Lorde Calls Out Drake & Nicki Minaj, Calls Their Music Irrelevant

[JerfyT]

People listen for catchiness first and foremost. That's how Katy Perry is popular even though she's never said anything of substance ever.

 

[Lab Baby]

I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear nothing a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

Not to mention Zimmerman wasn't even white, he just had a white last name. But the media played the race card cuz he looked white, and everyone fell for the okey doke as usual, not realizing this wasn't about race, but a trigger happy overcompensating grown ass adult that ran up on a kid based on assumptions, couldn't fight and decided to shoot. That's not racist. That's PUSSY. Racism is fucked up, but it's deep rooted in being pussy, which is the bigger problem in this world. Now thanks to race baitors that fucked up the integrity of the case, a pussy ass nigga is running free in the streets doing stupid shit we accuse kids like Trayvon for doing anyway. Just like this... this naive girl is sayin some real shit, industry made or not... and instead of focusing on the real message, we let the media's interpretation throw us into frivolous arguments instead of using this to solve a problem that's been plaguing society for thousands of years. And that's what the media wants... for us to destroy ourselves so when history is written, people like Lorde and Macklemore end up being the good guys while we're left picking up the pieces... again.

 

[GSonII]

I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear nothing a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

Not to mention Zimmerman wasn't even white, he just had a white last name. But the media played the race card cuz he looked white, and everyone fell for the okey doke as usual, not realizing this wasn't about race, but a trigger happy overcompensating grown ass adult that ran up on a kid based on assumptions, couldn't fight and decided to shoot. That's not racist. That's PUSSY. Racism is fucked up, but it's deep rooted in being pussy, which is the bigger problem in this world. Now thanks to race baitors that fucked up the integrity of the case, a pussy ass nigga is running free in the streets doing stupid shit we accuse kids like Trayvon for doing anyway. Just like this... this naive girl is sayin some real shit, industry made or not... and instead of focusing on the real message, we let the media's interpretation throw us into frivolous arguments instead of using this to solve a problem that's been plaguing society for thousands of years. And that's what the media wants... for us to destroy ourselves so when history is written, people like Lorde and Macklemore end up being the good guys while we're left picking up the pieces... again.

What problem that has been plaguing society for thousands of years is her statement attempting to solve? What problem that has been plaguing society for thousands of years are white people ever interested in attacking when the finger is pointed at them?

I don't see how people are missing that this girl is no different than Kreyshawn/V Nasty, Ms. Laura, etc. White people are always trying to re-write stuff and make themselves look like the good guys. That is what the system does all the time. Hence the Zimmerman/Martin case. By the way, Zimmerman's dad is from Germany and mom Peru. His dad is 100% white. Mom may be latin. His dad made the statement that blacks are the true racists. Which is once again a white person trying to re-write history. It's scary that a person with such a view could be a sitting judge for years but we all know judges are pigs.
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[BoldChild]

Theodis hates drake so much he's defending a sheep herder good job man

No one is even defending her, just saying there is nothing wrong with what she said.

Fact: Drake and Nikki often rap about how much money hey stacking, and how they can't relate to broke niggas.

Fact 2: Most people who listen to heir music would be broke according to the criteria Drake and Nikki layout.

Fact 3: The people mentioned in fact 2 are probably not millionaires, nor famous, therefore you could say they can't relate to the lifestyle Drake and Nikki often portrays in their songs.

Again, what did the white girl say that was so wrong?

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Theodis hates drake so much he's defending a sheep herder good job man

No one is even defending her, just saying there is nothing wrong with what she said.

Fact: Drake and Nikki often rap about how much money hey stacking, and how they can't relate to broke niggas.

Fact 2: Most people who listen to heir music would be broke according to the criteria Drake and Nikki layout.

Fact 3: The people mentioned in fact 2 are probably not millionaires, nor famous, therefore you could say they can't relate to the lifestyle Drake and Nikki often portrays in their songs.

Again, what did the white girl say that was so wrong?

who she is and her agenda are whats wrong.

 

[JerfyT]

She's 16. I don't think she has an "agenda" other than saying she can't relate to music on the radio.

 

[A1000MILES]

This is a dumb ass thread, b...Bitch said she started listenin to rap and realized the most popular artists talk about things her and her friends can't een relate to...Their subject matter is irrelevant to her life...Fuck are y'all een arguin about?...Y'all mad the lil WHITE bitch don't like the same rappers y'all don't?...Smh...

 

[Meta_Conscious]

She's 16. I don't think she has an "agenda" other than saying she can't relate to music on the radio.

but she loves Nicki, Drake, and Watch the Throne... someone is pulling the strings...

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

 

[BoldChild]

Theodis hates drake so much he's defending a sheep herder good job man

No one is even defending her, just saying there is nothing wrong with what she said.

Fact: Drake and Nikki often rap about how much money hey stacking, and how they can't relate to broke niggas.

Fact 2: Most people who listen to heir music would be broke according to the criteria Drake and Nikki layout.

Fact 3: The people mentioned in fact 2 are probably not millionaires, nor famous, therefore you could say they can't relate to the lifestyle Drake and Nikki often portrays in their songs.

Again, what did the white girl say that was so wrong?

who she is and her agenda are whats wrong.

Making the assumption that there is an agenda, is it a bad one? Convincing people to not listen to materialistic music, especially if it encourages them to live above their means. (whether the music intentionally does this or not)

 

[GSonII]

I don't get all the hate. Other rappers have been saying and making songs about this shit for years. Now some little white girl ventures out to make the same statement and it's news?

