Lorde Calls Out Drake & Nicki Minaj, Calls Their Music Irrelevant

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Stopitfive;6523434 said:
A1000MILES;6523403 said:
You said outsiders are bein given a mainstream platform to criticize a culture they don't care bout...But...Plenty popular insiders have used the same platform to criticize the culture as well...So...

they the majority or nah?

they popular shit is of this nature or nah?

name the songs on the radio by popular black artists criticizing the other songs on the radio...

Black Skinhead...Don't Kill My Vibe.

So...That's 2...Compared to...2, huh?

The one by Lorde, and the one by Macklemore...?

Oh, aight.
 
A1000MILES;6523348 said:
Nas re-birthed his career by criticizing Hip Hop...

Kanye criticized matters of materialism and religion on his first album...

Eminem(white, but not considered an outsider) criticized fan obsession and paparazzi abuse...

Wale, Cole, Cudi, and Kendrick constantly criticizes the lack of lyricism, creativity, ambition, and passion in their contemporaries...

I mean...Those sound like pretty popular insiders...Right?

Guess it only counts when white artists come in and do it.

And also, Kanye was criticizing homophobia in hiphop in interviews way before Macklemore came along. And remember the Murs video where he kissed a dude...
 
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Monizzle14;6519592 said:
that awkward moment when a white pop star cant relate to the most white washed popish sounding rapper of all time

nicki-minaj-viva-mac-in-store-04.jpg

WOULD STILL F#CK THO......Just Saying..
 
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.

your letting bigoted white folk win by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.
 
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Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.

your letting bigoted white folk win by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

Aaron McGruder tried to warn niggas.

 
Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

 
GSonII;6524166 said:
Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

 
Monizzle14;6524380 said:
GSonII;6524166 said:
Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

No, they would go after pop rappers, then try and send white pop rappers to mimic them and take there spots since they know that would be easier to do than to send a white rapper to try and take the spots of a hardcore rap artist.
 
GSonII;6524454 said:
Monizzle14;6524380 said:
GSonII;6524166 said:
Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

No, they would go after pop rappers, then try and send white pop rappers to mimic them and take there spots since they know that would be easier to do than to send a white rapper to try and take the spots of a hardcore rap artist.

false that shit had a 2% success rate long term. Macklemore even despite all his hype will easily be mac miller in 2 years or asher roth or vanilla ice. That's why white execs push the drakes and nikkis who even after 2+ albums each are still in the poplight making them money. Hows MGK doin? Yelawolf? that shit don't work long term.
 
Monizzle14;6524493 said:
GSonII;6524454 said:
Monizzle14;6524380 said:
GSonII;6524166 said:
Monizzle14;6524031 said:
GSonII;6523241 said:
Monizzle14;6523166 said:
GSonII;6522812 said:
The Lonious Monk;6521575 said:
GSonII;6521031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6519429 said:
I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

No, they would go after pop rappers, then try and send white pop rappers to mimic them and take there spots since they know that would be easier to do than to send a white rapper to try and take the spots of a hardcore rap artist.

false that shit had a 2% success rate long term. Macklemore even despite all his hype will easily be mac miller in 2 years or asher roth or vanilla ice. That's why white execs push the drakes and nikkis who even after 2+ albums each are still in the poplight making them money. Hows MGK doin? Yelawolf? that shit don't work long term.

When are you going to start making sense? Sending radio friendly pop rappers like Macklemore will work a lot better than ever sending some wanna-be hardcore white rapper to attack Talib Kweli or Mos Def. It does not matter what rate the Macklemore's are a success it is a better rate than those attacking Mos Def and Kweli would be. 4 or 5 years ago you had T.I.,Luda,Wayne, Kanye, and Jay and Em probably the only mainstream rap artists capable of getting multiple #1's or top Ten Hot 100 hits on one album. Now it's probably Macklemore, Drake and Eminem. The only reason Mack raps about other shit is because his label has told him it would be a good gimmick. Em doesn't rap about shit at all but he is untouchable. Kendrick does not make big enough hits to be considered pop rap. So, they attack the one truly half black pop rapper at the moment and his crew. It's marketing 101 just like most battles these days. You don't even open yourself to this stuff unless you think you have something to gain. They don't have anything to gain by attacking some hardcore artist. That is not the lane they are after. They are after white-washing the mainstream.

 
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I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

Cosign. We already shittin on our own kind for these niggas. If an IC rapper makes a thread about his song, he will hear crickets. If that same poster posts shit like this and Nicki Minaj doing stupid shit, we will crowd to that shit, cuz that's what we're used to hearing. We currently have the wackest, most cooned out shit on the radio. This nigga Kanye is struggling so hard to be accepted by the fashion industry, he's rocking a confederate flag. A confederate fuckin flag B. He's doin songs with Miley the fuck Cyrus. What frame of reference does she have in the world of hip hop, other than to get money from it? Is she gonna put money in the hood? Fuck no. She don't need our money, why should she? But Juicy J and Kanye are running to her cuz they need it. Again, not the problem, they don't sell to us anymore. Mackelmore and Em sell hip hop music, but we criticize them cuz they're white. Future is a nobody in the mainstream, but we big him up like he's the shit. Migos got a charting hit and an HD video that's racking up millions of views. That shit sound like they made it in they momma basement. We voted for Bow Wow over the Roots and Kweli on 106 and Park for 5 years when TRL was getting its ass kicked and we were still watching videos. That nigga can barely keep a job there today.

