Malcolm X vs James Baldwin (debate from 1963)

[IceBergTaylor]

Lol at u niggas who are soooooo pro Malcolm but didn't know he took dick in the ass for money.

Fake ass Pro Black niggas

????

Name names nigga or foh

Manning Marable's book bout Malcolm isnt something niggas just heard about.

You know about as much as I do in terms of this speculation

 

[zzombie]

The Malcolm x had gay sex slander is totally unsubstantiated and is unworthy to be mentioned.

 

[zzombie]

Believe me, I'm not trying to throw shade on Malcolm X's legacy.

But he was a complex man and several people have both stated in interviews and wrote in books that he was a gigalo for money with men and women in his Malcolm Little years before prison...

You can't call out James Baldwin on this without also calling out Malcolm X on the same thing.

Why are you spreading these lies???

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Wasn't Baldwin a faggot? FOH! Malcolm by default. Baldwin should have fixed himself before attempting to speak on Black issues.

Umm... did you read Malcolm X's book?

Baldwin wasn't the only one who "dabbled" in gay activities (nh)...

The books I read about Malcolm X didn't mention anything about gay shit, so I don't know where you're getting your information from. I'm obviously going to need some form of proof. Anyone can spread or drop gay rumors about the next man.

And for debates sake, I know you're smart enough to comprehend the difference between a proud faggot glorying same sex lifestyle versus someone who participated in gay acts for money on the low before he was "enlightened", as you claim.

 

[CapitalB]

Dick Gregory gon beat the shit out u niggas

HM!!?

 

[whoseworldisthis]

Believe me, I'm not trying to throw shade on Malcolm X's legacy.

But he was a complex man and several people have both stated in interviews and wrote in books that he was a gigalo for money with men and women in his Malcolm Little years before prison...

You can't call out James Baldwin on this without also calling out Malcolm X on the same thing.

Why are you spreading these lies???[

Yeah, I just decided to make this stuff up. C'mon man, there is no benefit to me lying about this...

I've read almost every biography about Malcolm X and these rumors from his "Detroit Red"/ street hustling days keep coming up.

You can accept it or not... believe or not...

I didn't want to believe it either but it is what it is.

If James Baldwin didn't say he was a homosexual himself and instead it was just a rumor... would you deny that too?

The only reason I said anything about Malcolm X's sexuality is because a few people in here were so quick to dismiss the lifelong work of James Baldwin based on the fact dude was gay.

I just like historical accuracy even if it I don't agree with it.

 

[CapitalB]

and yeh.. i didnt read no gay shit about Brother Malcolm in his book.. i have heard shit heresay tho..

one part of the book before he met Betty kind of struck me odd.. he wasnt fuckin on no bitches and then really only married her kinda out of necessity if u ask me..

and outside of the times she got pregnant i seriously doubt they fucked. hahaha

but who gives a fuck?? is what he sayin resonating ..if so recieve the message..

 

[jono]

Manning Marable and several others have said Malcolm was involved with gay for pay activities...these cannot be substantiated and are irrelevant. Baldwin was openly homosexual and IIRC even had white boyfriends, him being gay is equally irrelevant.

 

[Black Boy King]

this thread needs to be burned

 

[whoseworldisthis]

and yeh.. i didnt read no gay shit about Brother Malcolm in his book.. i have heard shit heresay tho..

one part of the book before he met Betty kind of struck me odd.. he wasnt fuckin on no bitches and then really only married her kinda out of necessity if u ask me..

and outside of the times she got pregnant i seriously doubt they fucked. hahaha

but who gives a fuck?? is what he sayin resonating ..if so recieve the message..

this I can agree with, I wasn't trying to sidetrack the thread

scroll back through the posts and see who brought up James Baldwin's sexuality rather than his message

sometimes people like to stay slept...

 

[zzombie]

Believe me, I'm not trying to throw shade on Malcolm X's legacy.

But he was a complex man and several people have both stated in interviews and wrote in books that he was a gigalo for money with men and women in his Malcolm Little years before prison...

You can't call out James Baldwin on this without also calling out Malcolm X on the same thing.

Why are you spreading these lies???[

Yeah, I just decided to make this stuff up. C'mon man, there is no benefit to me lying about this...

I've read almost every biography about Malcolm X and these rumors from his "Detroit Red"/ street hustling days keep coming up.

You can accept it or not... believe or not...

I didn't want to believe it either but it is what it is.

If James Baldwin didn't say he was a homosexual himself and instead it was just a rumor... would you deny that too?

The only reason I said anything about Malcolm X's sexuality is because a few people in here were so quick to dismiss the lifelong work of James Baldwin based on the fact dude was gay.

I just like historical accuracy even if it I don't agree with it.

