Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo and Youth Official Album Discussion 1/20/15

[Arya Tsaddiq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usgRIDnyGkk&spfreload=10

4m15s = Pizza man don't come here no more.

lol

this was one of those movies we watched on repeat as kids. I immediately knew where that hook came from when I heard the song.

 

[CJ]

Nigga...idk if I've ever played a 9 min song so many times like chopper

 

[*~queenbee~*]

This album is not that complex.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

This album is not that complex.

What's the album about?

 

[Listencloser]

7/10? Fuck out of here

 

[playmaker88]

Looks like one of those cacs that say

"Lupe is soooooooooooo gooood"

 

[BDBIID]

Not one song that's meh on this joint to me.

Fire front to back.

Early favs Chopper, Dots and Lines, Prisoner, TRON (Soulo!)

 

[CHICAGO_BREED]

IMO people are reading into it to much...it's just a collection of songs with four pieces of music that Lupe associates with the four seasons.

there's clearly themes to the content ... and this is the same nigga that made an album which personified the environment of the "Streets" and characteristics of the "Game" into supernatural comic figures ... so while some of the theories people are bringing forward may be a bit "ambitious" to say the least ... i dont think anything should be considered far fetched especially when dealing with an artist that is as prone to use abstract metaphors such as Lupe

I agree, but he trolls occasionally, maybe the interntion is to convey diffrent opinons based on his "art" (the artwork itself is implying what the album is). I think a year from now i will look at it diffrently, and many perspectives will be given as well. Overall i think the overall theme from this album is abstract, what we should focus on first if their was some kind of "theme" is breaking down each song bar from bar. Then put everything together. Honestly i think Lupe just wanted to be a rapping ass nigga and deliver messages but in a coded a way for each song, i dont think he is super clever enough to put together a super profound masterpiece of a story together that will take forever to decipher. Im really starting to think we are all siking ourselves out, but hey maybe im wrong and dude is a complete genius. Its just based on the story he told about the process of making the album, the whole deeper meaning thing seems far fetched.

i dont know what you mean by "deeper meaning" tho ... i mean there's certainly metaphors here ..so i dont think you can doubt that if thats what you mean by deeper meanings.. i mean he said as much in regards to the prisoner 1 and 2 track being a representation of his label situation as well as a representation in the literal sense of his mans being put in jail ...or if you look at deliver being conceptual piece about the literal lack of "peace" in urban environments and its effects on a community..lol so i dont think you have to sike yourself out necessarily for anything as the depth is certainly there ..now to what degree your going to extrapolate his words out to could definitely vary depending upon your enthusiasm for him as an artist...lol

but i agree with you in the sense that this album is a representation of Lupe wanting to let people decide what some of these concepts ultimately mean .. to them...on a grand scale that is... i think thats why he hasn't came out and gave a plain and simple narration to whats happening with every song... but i think art kind of loses its mystic when artist have to do that .. kind of like why Christopher Nolan didn't show if the spinning top fell or not at the end of Inception... i think as an artist you want people to engage with your art and really think critically about it and find layers of meanings especially in this particular art form that is creative writing

but with all that said ..if you want to just enjoy this record on the superficial level ..you certainly can .. i mean the lyricism in the wordplay ..the conscientious content .. the elaborate production don't need too much heavy analyzing to enjoying strictly on a face value level .. and thats the beauty of it .. if you want the dense shit its there ..but if you don't there's still a sonically pleasing album here for you

To this GOTDAMN day I'm still fucked up about that inception shit. I mean me and my girl almost came to blows, being on first 48 talking about that shit. I still believe he was stuck she say he got out.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

IMO people are reading into it to much...it's just a collection of songs with four pieces of music that Lupe associates with the four seasons.

there's clearly themes to the content ... and this is the same nigga that made an album which personified the environment of the "Streets" and characteristics of the "Game" into supernatural comic figures ... so while some of the theories people are bringing forward may be a bit "ambitious" to say the least ... i dont think anything should be considered far fetched especially when dealing with an artist that is as prone to use abstract metaphors such as Lupe

