Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time

[aneed123]

aneed your view on music is also terrible.

it be like dat sometimes

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I got clowned into bolivia a while ago for saying I liked breathe stretch shake

That shit was fire, and you know what.... (not talking to you Cash, in general speaking terms)

If people didnt like Ma$e before fine.

If people liked Ma$e before fine.

But dont flip flop now.

I agree. Niggas on here flip more than Comey

 

[KillaCham]

It's def more surprising that Mase responded than it is surprising that he got bars.

 

[Turfaholic]

Niggas acting like Ma$e aint drop a album that can be put into GOAT album conversation.

It's like y'all don't remember who he was b4 he became a pastor.

 

[Matike85]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

You reaching with this. Jay dropped before Ma$e and Ma$e had a different flow when he was with C.O.C. Jay had a laid back flow before Ma$e started flowing like he did o Harlem World. In My Life Time (song) came out in 95' which would be the base of Jay's style going forward. Never heard no one compare Jay and Ma$e in my life. You mean Fab bit his flow.

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

Jay Z vs Mase in 97 was real...

Jay Z in my lifetime vol 1 came out fall of 1997 a week after Mase Harlem World album came out.. had Jay Z biting Mase shining suit style Jay Z looking like Joe the Camel in this Sunshine video..

 

[VulcanRaven]

This shit ain't about Jay. Let's keep this on Cam and Ma$e. People always bring Jay up some how but be complaining when the Reason is mostly about him. Yall like reverse dick riders man. The Reason never changes. One reason I never come in here much. Anyway. Ma$e bodied Cam. Good to hear lyrics take the lead instead of popularity.

 

[Fosheezy]

Damn a lot done changed since horse and carriage!

 

[Matike85]

This shit ain't about Jay. Let's keep this on Cam and Ma$e. People always bring Jay up some how but be complaining when the Reason is mostly about him. Yall like reverse dick riders man. The Reason never changes. One reason I never come in here much. Anyway. Ma$e bodied Cam. Good to hear lyrics take the lead instead of popularity.

Jay Z subliminal diss Mase on Imaginary Player...Facts ... Jay Z Stans cannot handle the truth

 

[sully]

I think Ma$e dropped a track like a year ahalf ago and everyone om here was like”sounds like Murda Ma$e is back”, and he didnt make noise again until this past weekend. I mean I think hardcore fans always knew what Ma$e was capable of non commercial wise.

Found it

he also ripped this


(just realized this was released 8-9 years ago)

 

[water ur seeds]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

No excuse. In my 20's too.

Researched all that was before me when limewire came out.

That's like not knowing about bob marley because you weren't born in the 60's

Well said, I just hit 30 (was like 10-11 when pac and b.i.g died) but still listen to classics from Main Source, Mac Dre, Pete Rock and CL Smooth and Run DMC for example, if you like hip hop you research and listen to the classics... Like sports and the history of your team...

I ENVY the people that have to opportunity to listen to certain classics FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! I would love to have that feeling again, of hearing some album that blows youre mind for the very first time!!!

Like hearing BIG, Pac and Doggystyle for the first time

 

[Busta Carmichael]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

No excuse. In my 20's too.

Researched all that was before me when limewire came out.

That's like not knowing about bob marley because you weren't born in the 60's

Well said, I just hit 30 (was like 10-11 when pac and b.i.g died) but still listen to classics from Main Source, Mac Dre, Pete Rock and CL Smooth and Run DMC for example, if you like hip hop you research and listen to the classics... Like sports and the history of your team...

I ENVY the people that have to opportunity to listen to certain classics FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! I would love to have that feeling again, of hearing some album that blows youre mind for the very first time!!!

Like hearing BIG, Pac and Doggystyle for the first time

Maaan ain't nothing like hearing Dre's production discography again. SOC, Chronic, eazy duz it... and most importantly....2001

That album started like a movie with the THX sound. I had goosebumps as a kid when I first heard it. We were broke af so only one dude we know had the album. And one week we got to borrow it lmao.

 

[water ur seeds]

I dont think Ma$e really changed his flow, from C.O.C to BadBoy to G Unit just changed the subject matter (when he got to BadBoy), people forget he even dropped a 'Harlem World' group album with So So Def... But even when he dropped 'Double Up' I thought that was alot more grimy then 'Harlem World' and abit closer to the Murda Mase...

