Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo and Youth Official Album Discussion 1/20/15

[silverfoxx]

On Madonna when he says

"Lawyer say I'll be be alright

But I think that he's lying to me"

Is that Judas?

I literally thought nothing of this line I just took it for face value. But now that you mention it I can totally see it being a judas reference. The song itself is like a parallel btw the troubles of a black male youth & jesus "white T(ee) on his shoulders, what drags him off through those streets" that line always stands out to me like the whole scene of jesus dragging the cross and cops dragging a black kid by his white tee. Man this track is flames I cant wait to see him perform this

I remember a thread a while back when Madonna was released as a single and a lot of people thought it was wack.

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Guess it's safe to say this album continues the MYH saga.

 

[Lincoln]

Yo I was an art major. We were taught to anaylze works, looking for things intentionally put there by artists, and things that the artist may not have intended but arose as a result anyway. I apply this sort of analysis in all aspects of my life, and did it for the track "Mural." I'll leave it up to you to decide if it's Lupe's intent, or if it's just applying meaning after the fact. I don't know if anyone spoke on this already because I do believe some of the stuff people are coming up with about this album is b.s., but it is definitely clear this album is more than something to take at face value. Anyway,

There exists a style of painting known as Abstract Expressionism. It does not attempt to create the illusion of space; it does not have subject matter, nor theme; the content is paint. In Abstract Expressionism, the artist does not try to paint a picture (this is what cameras are for). Rather, he or she wants to stay true to the nature of the paint, not trying to bend the medium. It is literally going with the flow.

Jackson Pollock created a large scale painting titled "Mural" (1943). As with most of his work, the piece was done in the style of Abstract Expressionism. Given Lupe Fiasco's love of art, and that the cover of this album is a painting of his done in the style of Abstract Expressionism, I don't believe it to be much of a reach to say that Lupe is vocally emulating the style of Jackson Pollock. Obviously not in the purest sense, which would require him to be off-beat, random, and speaking in syllables that don't relate to each other. Rather, Lupe could be using the desire of Abstract Expressionists to create something free. Like Pollock's "Mural," Lupe's is a break from the traditional structure. Pollock's was a grandiose piece representing a break from representational painting that had dominated the western art world for thousands of years. Lupe's mural represents a break from the fiercely traditional structure of 16 bar verses with choruses in between that hip-hop is known for. Like Pollock's painting, it is grandiose in size, it is nearly 9 minutes in length, unlike the 3-5 minute average of most rap songs. Some describe Pollock's manner of painting as violent, because instead of carefully applying paint to the canvas as most painters have done, he flung it, threw it, and whipped it from his paintbrush. The style was unapologetic, as is Lupe's style on "Mural," in which he relentlessly throws hundreds (I haven't exactly counted) of bars at you. Through vastness, style, and repudation from all conventional methods of the past, "Mural" is as overwhelming as "Mural." That's how Lupe introduces you to this album.

I THINK.

 

[DNB1]

Taking in some Lupe education whilst doing the ironing....

Real Nigga shit. B-)

 

[silverfoxx]

Album is so fucking dope. Way better then expected.

Now Lupe is dope as shit and the album is metaphor galore, I'm sure the album tells a story, and there is more then likely more then one story, but some of you motherfuckers is crazy.

Its just that words when put together can mean multiple things, especially if you search for meanings, everyone will find a different meaning. But I doubt Lupe meant all those meanings. Lupe being such a dope artist most likely had a lose meaning with the album and wrote it in a way where everyone can find different meanings from. Sprinkle a lil symbology here a lil symbology there and let people go crazy.

I'm not saying this to discredit Lupe. Nah. He is definitely one of the best artists of this generation, and to write in a way where everyone can find a different meaning takes real talent.

I'm writing this to say some of yall mafuckas is crazy that's all. And I ain't check no other forum for meanings of the album I just saw what some of y'all posted from other sites.

