BREAKING: Trump Announces America's Withdrawal From The Paris Climate Agreement

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Even though America has pulled out of the deal, a lot of states like California are still moving forward as if we are a part of the deal.
 
SolemnSauce;c-9808185 said:
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Don't Care

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A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.
 
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High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

you are aware its still bad for your health
 
That's fine but it's not even attacking the main problem which is China and India who not only, not have to adhere to the accord, but are actually producing the majority of the worlds pollution.

The reality is these global companies want to subsidize manufacturing in poorer nations with slave labor under the guise of ending climate change (which is unsubstantiated but that's another issue), so they can line their pockets. And the worst part of it is these poorer nations aren't even going to truly reap the benefits.
 
High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

Source?

 
High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

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MRW I'm President of the United States and idgaf
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warren98;c-9809108 said:
High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

Source?

And with this Dude just outright disappears...this election, misinformation and just outright stupidity reigned. Obviously there are a number of people who arent misinformed and grotesquely and nonsensically stupid too though. Like here you cant just spew whatever and have everyone just go for it. Hence your question where did this come from? Even that is a dividing line. Those who have the sense to even think so far and ask these questions. Who will triumph going forward?
 
How the ice caps growing but polar bears environments shrinking. This world makes no sense.

Sure the planet heats up every so often, but does it kill the Coral reefs everytime it does that?
 
NoCompetition;c-9809151 said:
warren98;c-9809108 said:
High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

Source?

And with this Dude just outright disappears...this election, misinformation and just outright stupidity reigned. Obviously there are a number of people who arent misinformed and grotesquely and nonsensically stupid too though. Like here you cant just spew whatever and have everyone just go for it. Hence your question where did this come from? Even that is a dividing line. Those who have the sense to even think so far and ask these questions. Who will triumph going forward?

Nah, if I'm not mistaken, the brother is cool. Besides, it's only been like two hours. With that said, I generally agree with you.

All this is interesting to me, but I'm not too knowledgeable about it, so I'll have to do some research. In the meanwhile, I'm looking forward to hearing any respective discussion. Just wish you niggas would chill with all the unnecessary e-beef and get to the arguments at hand.

From what I've heard and read, there's legitimate arguments to be made on both sides. I think we can all agree that climate change is real, and that nature and nurture plays a role. The big question is to what extent does nurture play a role. And what the hell are we going to do with China and India. Are those not essential questions, regardless of Trump?

Beyond that, I would venture to suspect that behind all of these issues is politics, money, and greed. We can't be so naive as to think that this is all about saving the world.
 
warren98;c-9809108 said:
High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

Source?

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China and India ridiculous amounts of pollution is well documented. In China they estimate over 1.6 million deaths a year are caused by air pollution; In India 1.3 million. Yet know one is putting China and India's feet to the fire. They get to max out till 2030.

https://nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum

Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reached a new record high extent this year, covering more of the southern oceans than it has since scientists began a long-term satellite record to map sea ice extent in the late 1970s. The upward trend in the Antarctic, however, is only about a third of the magnitude of the rapid loss of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.

The new Antarctic sea ice record reflects the diversity and complexity of Earth’s environments, said NASA researchers. Claire Parkinson, a senior scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, has referred to changes in sea ice coverage as a microcosm of global climate change. Just as the temperatures in some regions of the planet are colder than average, even in our warming world, Antarctic sea ice has been increasing and bucking the overall trend of ice loss.

More later.

 
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High Revolutionary;c-9808966 said:
A few facts:

-China and India produces 75% of the worlds pollution yet they don't have to do anything for the next 13 years. In fact China has came out and said they're going to double their amount of coal plants.

-By funneling 3 trillion dollars of US taxpayers money into poorer nations to invest in green energy this is expected to reduce temperatures by 2/10's of 1 degree by 2100. 2/10's of 1 degree? That ain't shit.

-The polar icecaps have actually growing for the past 4 years.

-If you study data you'll see that temperatures have been rising and falling for over 650,000 years. In fact we're about due for another ice age.

If pollution equals CO2 emissions then that's a big ass lie.

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Let's say China remains constant at 30%, it would be illogical to assume that India accounts for 45% of the world's pollution in 2017 despite only accounting for 7% in 2014.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data
 

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