Marriage: Is Marriage For White People?

[2stepz_ahead]

.. they want to be able to be a hoe yet looked at like a regular woman and be taken care of an not have their history devalue who they really are ..

Fam, let's not start that today.

A person's sexual history / liberation isn't what qualifies "who they really are." If that was the case, many of these niggas that are being expected to take care of femmes are no better than the "hoes" they may or may not end up with..

its not about sexual history as it is more about who you wanna lay down with outside of her wanting sex.

i have no problem with a highly sexual chick. i do have a problem with a chick fukkin cause a nigga got a nice car or to get a phone bill paid.

thats more about character traits than sexual history.

i think more dudes would respect a chick who says im trynna fukk than a chick that says i'll let you hit if you pay verizon this month.

 

[BEAM]

Ok, this sound like some "we are the world" type shit.

Even if, this is more idealistic than reality.

What does that even mean, fam? Funny how the "We Are the World" mantra gets clowned but the only thing that keeps us from it are indefensibly corrosive values and ideologies..

Our societies don't dictate what reality is, they limit it; Hence men tryna be statues their whole lives and never taking time to discover who they are or gain some kind of emotional maturity, and then wondering why their bodies / minds break down faster than women's..

 

[ohhhla]

I am sorry anyone who wants to be in a criminal contract without no benefits. Deserves to have their wealth taken from them.

 

[zombie]

.. Too many Men put themselves in a position to be valued only as an ATM. There has to be more to man then how deep his pockets go ..

This has always been the case.

Supposedly women don't "rely" on or "need" us anymore; But really all that means is that less women are looking to men for manual labor, financial support, etc, which is actually a good thing.. Men have always been raised / encouraged to be "providers," equating their worth to quite literally what they can do for their woman / family, task-wise.

We're people, not task-laborors, not robots, not ATMs, etc to be "depended on" in such a literal sense, but unfortunately that's what men have always taken pride in.. Being a checklist, or a machine.. Meanwhile emotion, introspection, free spiritedness, creativity, and even free time have been devalued by not only men, but the workforce, because niggas end up less like drones, and more like real people..

Efficiency is great, but at the end of the day "men" are still human beings with an enormous range of potential, personality, emotion, and thus can be enjoyed and not just valued..

What male feminist drivel. Men should want to take up responsibility and we should be valued by women for that not for our money, it's not the money she should love and respect it's the fact that we are willing to go get it. the bolded is not mutually exclusive with the taking up of our roles as men.

 

[Colin$mackabi$h]

Ok, this sound like some "we are the world" type shit.

Even if, this is more idealistic than reality.

What does that even mean, fam? Funny how the "We Are the World" mantra gets clowned but the only thing that keeps us from it are indefensibly corrosive values and ideologies..

Our societies don't dictate what reality is, they limit it; Hence men tryna be statues their whole lives and never taking times to discover who they are or gain some kind of emotional maturity, and then wondering why their bodies / minds break down faster than women's..

I agree with the bolded, but I disagree what I underlined.

Society is part of reality, If they can limit it then they "can do" the opposite. Yet we still see people doing the same routine.

 

[zombie]

Ok, this sound like some "we are the world" type shit.

Even if, this is more idealistic than reality.

What does that even mean, fam? Funny how the "We Are the World" mantra gets clowned but the only thing that keeps us from it are indefensibly corrosive values and ideologies..

Our societies don't dictate what reality is, they limit it; Hence men tryna be statues their whole lives and never taking time to discover who they are or gain some kind of emotional maturity, and then wondering why their bodies / minds break down faster than women's..

More feminist bullshit stereotyping of the role men traditionally played in western society the number one corrosive ideology that is destroying marriage and society today is feminism. and the stupid thing is women are actually less happy than they were 40 years ago

 

[BEAM]

What male feminist drivel. Men should want to take up responsibility and we should be valued by women for that not for our money, it's not the money she should love and respect it's the fact that we are will to go get it. the bolded is not mutually exclusive with the taking up of our roles as men.

There's nothing "feminist" about employing men to realize that they are in fact, human beings, and have access to an extremely vast spectrum of emotions, potential, realizations, etc.. All this stoic, robot bullshit has to stop. It's unrealistic and destructive..

And I never said that being a Go Getter is in any may mutually exclusive from all that I've encouraged here. But many women, and many men themselves, don't value niggas beyond the tasks they can complete. That's not healthy.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

So now society limits men lmaooooo

 

[BEAM]

More feminist bullshit stereotyping of the role men traditionally played in western society the number one corrosive ideology that is destroying marriage and society today is feminism. and the stupid thing is women are actually less happy than they were 40 years ago

It's hard to stereotype something that has always been quite limited / limiting. There really hasn't been much to the "role men traditionally played in Western society," what are you holding on to? You can still work hard, strive, and achieve.. But getting upset because women no longer look to you to be a machine devoid of basic human attributes is hustling backwards.

Sure, women may not value men in the same way, and haven't yet supplemented a new way to value them, but that's also in part because males have been indoctrinated into being emotional / personally underdeveloped drones.

 

[zombie]

What male feminist drivel. Men should want to take up responsibility and we should be valued by women for that not for our money, it's not the money she should love and respect it's the fact that we are will to go get it. the bolded is not mutually exclusive with the taking up of our roles as men.

There's nothing "feminist" about employing men to realize that they are in fact, human beings, and have access to an extremely vast spectrum of emotions, potential, realizations, etc.. All this stoic, robot bullshit has to stop. It's unrealistic and destructive..

And I never said that being a Go Getter is in any may mutually exclusive from all that I've encouraged here. But many women, and many men themselves, don't value niggas beyond the tasks they can complete. That's not healthy.

WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT always shown emotions it's a lie that men considered it wrong to show emotions.