Guess it's safe to say this album continues the MYH saga.

Hmmmm

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Wait, why dont white people opinions matter in hip hop? I know alot of white people that are very creditable when it comes to hip hop and has gotten me into plenty of underground artist that im still a fan of. not every white person is only into lil wayne and drake

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

perfect time for the cool 2, he's independent now

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

perfect time for the cool 2, he's independent now

This album is essentially The Cool 2, as I posted above.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

I didnt hear a Gotta Eat part II so nah!

 

[AP21]

I didnt hear a Gotta Eat part II so nah!

damn, he made a Gotta Eat 2? what album? I need to hear that

 

[daboyag1]

i know every verse on Chopper by heart now lol

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

I didnt hear a Gotta Eat part II so nah!

damn, he made a Gotta Eat 2? what album? I need to hear that

No I wish but I was joking.

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

Speaking of sequels, yall ever heard the american terrorist 2 and 3

 

[IceBergTaylor]

They both are dope

 

[silverfoxx]

i know every verse on Chopper by heart now lol

How is that possible? Have of them niggas I can't understand what they are saying Lol.cool song tho

 

[BDBIID]

i know every verse on Chopper by heart now lol

Trouble has my favorite verse on that joint at the moment.

 

[just.might.b.ok]

No skips

Gotta listen more to Joey's album.

 

[rip.dilla]

'Chopper' my #1 HipHop joint of the year so far (2015)

Shit knocks for a 9 minute song

 

[rip.dilla]

Yo I was an art major. We were taught to anaylze works, looking for things intentionally put there by artists, and things that the artist may not have intended but arose as a result anyway. I apply this sort of analysis in all aspects of my life, and did it for the track "Mural." I'll leave it up to you to decide if it's Lupe's intent, or if it's just applying meaning after the fact. I don't know if anyone spoke on this already because I do believe some of the stuff people are coming up with about this album is b.s., but it is definitely clear this album is more than something to take at face value. Anyway,

There exists a style of painting known as Abstract Expressionism. It does not attempt to create the illusion of space; it does not have subject matter, nor theme; the content is paint. In Abstract Expressionism, the artist does not try to paint a picture (this is what cameras are for). Rather, he or she wants to stay true to the nature of the paint, not trying to bend the medium. It is literally going with the flow.

Jackson Pollock created a large scale painting titled "Mural" (1943). As with most of his work, the piece was done in the style of Abstract Expressionism. Given Lupe Fiasco's love of art, and that the cover of this album is a painting of his done in the style of Abstract Expressionism, I don't believe it to be much of a reach to say that Lupe is vocally emulating the style of Jackson Pollock. Obviously not in the purest sense, which would require him to be off-beat, random, and speaking in syllables that don't relate to each other. Rather, Lupe could be using the desire of Abstract Expressionists to create something free. Like Pollock's "Mural," Lupe's is a break from the traditional structure. Pollock's was a grandiose piece representing a break from representational painting that had dominated the western art world for thousands of years. Lupe's mural represents a break from the fiercely traditional structure of 16 bar verses with choruses in between that hip-hop is known for. Like Pollock's painting, it is grandiose in size, it is nearly 9 minutes in length, unlike the 3-5 minute average of most rap songs. Some describe Pollock's manner of painting as violent, because instead of carefully applying paint to the canvas as most painters have done, he flung it, threw it, and whipped it from his paintbrush. The style was unapologetic, as is Lupe's style on "Mural," in which he relentlessly throws hundreds (I haven't exactly counted) of bars at you. Through vastness, style, and repudation from all conventional methods of the past, "Mural" is as overwhelming as "Mural." That's how Lupe introduces you to this album.

I THINK.

Bruh

This post was excellent and timely 'cos I was listening to the album this morning in the gym and came across this line on 'Mural'.. .

I sit back and watch the world through the eye holes in my oil paintings ..

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Tbh I haven't really liked an album this much since pusha t shit.