Preach2Teach;9520937 said:
mryounggun;9520870 said:
Naw, no rounds off. I'm legit curious as to what this niggas argument is. Someone tell me. Please. And don't tell me what you assume his argument is. Tell me what you got from his actual post what his argument is.
Man fuck you and your American cheerleaders, gonna reload and come back with that knockout blow, your only argument so far has been "DC will get to choose how it spends tax money" when was the last time you signed off on a new road being built? your argument is bullshit the government will spend that money however it wants and the people will follow suit or bitch and moan like in every other city!
You also fucked up when you said people in DC have no federal representation to change laws or enact them. That's not entirely true, they are allowed to vote in federal elections (The Presidency) and can vote for a representative, but the Representative has limited powers, he or she can introduce bills into the house but is not allowed to vote on them (conflict of interest)
Originally they wouldn't make DC a state because the founders didn't want the place where laws were decided to have such great power and be a tyrant to itself and possibly the nation. It's actually in the constitution.
Paragraph 1: Trying (unsuccessfully) to attack a clear, cogent point that I've made. The government will spend money however Congress tells them to spend it. And you elect your congressman at the state level. Since Washington D.C. is not a state, they have no voting congressional representatives, and therefore no voice when it comes time to decide on such matters.
Paragraph 2: Trying (unsuccessfully) to attack another clear, cogent point that I've made. Yes, DC residents can vote for President and have electoral votes. But, by and large, the President doesn't promise, create or approve laws, does he? So who does? Congress! And by now, you should know that DC - since it isn't a gotdamn state - has no voting members of Congress. Thus, they have no voice at all when it comes to what the actual President does. You would have know what a shitty counter--argument that was had you had any clue about how the United States government works.
Paragraph 3. Trying to explain why DC was not made a state initially. The purpose of which, I have no gotdamn idea.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm an American. And like most Americans, I only know one language. However, if ever there was a time that I wished I knew another, it is today. Because maybe then I could find a way to request the following in a way that my opponent could understand, since it's clear he doesn't:
PLEASE TELL ME YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT WHY DC SHOULD NOT BECOME A STATE
No amount of anger, hostility or panic is gonna save you, @Preach2Teach. Remember, YOU asked for this. It's amazing how your tone has changed from the time you first posted that Drago picture to now. By now, surely you'v realized what a terrible mistake you made.
I've explained that DC residents are still required to pay federal taxes, but have no voting members of Congress or the Senate. Granting them statehood would resolve this by giving them 2 senators and X amount Congressional representatives.
I've explained that DC residents are not even really allowed to govern themselves since their city budget, laws, proposals, etc, all have to be approved by Congress and why that is problematic. Granting them statehood would resolve this by bring them under the umbrella of their state government for such approvals.
I then shot a hole in pretty much every one of your extraordinarily shitty counter-arguments. And now I'm here, again, asking you for some semblance of a reason for why you think DC should not become a state, since that is the side of the argument that you were assigned.
But let it not be said that I'm a monster. I know the value of mercy. I asked you before the debate even started if you wanted to forfeit. You refused. I gave you the chance to tag @HundredEyes in so that maybe he could muster up a better defense. Here I am again, with all the kindness I can scrape together, asking you if you want to concede. Your teammate @CeLLaR-DooR has already shown you the way.
It's ok to give up and save face. It's not really even your fault. You just ran into a real one. Next time you'll know better.
Now do you want to continue this embarrassing performance? If so, PLEASE start your next post by answering the question that I've been asking you for the last 3 posts.
Your turn, Tommy Gunn.
