Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time

[Busta Carmichael]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

a lot of folk on here are young.. like in they 20s... they were babies in 97. also folk are sheep in regards to popularity... they hear mase and automatically think shiny suit soft gay etc... while never hearing his mixtapes children of the corn or full albums. He is all those Harlem mcs father. along with kanye and fab. Jay also bit that mans flo.anyway for me it was refreshing to see him show he still got it.

No excuse. In my 20's too.

Researched all that was before me when limewire came out.

That's like not knowing about bob marley because you weren't born in the 60's

u the minority homie also add in regionism...mase was hot when i was in 11th and 12 grade. if u was born in the 90s u were playing with toys when he was murda mase. u didnt address the popularity sheep part of my post

I admit my earliest memory of mase on tv was mo money mo problems and been around the world. Older siblings were bad boy stans.

And yes people are sheep. It's the same way how everybody started fucking with drake after he killed meek.

Before that everybody including women were sonning him. Remember "drake is the type of nigga" and so and so.

After that he was the MVP and everybody was on drakes nuts and meek was a punching bag

 

[pachá12]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

This is dumb Mase left the game and became a pastor that’s why he didn’t respond, when he came back it was supposed to be all positive and no one cared and that was what 12-13 years ago? Since then I bet you couldn’t name one track or feature or anything Mase has done because no one cared, now this track drops and you act like he never left foh

To be fair, Ma$e was back to rapping in the mid 2000's and DipSet was still at his head.Then he gets with G-Unit which was the home of rap beef. Jumped on a diss track about Game, why not Cam? I was never bothered by Ma$e not responding, but he had plenty of opportunities to get at them.

 

[its....JOHN B]

Old washed up rappers trying to make a comeback need to take notes, look at Ma$e he hasn’t been relevant since 1998 then with one etherous diss track they act like the past 19 years didn’t happen and all of the sudden he’s top 5

 

[playmaker88]

I've never listened to a Mase album before...tonight might be the night

harlem world is nice. double up was mediocre but same niggas was my shit

Man i remember i let one of my boys borrow Harlem World tape and he must have kept that shit in his pocket he wore the words off my tape.. That was my shit.. never heard double up

what yall know about

 

[its....JOHN B]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

This is dumb Mase left the game and became a pastor that’s why he didn’t respond, when he came back it was supposed to be all positive and no one cared and that was what 12-13 years ago? Since then I bet you couldn’t name one track or feature or anything Mase has done because no one cared, now this track drops and you act like he never left foh

To be fair, Ma$e was back to rapping in the mid 2000's and DipSet was still at his head.Then he gets with G-Unit which was the home of rap beef. Jumped on a diss track about Game, why not Cam? I was never bothered by Ma$e not responding, but he had plenty of opportunities to get at them.

Yea I remember


And not one person cared

 

[gemini86]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

Bruh, how you even comfortable speculating so much on what grown ass men felt and thought for over 20+ years?

My nigga... you’re on a website where all we do is talk about rappers daily in the reason. You trying too hard to look cool. FOH. This is HipHop.

 

[AZTG]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

Bruh, how you even comfortable speculating so much on what grown ass men felt and thought for over 20+ years?

My nigga... you’re on a website where all we do is talk about rappers daily in the reason. You trying too hard to look cool. FOH. This is HipHop.

Shut the fuck up b. You stay with the same copy and paste response. Time to change youre tired ass style up.

 

[gemini86]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

Bruh, how you even comfortable speculating so much on what grown ass men felt and thought for over 20+ years?

My nigga... you’re on a website where all we do is talk about rappers daily in the reason. You trying too hard to look cool. FOH. This is HipHop.

Shut the fuck up b. You stay with the same copy and paste response. Time to change youre tired ass style up.

Who the hell are you? If it looks like I’m saying the same shit then at least I’m consistent and I mean wtf I say. A lot of you don’t even know wtf is going on and always have something to say. You call yourself trying to play niggas but you just end up looking dumb in the long run. You need to hop off dick right now. Either join the conversation or shut the fuck up. You could learn something. Learn to respect other people’s opinions as well you clown. All u need is the face paint nigga I swear and u would be a certified clown

 

[Roster Player #99]

aneed your view on music is also terrible.

 

[pachá12]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

This is dumb Mase left the game and became a pastor that’s why he didn’t respond, when he came back it was supposed to be all positive and no one cared and that was what 12-13 years ago? Since then I bet you couldn’t name one track or feature or anything Mase has done because no one cared, now this track drops and you act like he never left foh

To be fair, Ma$e was back to rapping in the mid 2000's and DipSet was still at his head.Then he gets with G-Unit which was the home of rap beef. Jumped on a diss track about Game, why not Cam? I was never bothered by Ma$e not responding, but he had plenty of opportunities to get at them.

Yea I remember


And not one person cared

That was a year before he got with G Unit tho

Edit: For the sake of facts, this album went Gold.