I agree, but he trolls occasionally, maybe the interntion is to convey diffrent opinons based on his "art" (the artwork itself is implying what the album is). I think a year from now i will look at it diffrently, and many perspectives will be given as well. Overall i think the overall theme from this album is abstract, what we should focus on first if their was some kind of "theme" is breaking down each song bar from bar. Then put everything together. Honestly i think Lupe just wanted to be a rapping ass nigga and deliver messages but in a coded a way for each song, i dont think he is super clever enough to put together a super profound masterpiece of a story together that will take forever to decipher. Im really starting to think we are all siking ourselves out, but hey maybe im wrong and dude is a complete genius. Its just based on the story he told about the process of making the album, the whole deeper meaning thing seems far fetched.

i dont know what you mean by "deeper meaning" tho ... i mean there's certainly metaphors here ..so i dont think you can doubt that if thats what you mean by deeper meanings.. i mean he said as much in regards to the prisoner 1 and 2 track being a representation of his label situation as well as a representation in the literal sense of his mans being put in jail ...or if you look at deliver being conceptual piece about the literal lack of "peace" in urban environments and its effects on a community..lol so i dont think you have to sike yourself out necessarily for anything as the depth is certainly there ..now to what degree your going to extrapolate his words out to could definitely vary depending upon your enthusiasm for him as an artist...lol

but i agree with you in the sense that this album is a representation of Lupe wanting to let people decide what some of these concepts ultimately mean .. to them...on a grand scale that is... i think thats why he hasn't came out and gave a plain and simple narration to whats happening with every song... but i think art kind of loses its mystic when artist have to do that .. kind of like why Christopher Nolan didn't show if the spinning top fell or not at the end of Inception... i think as an artist you want people to engage with your art and really think critically about it and find layers of meanings especially in this particular art form that is creative writing

but with all that said ..if you want to just enjoy this record on the superficial level ..you certainly can .. i mean the lyricism in the wordplay ..the conscientious content .. the elaborate production don't need too much heavy analyzing to enjoying strictly on a face value level .. and thats the beauty of it .. if you want the dense shit its there ..but if you don't there's still a sonically pleasing album here for you

To this GOTDAMN day I'm still fucked up about that inception shit. I mean me and my girl almost came to blows, being on first 48 talking about that shit. I still believe he was stuck she say he got out.

Now that's some powerful ass art right there.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

I love my jazz. I rewound that Terrace Martin outro at least 20 times.

Idk yall, this album is up there. Where you put it between F&L and The Cool is personal preference but in my opinion Lupe has 3 definite great albums.

Im trying not to outplay this joint.

 

[Listencloser]

IMO people are reading into it to much...it's just a collection of songs with four pieces of music that Lupe associates with the four seasons.

there's clearly themes to the content ... and this is the same nigga that made an album which personified the environment of the "Streets" and characteristics of the "Game" into supernatural comic figures ... so while some of the theories people are bringing forward may be a bit "ambitious" to say the least ... i dont think anything should be considered far fetched especially when dealing with an artist that is as prone to use abstract metaphors such as Lupe

I agree, but he trolls occasionally, maybe the interntion is to convey diffrent opinons based on his "art" (the artwork itself is implying what the album is). I think a year from now i will look at it diffrently, and many perspectives will be given as well. Overall i think the overall theme from this album is abstract, what we should focus on first if their was some kind of "theme" is breaking down each song bar from bar. Then put everything together. Honestly i think Lupe just wanted to be a rapping ass nigga and deliver messages but in a coded a way for each song, i dont think he is super clever enough to put together a super profound masterpiece of a story together that will take forever to decipher. Im really starting to think we are all siking ourselves out, but hey maybe im wrong and dude is a complete genius. Its just based on the story he told about the process of making the album, the whole deeper meaning thing seems far fetched.