It's because she is white you ignorant motherfucker

So a viewpoint suddenly becomes ignorant and wrong just because you don't like the source even if more reputable sources have said the same thing. That's some dumb shit right there.

No, you said you don't get the hate. I am saying it is because she is white. Sensible black people don't want to hear anything a white person has to say to them when it comes to criticizing them or judging them because they understand that the white man usually has an agenda and that we simply do not speak the same language.

This is the same white man that let Zimmerman off for self defense by simply ignoring that Zimmerman was the aggressor in that situation up until Trayvon turned around and decided that enough was enough. Not only did they let him off, he got his gun back. Meanwhile, they have loopholes called laws that allows them to take away a persons rights to bear arms in situations where they have not done anything which shows judgement as poor as Zimmerman did. I could go on and on showing how we just don't speak the same language or think alike. So, yes you are ignorant if you can't see most blacks have a reason for not wanting to hear anything whites have to say that is critical of them because it is well known we don't see things alike or speak the same language.

But now your making a blanket statement about how white people act which is completely false. What she did was the excat opposite of some white people who want to dictate that blacks can't say nigga or that all blacks are thugs to trayvon was a thug cause he smoked weed.

What this chick did was point out 2 superficial/suspect ass ymcmb lames and call it how she sees it. Notice she didn't call out nas she didn't call out mos def or big krit. She called out ms plastic uncle tom barbie nikki coonaj. And then she called out mr "pretend i started from the bottom" tampon don drake.

We need to stop thinking every white person that speaks out against hip hop is making a blanket judgement about black folk cause shit us as a black people need to really check these lames and sellouts like nikki who going more pop to get a white audience comprimising the core values of the artform.

None of that changes the fact that whites are not trying to solve or air out there own issues. So, why would a serious-minded black person want to hear whites trying to solve or air out black issues? No, it is not just a music issue that sees no color. Some people think that Robin Thicke stole from a black icon with the song "Blurred Lines" how many whites have you heard addressing that "music issue"? Macklemore uses the word honky in "Thrift Shop" where were the white people then? On the other hand, they will use the idea that we should all stop using hurtful language to describe others such as faggot, nigga, spick, cracka, honky, etc when telling us we should stop saying nigga. Once again any sensible person would be suspect of this girls intentions because of the history that white people have always trying to re-write history.

 

[JerfyT]

A 16 year old girl. This really can't be stressed enough. You guys are getting angry over a 16 year old girl.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Theodis hates drake so much he's defending a sheep herder good job man

No one is even defending her, just saying there is nothing wrong with what she said.

Fact: Drake and Nikki often rap about how much money hey stacking, and how they can't relate to broke niggas.

Fact 2: Most people who listen to heir music would be broke according to the criteria Drake and Nikki layout.

Fact 3: The people mentioned in fact 2 are probably not millionaires, nor famous, therefore you could say they can't relate to the lifestyle Drake and Nikki often portrays in their songs.

Again, what did the white girl say that was so wrong?

who she is and her agenda are whats wrong.

Making the assumption that there is an agenda, is it a bad one? Convincing people to not listen to materialistic music, especially if it encourages them to live above their means. (whether the music intentionally does this or not)

the agenda is for white saviors to civilize the black savages... i.e. Macklemore criticizing homophobia in hip hop. Lorde criticizing materialism. they both are outsiders who have been given a platform to criticize hip hop in ways that people of color have always done while being ignored by the mainstream.

another issue is that they support and promote the horseshit only to turn around and say "look how bad the negroes r!"

 

[A1000MILES]

Nas re-birthed his career by criticizing Hip Hop...

Kanye criticized matters of materialism and religion on his first album...

Eminem(white, but not considered an outsider) criticized fan obsession and paparazzi abuse...

Wale, Cole, Cudi, and Kendrick constantly criticizes the lack of lyricism, creativity, ambition, and passion in their contemporaries...

I mean...Those sound like pretty popular insiders...Right?

 

[BelovedAfeni]

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Nas re-birthed his career by criticizing Hip Hop...

Kanye criticized matters of materialism and religion on his first album...

Eminem(white, but not considered an outsider) criticized fan obsession and paparazzi abuse...

Wale, Cole, Cudi, and Kendrick constantly criticizes the lack of lyricism, creativity, ambition, and passion in their contemporaries...

I mean...Those sound like pretty popular insiders...Right?

1. false

2. so?

3. he's white

4. who, so, who, so?

there are far more critics who don't get love than there are those who do... what is your point anyway?

u want niggas to just say "yeah, plz criticize us more white saviors!"

"Yay Lorde thinks Drake and Nicki are socially unconscious!"

why don't they criticize their own fucked up culture and talk about their history of atrocities?

hip hop is not a platform for white artists to tell us whats wrong with blacks.

 

[A1000MILES]

You said outsiders are bein given a mainstream platform to criticize a culture they don't care bout...But...Plenty popular insiders have used the same platform to criticize the culture as well...So...

 

[Meta_Conscious]

You said outsiders are bein given a mainstream platform to criticize a culture they don't care bout...But...Plenty popular insiders have used the same platform to criticize the culture as well...So...

they the majority or nah?

they popular shit is of this nature or nah?

name the songs on the radio by popular black artists criticizing the other songs on the radio...

 

[Bcotton5]

that awkward moment when a white pop star cant relate to the most white washed popish sounding rapper of all time

eat a dick nigga

 

[Bcotton5]

Who?

Oh. Okay.