodily objectification. Anti-Black misogyny is why there are no White stereotypes or controlling images to match these that are used to marginalize and oppress Black women: mammy, Sapphire, Jezebel, welfare queen, matriarch (as a racialized pejorative), angry Black woman, Strong Black Woman. It’s why despite a legacy of always working, even when we didn’t own our wages or our bodies, stereotypes like “welfare cheat” and “gold digger” are presented as Black women by default. And TV tropes about Whites do not parallel to these. Tropes are not used to control and oppress Whites in every sphere. This is beyond just media.

Misogyny encapsulates the hateful abuse that is oppressive towards women. Anti-Black misogyny, however, is shaped as something Black women deserve or should endure as White women are posited as the true victims of misogyny. (trudy)
http://www.gradientlair.com/post/60973580823/general-misogyny-versus-misogynoir
 
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.
 
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)
 
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

bro... black women come in myriad flavas...
 
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

Please refer to this and stop participating in the patriarchal, hierarchical male gaze:

BW women have the right to choose what we want to do with our hair, whether it may be natural or weave; it is our right to choose any hairstyle that pleases us. BM patriarchal, hierarchical male gaze does not determine or command any BW to keep their hair "natural" because it is lame to a male's point of view.

As a BW, I have had dealt with being fired from my job for wearing my hair natural or being pressured by a BM to wear a weave because natural hair is "ugly". As other BW deal with oppression throughout the years associated with our hair and how we wear it; it is OUR choice to chose how we decide to manipulate OUR hair to our own pleasing, not for a man. By BM determining that a BW must wear her hair natural, then he is holding his masculinity as a source of power, therefore implementing sexism against BW because he does not agree with her hair choice.

Also, for the "pro-black" men just because BW wear weaves does not mean that they are engaging in the ideal of Eurocentric beauty. That idea is a myth that most of you use to pit BW against one another to show that BW who wear their hair "naturally" are somewhat better and "pro-black" than BW who do not wear their hair in natural styles. This is a form of sexism, stop that shit.

And of course this does not eschew the history of the politics associated with hair for Black people, though Black women deal with the brunt of the oppression associated with this because of sexism and misogynoir and how Eurocentric beauty myths–which impacts beauty politics in general–impact women (or people who present somewhat "feminine”) more than men. (Trudy)
 
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

Weave and make up aren't a form of self depreciation. If anything it's self expression and also it's shit most of yall men like.
 
Brother_Five;8132881 said:
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

bro... black women come in myriad flavas...

Word I wrote this with a weave in my head... laaaawwwd..

 
When I was in undergrad at Spelman College, taking a sociology course, we had some black male students from Morehouse in the course. Can't remember what the topic was, but it was about rape, in a way. It caused me to be instantly amazed how many black men lack, or didn't understand a womans right to exist, and to control her mind and body.

I later learned that many black men view black women the same way white men viewed black women on slave plantations. The problem is black men are coddled in the black community, we place value more so on the life of black men than black women, due to the projection from the outside world. Many black women value the lives of the black men in their life, than their own or the women in their lives.

The more darker you are the less human you are too many. Your worth as a woman is largely judge and valued based on your approximate to non-blackness. This why a lot of these fuck boys are obsessed with non-black women. They lack the power to exalt a black woman, unless she mixed with the genes from another race. Because we view darkskin as masculine, and light skin as feminine.

Many love to deny it but its the truth. You get attacked for stating this stuff, even black men who state this stuff are often attacked but its the truth. We are the only race on the planet thats against our "root" mother. If you are of the black race, no matter what your mother looked like, or grandmother, the first woman you came from was a dark skin charcoal black woman. Yet, we place no value on woman who are such. We think our mother was Lena Horne.
 
Pico;8132891 said:
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

Weave and make up aren't a form of self depreciation. If anything it's self expression and also it's shit most of yall men like.

For some women weave and make up are forms of self depreciation also I wouldn't even say "most" men like that shit.

When you have some women who feel like the world will end if they have to go outside without their weave/wig or make up on something is seriously wrong.
 
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D. Morgan;8132924 said:
Pico;8132891 said:
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

Weave and make up aren't a form of self depreciation. If anything it's self expression and also it's shit most of yall men like.

For some women weave and make up are forms of self depreciation also I wouldn't even say "most" men like that shit.

When you have some women who feel like the world will end if they have to go outside without their weave/wig or make up on something is seriously wrong.

Some being the key word. That doesn't make it the rule.

The standard of beauty has always been swayed by the male view point so I would definitely say most men like that shit. Make up, weave, nails etc... All that shit wouldn't be expensive if no one was checking for it. Look at the women these men lust after.
 
D. Morgan;8132924 said:
Pico;8132891 said:
Rasta.;8132871 said:
Brother_Five;8132855 said:
I didn't read most of this, but I will say that I am shocked at the lack of support and understanding black women receive on many issues.

I agree with this shit but they need to do away with weaves, makeups and religion for me to take them serious (deep rooted self depreciation attached to the first 2 imo)

Weave and make up aren't a form of self depreciation. If anything it's self expression and also it's shit most of yall men like.

For some women weave and make up are forms of self depreciation also I wouldn't even say "most" men like that shit.

When you have some women who feel like the world will end if they have to go outside without their weave/wig or make up on something is seriously wrong.

Please refer to this:

And of course this does not eschew the history of the politics associated with hair for Black people, though Black women deal with the brunt of the oppression associated with this because of sexism and misogynoir and how Eurocentric beauty myths–which impacts beauty politics in general–impact women (or people who present somewhat "feminine”) more than men

Plus, natural hair has just became a phenomenon that has been accepted by "white America" and infiltrated by white women, who want to engage in BW spaces that they cannot remotely relate too because of BW being harassed by other BW, BM, WM, WW, and other Non-Black People of Color (NBPofC).

Many BW did not feel great with wearing their hair natural because of the oppression that she faces, like:

Job Loss

Discrimination

Strangers Petting in her hair

Being seen as unhygienic

Disgusting

Non-feminine

Unintelligent

and etc

Many black women are learning to love their hair and not allowing whiteness to dictate how they should wear their hair or face consequences.

Also, BM do go through hair discrimination, but not on a level that black women face daily.

 

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