i dont know what you mean by "deeper meaning" tho ... i mean there's certainly metaphors here ..so i dont think you can doubt that if thats what you mean by deeper meanings.. i mean he said as much in regards to the prisoner 1 and 2 track being a representation of his label situation as well as a representation in the literal sense of his mans being put in jail ...or if you look at deliver being conceptual piece about the literal lack of "peace" in urban environments and its effects on a community..lol so i dont think you have to sike yourself out necessarily for anything as the depth is certainly there ..now to what degree your going to extrapolate his words out to could definitely vary depending upon your enthusiasm for him as an artist...lol

but i agree with you in the sense that this album is a representation of Lupe wanting to let people decide what some of these concepts ultimately mean .. to them...on a grand scale that is... i think thats why he hasn't came out and gave a plain and simple narration to whats happening with every song... but i think art kind of loses its mystic when artist have to do that .. kind of like why Christopher Nolan didn't show if the spinning top fell or not at the end of Inception... i think as an artist you want people to engage with your art and really think critically about it and find layers of meanings especially in this particular art form that is creative writing

but with all that said ..if you want to just enjoy this record on the superficial level ..you certainly can .. i mean the lyricism in the wordplay ..the conscientious content .. the elaborate production don't need too much heavy analyzing to enjoying strictly on a face value level .. and thats the beauty of it .. if you want the dense shit its there ..but if you don't there's still a sonically pleasing album here for you

To this GOTDAMN day I'm still fucked up about that inception shit. I mean me and my girl almost came to blows, being on first 48 talking about that shit. I still believe he was stuck she say he got out.

I think the point Nolan was trying to make was it doesn't matter if he was in or out of the dream in the end because he was at peace with himself.

 

[BoogaSuga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuhS6vAny4

7/10? Fuck out of here

Watched it the other day. He gave it a good review from what i remember. He basically just said its not F&L or the Cool.

 

[Listencloser]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuhS6vAny4

7/10? Fuck out of here

Watched it the other day. He gave it a good review from what i remember. He basically just said its not F&L or the Cool.

Yeah it's better.

 

[CJ]

Guy sebastion killed that hook on Blur my hands

 

[Like Water]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuhS6vAny4

7/10? Fuck out of here

This is the mole rat you go to get your opinions on black music?!

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I've said it before and I'll say it again... When it comes to black music that matters...

 

[StoneColdMikey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuhS6vAny4

7/10? Fuck out of here

This is the mole rat you go to get your opinions on black music?!

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I've said it before and I'll say it again... When it comes to black music that matters...

Exactly don't mater if they only to listen to golden era music. Fuck a white boy opinion

 

[AZTG]

Album is so fucking dope. Way better then expected.

Now Lupe is dope as shit and the album is metaphor galore, I'm sure the album tells a story, and there is more then likely more then one story, but some of you motherfuckers is crazy.

Its just that words when put together can mean multiple things, especially if you search for meanings, everyone will find a different meaning. But I doubt Lupe meant all those meanings. Lupe being such a dope artist most likely had a lose meaning with the album and wrote it in a way where everyone can find different meanings from. Sprinkle a lil symbology here a lil symbology there and let people go crazy.

I'm not saying this to discredit Lupe. Nah. He is definitely one of the best artists of this generation, and to write in a way where everyone can find a different meaning takes real talent.

I'm writing this to say some of yall mafuckas is crazy that's all. And I ain't check no other forum for meanings of the album I just saw what some of y'all posted from other sites.

 

[AZTG]

When it comes to the album though. Shit is so dope. So dope that everytime I listen to it a different song gets stuck in my head. The only song I skip is chopper and not cause the song is bad cause its a great track, but shit is too long.

 

[trilladelic]

"album is dope. nearly flawless.."

- trillladelic

 

[DarthRozay]

da fuck is this? lupe did the fusion dance with ty dolla sign? da fuck?