So in other words you are spreading lies/gossip just like a woman.

 

[whoseworldisthis]

Believe me, I'm not trying to throw shade on Malcolm X's legacy.

But he was a complex man and several people have both stated in interviews and wrote in books that he was a gigalo for money with men and women in his Malcolm Little years before prison...

You can't call out James Baldwin on this without also calling out Malcolm X on the same thing.

Why are you spreading these lies???[

Yeah, I just decided to make this stuff up. C'mon man, there is no benefit to me lying about this...

I've read almost every biography about Malcolm X and these rumors from his "Detroit Red"/ street hustling days keep coming up.

You can accept it or not... believe or not...

I didn't want to believe it either but it is what it is.

If James Baldwin didn't say he was a homosexual himself and instead it was just a rumor... would you deny that too?

The only reason I said anything about Malcolm X's sexuality is because a few people in here were so quick to dismiss the lifelong work of James Baldwin based on the fact dude was gay.

I just like historical accuracy even if it I don't agree with it.

So in other words you are spreading lies/gossip just like a woman.

Or I'm paraphrasing part of "Malcolm X: A Life of Reinvention" which won the 2012 Pulitzer Prize for History by this man:

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

The only people still slept are y'all thinking a black faggot can lead you anywhere, but in the same trap he's already been caught in. You already see in current times how this gay shit is being pushed on us and more importantly, our fucking children.

Where do you think your sick-minded savior would have stood on these issues?

He was nothing but a mole meant to throw us off course, and they still use this tactic to date. Y'all are the ones that need to wake up. Every brother ain't a brother.

 

[zzombie]

Believe me, I'm not trying to throw shade on Malcolm X's legacy.

But he was a complex man and several people have both stated in interviews and wrote in books that he was a gigalo for money with men and women in his Malcolm Little years before prison...

You can't call out James Baldwin on this without also calling out Malcolm X on the same thing.

Why are you spreading these lies???[

Yeah, I just decided to make this stuff up. C'mon man, there is no benefit to me lying about this...

I've read almost every biography about Malcolm X and these rumors from his "Detroit Red"/ street hustling days keep coming up.

You can accept it or not... believe or not...

I didn't want to believe it either but it is what it is.

If James Baldwin didn't say he was a homosexual himself and instead it was just a rumor... would you deny that too?

The only reason I said anything about Malcolm X's sexuality is because a few people in here were so quick to dismiss the lifelong work of James Baldwin based on the fact dude was gay.

I just like historical accuracy even if it I don't agree with it.

So in other words you are spreading lies/gossip just like a woman.

Or I'm paraphrasing part of "Malcolm X: A Life of Reinvention" which won the 2012 Pulitzer Prize for History by this man:

With all due respect fuck him and fuck you. I am not impressed by awards especially when they are given for some bullshit book that contains no concrete evidence and proves nothing.

 

[zzombie]

If Malcolm x had gay sex that shit would have been made well known and popularized while he was alive because white america and the government in general hated that nigga more than MLK and all the rest

 

[Swiffness!]

If Malcolm x had gay sex that shit would have been made well known and popularized while he was alive because white america and the government in general hated that nigga more than MLK and all the rest

the government clearly saw MLK Jr. as the bigger threat. When MLK had a communist in his inner circle there were White House meetings about it. J Edgar Hoover never mailed Malcolm X threatening blackmail letters demanding that he kill himself. If anything, a radical militant is the perfect boogeyman for an oppressor class.

 

[zzombie]

If Malcolm x had gay sex that shit would have been made well known and popularized while he was alive because white america and the government in general hated that nigga more than MLK and all the rest

the government clearly saw MLK Jr. as the bigger threat. When MLK had a communist in his inner circle there were White House meetings about it. J Edgar Hoover never mailed Malcolm X threatening blackmail letters demanding that he kill himself. If anything, a radical militant is the perfect boogeyman for an oppressor class.

Whatever nigga , they hated his ass and he was a public figure with a shady past most likely if anything as scandalous as gay sex was in his background the powers that be would have exposed it.

 

[kzzl]

Dick Gregory gon beat the shit out u niggas

That old man will snap and have you looking stupid if you don't know what you talking about. I always figured talk about X being gay was just some shit to slander his name, though.

 

[CapitalB]

Dick Gregory gon beat the shit out u niggas

That old man will snap and have you looking stupid if you don't know what you talking about. I always figured talk about X being gay was just some shit to slander his name, though.

HM!!?

 

[kzzl]

Dick Gregory gon beat the shit out u niggas

That old man will snap and have you looking stupid if you don't know what you talking about. I always figured talk about X being gay was just some shit to slander his name, though.

HM!!?

What does a HM stand for?