'Harlem World' and 'Double Up' used to get rinsed though when I was in school, they are hip hop classics to me (and get my nostalgic haha) when he came back with 50 and said 'I dont know why Loon and Fabby wont, just say Im the daddy' I cracked up and though he was back, I had high hopes for 50 and Mase as a team...


I put Mase down as the father of the ALOT of MC's style, even 50 especially after he shot: 'From the last shootout I got a dimple on my face/It’s nothing, I can go after Mase’s fan base'

 

[water ur seeds]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

No excuse. In my 20's too.

Researched all that was before me when limewire came out.

That's like not knowing about bob marley because you weren't born in the 60's

Well said, I just hit 30 (was like 10-11 when pac and b.i.g died) but still listen to classics from Main Source, Mac Dre, Pete Rock and CL Smooth and Run DMC for example, if you like hip hop you research and listen to the classics... Like sports and the history of your team...

I ENVY the people that have to opportunity to listen to certain classics FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! I would love to have that feeling again, of hearing some album that blows youre mind for the very first time!!!

Like hearing BIG, Pac and Doggystyle for the first time

Maaan ain't nothing like hearing Dre's production discography again. SOC, Chronic, eazy duz it... and most importantly....2001

That album started like a movie with the THX sound. I had goosebumps as a kid when I first heard it. We were broke af so only one dude we know had the album. And one week we got to borrow it lmao.

One of the best feelings ever is getting goosebumps to music, its like getting high haha especially when you with a friend and youre both like 'oooooh schitt, you hear that?!?!' and you both vibing off an album/tune on the same wavelength, kinda like when you kicking knowledge or someones kicking knowledge to you and you get it... I guess its the same thing fans of all musical genres get... apart from pop music fans...

 

[water ur seeds]

Yo Cam's gone from getting praised for having dope mixtape like a week or so ago, mad people were like 'Cam is back' to having the internet going in on how Mase either'd etc haha cold game...

 

[Max.]

Cams sounded like it was recorded in hell rells closet apartment

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

I've never listened to a Mase album before...tonight might be the night

harlem world is nice. double up was mediocre but same niggas was my shit

Man i remember i let one of my boys borrow Harlem World tape and he must have kept that shit in his pocket he wore the words off my tape.. That was my shit.. never heard double up

what yall know about

Got the soundtrack for Christmas the year it came out lol/smdh

 

[MR.CJ]

I heard cam doesn't even have a sister

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Yo Cam's gone from getting praised for having dope mixtape like a week or so ago, mad people were like 'Cam is back' to having the internet going in on how Mase either'd etc haha cold game...

He's gonna come back. But he has to hit hard.

Remember the week meek revealed that Drake didn't write his rhymes? Everyone was going in on drake and said he was done.

Then the week charged up and back to back dropped it was like everyone had amnesia

 

[water ur seeds]

Yo Cam's gone from getting praised for having dope mixtape like a week or so ago, mad people were like 'Cam is back' to having the internet going in on how Mase either'd etc haha cold game...

He's gonna come back. But he has to hit hard.

Remember the week meek revealed that Drake didn't write his rhymes? Everyone was going in on drake and said he was done.

Then the week charged up and back to back dropped it was like everyone had amnesia

Im not sure what Cam can do though, everyone pretty much knows Mase's weak points, so theres no shock value... And I dont think he ever had ghost writers, I think him, L, Cam, Herb and Bloodshed all used to write together... And tbh Mase could go bar for with L and the best of them... Mase prolly ghost wrote for mad artists in the 90s tbh...

 

[Busta Carmichael]

Yo Cam's gone from getting praised for having dope mixtape like a week or so ago, mad people were like 'Cam is back' to having the internet going in on how Mase either'd etc haha cold game...

He's gonna come back. But he has to hit hard.

Remember the week meek revealed that Drake didn't write his rhymes? Everyone was going in on drake and said he was done.

Then the week charged up and back to back dropped it was like everyone had amnesia

Im not sure what Cam can do though, everyone pretty much knows Mase's weak points, so theres no shock value... And I dont think he ever had ghost writers, I think him, L, Cam, Herb and Bloodshed all used to write together... And tbh Mase could go bar for with L and the best of them... Mase prolly ghost wrote for mad artists in the 90s tbh...

Only way I see it working is if he involves and disses puff in a curtis type diss/video skit against the two.

Which would also mean career suicide so you're right. He can't do shit.