In the past The weak over sensitive pussy who could not withstand the trails of life those were the men that no man wanted to be like AND no woman respected. No man or even women ever liked gold diggers or users that's common sense so there really is no need to point that out

 

[BEAM]

So now society limits men lmaooooo

Yo off top, are you man or a woman? Serious question, I can never tell..

And yes, while men may have always had more workplace trajectory / social liberty, we've also been expected to suppress many, many aspects of our potential to fit the definition of what "men" are to Western society.

I'm not understanding why this is so incomprehensible to supposedly grown, dynamic, thinking adults..

 

[zombie]

More feminist bullshit stereotyping of the role men traditionally played in western society the number one corrosive ideology that is destroying marriage and society today is feminism. and the stupid thing is women are actually less happy than they were 40 years ago

It's hard to stereotype something that has always been quite limited / limiting. There really hasn't been much to the "role men traditionally played in Western society," what are you holding on to? You can still work hard, strive, and achieve.. But getting upset because women no longer look to you to be a machine devoid of basic human attributes is hustling backwards.

Sure, women may not value men in the same way, and haven't yet supplemented a new way to value them, but that's also in part because males have been indoctrinated into being emotional / personally underdeveloped drones.

The underlined was never the truth and that is the feminist stereotype of the men of the past.

 

[BEAM]

WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT always shown emotions it's a lie that men considered it wrong to show emotions.

In the past The weak over sensitive pussy who could not withstand the trails of life those were the men that no man wanted to be like AND no woman respected.

The underlined was never the truth and that is the feminist stereotype of the men of the past.

Both can't be true, fam.

The fact that young boys are told not to cry is indicative of something very wrong with the society you've so desperate attempted to defend..

I understand that you've attempted to pigeonhole me into being whatever you think a "male feminist" is, but at this point you're arguing with me just to be arguing. Not only are you contradicting yourself, but it's also quite ironic how emotional you've gotten about supposedly weak men being emotional..

 

[zombie]

Today feminist indoctrination has created a "MAN" that is honor less, duty less, responsibility fleeing coward. A weak willed, un-masculine, borderline androgynous, sensitive like 80 year old teeth semi-man that is stuck in his adolescence. Basically we are producing more drakes and not enough tupacs.

The women fear responsiblity just as much if not more than the "men" hence the high as fuck abortion rate, More women are sluts LACKING respect for themselves they don't carry themselves like ladies and they are proud of it. In many respects they act just like the "men". That is why In 2014 a woman will actually start a physical fight with a man.

 

[Kwan Dai]

WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT always shown emotions it's a lie that men considered it wrong to show emotions.

In the past The weak over sensitive pussy who could not withstand the trails of life those were the men that no man wanted to be like AND no woman respected. No man or even women ever liked gold diggers or users that's common sense so there really is no need to point that out

The underlined was never the truth and that is the feminist stereotype of the men of the past.

Both can't be true, fam.

The fact that young boys are told not to cry is indicative of something very wrong with the society you've so desperate attempted to defend..

I understand that you've attempted to pigeonhole me into being whatever you think a "male feminist" is, but at this point you're arguing with me just to be arguing. Not only are you contradicting yourself, but it's also quite ironic how emotional you've gotten about supposedly weak men being emotional..

I disagree. I was just talking to my 13 year old Sun about this yesterday. It's nothing wrong with young boys being told not cry. There are other ways to display and deal with emotion. More importantly the question has to be asked, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU CRYING FOR? If, there is no logical answer such as extreme emotional distress, i.e. death, or extreme pain then crying isn't an acceptable response. Our boys need to be encouraged to think logically and then illicit the appropriate emotional or physical response.

 

[Shizlansky]

If you with someone long enough you don't have to sign papers.

You're married.

No difference.

 

[ohhhla]

If you with someone long enough you don't have to sign papers.

You're married.

No difference.

What kind of....?

 

[zombie]

WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THAT always shown emotions it's a lie that men considered it wrong to show emotions.

In the past The weak over sensitive pussy who could not withstand the trails of life those were the men that no man wanted to be like AND no woman respected.

The underlined was never the truth and that is the feminist stereotype of the men of the past.

Both can't be true, fam.

The fact that young boys are told not to cry is indicative of something very wrong with the society you've so desperate attempted to defend..

I understand that you've attempted to pigeonhole me into being whatever you think a "male feminist" is, but at this point you're arguing with me just to be arguing. Not only are you contradicting yourself, but it's also quite ironic how emotional you've gotten about supposedly weak men being emotional..

I am not contradicting myself i said the over sensitive men were not the ideal and that being like that was shunned. all things have levels

you just want to hold on to the lie that you have chosen for whatever reason that men never showed emotions, and that feminist values freed them from that and i am not being emotional i am just expressing the reality

 

[CracceR]

my grandparents and my parents divorced so it might not be for me

 

[zombie]

The concept of marrying down is fucking stupid.

marriage numbers are low all across the nation because marriage no longer has as much benefit for men as it used to

their is no social benefit to it. women no longer look up to men or respect manhood the way they used to and it works the other way around also.

they don't rely on us, they don't need us in 2014 some women are quick to say they don't need a man so then why the fuck should men go out of our way to marry you?? and because the laws are anti-male by marrying you we put ourselves at monetary risk. I will get married... have the ceremony and live with a woman as a husband but i won't ever sign any legal documents

To add on to this; the penalties of marriage outweighs most of positives and custody of kids defers to the mother 90% and thus child support. If you can't pay the child support then you may lose your freedom. So co-habitation in 2014 seems very appealing to most men.

That's not a penalty of marriage that's a consequence of divorce. Big difference. Also if you co habitats long enough common law marriage rules go into effect

Only in common law states