 

[sapp08_2001]

So is this cam's 1st legitimate loss on wax ??

Funeral music was better than curtissss. Cam is just such a likeable guy that no one wants to admit it

Amen. That track had "Cam" ass on vacation lol

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I fucked with Welcome Back.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

"Curtisssssssss rewind Dj Curtissssss"

"How's the king of NY rocking sandals with jeans?

Open toe sandals with chancletas with jeans on

How's the king of New York rocking sandals with jeans and he 42 years old?"

"Take your daughter, R Kelly, have my way with her face! And your mom’s a whip wop head

And you claim to be a hip-hop head? Ooh wop, two shots in his hip-hop head

This way the whole world know that hip-hop’s dead!"

I notice all killas diss track at Niggas had something stick out about them this one I ain't get that Besides "only sister I fucked was yours" which was meh

 

[natural born sinners]

I fucked with Welcome Back.

First time I heard "breathe, stretch, shake" I was in a club grinding on some chick. Needless to say, I fucked w it in the club n downloaded that shit when I got home. The song reminded me of a good ass night. Mase was my favorite rapper at one point, but so was puff. I was heavy into that whole bad boy movement.

 

[AZTG]

Hell Rell getting knocked out

Juelz teeth knocked out

Camron getting bodied by a nigga who was dancing in Brandy's video

You know what's fucked up ? Karma caught up to Cam....

Fast forward to last 2 years, Dipset break up & Jim goes on Hot 97 & airs out all the bullshit. Jim comes out looking like the most loyal. The dips finally make amends & we get a crackhead washed version of Juelz, Cam gets sonned.

Jay-Z told us about this shit a decade ago..... The video at the Ruckers, 50 Cent ethering dude/hot summer, Dipset members talking about Cam being shoddy, & now this. The problem is that Cam is an idiot he played himself & squandered not just his but his whole squad's comeback.

Mase choosing not to clap back all those years ago means he looked down on Cam & never took him serious to begin with. He was prolly happy to see another Harlem brother come up & win. Then finally was like "fuck it". We laughed at Mase all these years only to watch him get the last laugh. My God he played the fuck outta Cam even with the tweets.

Bruh, how you even comfortable speculating so much on what grown ass men felt and thought for over 20+ years?

My nigga... you’re on a website where all we do is talk about rappers daily in the reason. You trying too hard to look cool. FOH. This is HipHop.

Shut the fuck up b. You stay with the same copy and paste response. Time to change youre tired ass style up.

Who the hell are you? If it looks like I’m saying the same shit then at least I’m consistent and I mean wtf I say. A lot of you don’t even know wtf is going on and always have something to say. You call yourself trying to play niggas but you just end up looking dumb in the long run. You need to hop off dick right now. Either join the conversation or shut the fuck up. You could learn something. Learn to respect other people’s opinions as well you clown. All u need is the face paint nigga I swear and u would be a certified clown

Aight bro, you consistently a bitch. We cool though.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I'll say it again.. Mase been nice... Where the hell you niggaz been? Cams diss wasn't wack. If you really listen he was spitting.. It's just the beat and the mix isn't up to the standard we are used to from Cam.. The surprise about how nice mase is has me baffled.. Similar to those that are surprised that Jay Z wrote still Dre. How you call your self a hip hop head and don't know these facts?

I'm gonna keep it 100 since now everyone is allegedly (have always been) Mase fans apparently. I always respected his flow and held it in high regard (you can dig up the thread where I did) but I never followed Mase like that. I just never saw Mase as a battle rapper not saying he wasn't a lyricist but when you think of lyricists Mase ain't one that immediately comes to mind.

In fact I never even took him seriously. When he signed to G-UNIT that was the only time I cared for Mase. When take em to church came out I was co-signing Cam and the Dips and so were a lot of niggas in this thread.

So you never heard of Murda Ma$e?

 

[TonyDubbz]

I fucked wit 90s Ma$e but not cause of Children of the Corn, cause of his badboy shit. I didnt find out about him and Cam having joints together as Children of the Corn until I joined the IC, so niggas on here actually put me up on that shit.

Hell, I put Breathe, Stretch, Shake on my Harlem mix for the DJ contest we had in here and niggas laughed at me for that shit.. member that shit @Stew ? now look at em.. Ma$e fans again.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I think Ma$e dropped a track like a year ahalf ago and everyone om here was like”sounds like Murda Ma$e is back”, and he didnt make noise again until this past weekend. I mean I think hardcore fans always knew what Ma$e was capable of non commercial wise.

Found it

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I got clowned into bolivia a while ago for saying I liked breathe stretch shake

 

[DOPEdweebz]

I got clowned into bolivia a while ago for saying I liked breathe stretch shake

That shit was fire, and you know what.... (not talking to you Cash, in general speaking terms)

If people didnt like Ma$e before fine.

If people liked Ma$e before fine.

But dont flip flop now.