We been telling black people this shit for years, but they didn't listen. Now look. We're so scared of not looking good that we don't take chances, say fuck it and depend on the label's money to keep it afloat, only to have them leave us fucked up and jobless. Where is Soulja Boy? Where is Mike Jones? Where is D4L? Where is Flo Rida? Somewhere floating in some white bitch's pool. Nas told you this shit 7 years ago, and we're just now getting it. Hip hop didn't die cuz of white people. It didn't die cuz of gays. It didn't even die cuz of labels, they're making money regardless fuckin over every genre across the board. It died cuz we killed it. They didn't take our soul, we sold it to them for Facebook likes and a chain. We let them niggas build a big ass Wal Mart on our shit. Now we gettin money like we wanted. Congradufuckinlations.
 
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I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.



your letting bigoted white folk win
by catching feelings when some 16 year old white kid was just calling it like she sees it. they want you to think the man is after them and every comment by someone white is to extort power and control. I know white people that hate macklemore and his lameness. I know white people not trying to "solve black issues". But i don't automatically accuse them of trying to do that. Lordes comments have no sentiment of any of this.

And lets be honest black folk don't even want to listen to black folk to help solve their issues. Everytime you try to tell a nigga to stop bowling $15 drink with european liquor like ciroc or stop fighting in line for these overpriced nikes they call jordans they try to tell a nigga you hatin. No nigga im trying to prove to you not to get caught up in the branding by these companies that are trying to hustle you. But another topic for another day.

I disagree white people only win if I actually close my eyes and let them get one over on me like they frequently try to do.

you sound like one of those bitter women who been cheated on and now think all men are the same and ain't shit tho. I don't let anyone hustle me or pull a fast one. But i don't automatically assume everyone is out to get you. They want a sucessful black man to think a white person is always out to get them. But again its a 16 year old chick only going after to of the most radio pop sounding hip hop artists in the game. If some white folk were threatened by hip hop wouldn't they actually go after conscious powerful rappers not radio pop tarts. Its the same reason white execs promote nikki coonaj drake and lil wayne to the masses to begin with.

No, they would go after pop rappers, then try and send white pop rappers to mimic them and take there spots since they know that would be easier to do than to send a white rapper to try and take the spots of a hardcore rap artist.

false that shit had a 2% success rate long term. Macklemore even despite all his hype will easily be mac miller in 2 years or asher roth or vanilla ice. That's why white execs push the drakes and nikkis who even after 2+ albums each are still in the poplight making them money. Hows MGK doin? Yelawolf? that shit don't work long term.

When are you going to start making sense? Sending radio friendly pop rappers like Macklemore will work a lot better than ever sending some wanna-be hardcore white rapper to attack Talib Kweli or Mos Def. It does not matter what rate the Macklemore's are a success it is a better rate than those attacking Mos Def and Kweli would be. 4 or 5 years ago you had T.I.,Luda,Wayne, Kanye, and Jay and Em probably the only mainstream rap artists capable of getting multiple #1's or top Ten Hot 100 hits on one album. Now it's probably Macklemore, Drake and Eminem. The only reason Mack raps about other shit is because his label has told him it would be a good gimmick. Em doesn't rap about shit at all but he is untouchable. Kendrick does not make big enough hits to be considered pop rap. So, they attack the one truly half black pop rapper at the moment and his crew. It's marketing 101 just like most battles these days. You don't even open yourself to this stuff unless you think you have something to gain. They don't have anything to gain by attacking some hardcore artist. That is not the lane they are after. They are after white-washing the mainstream.

but mainstream rap has been whitewashed by black rappers more than white rappers. Again macklemore is hot right now but then most likely it will be another fad. Mac miller was there a few years ago and now hes not nearly as popular. And as much as it appears that white execs are whitewashing hip hop it more has to do with the black rappers who are puppets for them. If nikki didn't dye her hair blonde and speak like a valley girl there would be nothing to whitewash.

 
lol at saying you actually listen to a person then a couple months later saying their music irrelevant . its a reason white macklemore and this bitch saying the shit they saying. its a reason why JT and macklemore won the categories of black genres.
 
I guess the little white bitch was right... 6 pages deep and not one ounce of evidence to support that Drake or Nicki Minaj (or pretty much any other Billboard rapper) aren't soulless pop drones lacking any true semblance of the human experience.

But her shitty song out here inspiring essays and debate from our most passionate users lol i bet Drake wishes he could get in yall feelings like this girl just did
 
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You guys know that macklemore put his album it on an independent label, right? There was no machine trying to destroy black culture pushing it.
 

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