Let's End The Debate: Kareem Abdul Jabbar vs Michael Jordan

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DaBull;8970261 said:
coons always get more love universally

this is america

Magic and Mike = coon.com

Nah, Bill Russell and Wilt didn't even have Kareem in their top 5 ATL when they were interviewed in '97; Magic (and to a degree Oscar) deserves more credit than Kareem does for him winning titles and being on a contender bc Kareem didn't make his teammates better what so ever, the guy was the definition of hollow stats in the 70s post-Oscar/pre-Magic (his Prime years) and his MVPs were suspect, he won an MVP in '76 when his team was below .500 and missed the playoffs.

Im more familiar with his Laker years than Bucks (though i do know Dave Cowens sonnin him in G7 of the Finals in '74 that gets swept under the rug), and to my knowledge if he wasnt missin the playoffs Kareem was gettin bounced in the 1st/2nd round before Magic arrived despite having great players around him in Gail Goodrich, Norm Nixon, Adrian Dantley, Jaamal Wilkes, Lou Hudson etc...

Kareem also didn't even try on defense if he wasn't gettin his shots, point is, Kareem was a dominant offensive player that couldn't lead his team and make them close to a contender w/o two ATG PGs..

In a All Time fantasy draft if i had a team with a bunch of good players but it doesnt have top 15 All Time talent on it, then there's about 8-10 players All Time i would pick to lead my team over Kareem, and if i had a team full of scrubs then I'm not even thinkin about takin Kareem unless you like hollow stats, the 9th/8th seed and your team goin home in 5.

MJ>>>>

 
Brewjo;9475952 said:
Kareem didn't make his teammates better? What was the bucks record before they drafted him?

better yet what did Oscar with without him ?

what did Magic win without him ?

 
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Kareem played 5 more seasons than Jordan and even then Jordan's season stats for the most part besides rebounds and blocks, Jordan lead in points, assists, steals, and 3 point %. So you cannot compare career stats when Jordan did not play as long. Compare season stats. Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
 
Stoned_Monkey;c-9584961 said:
Kareem played 5 more seasons than Jordan and even then Jordan's season stats for the most part besides rebounds and blocks, Jordan lead in points, assists, steals, and 3 point %. So you cannot compare career stats when Jordan did not play as long. Compare season stats. Michael Jordan is the GOAT.

Kareem took one three point shot in his entire career. And I think that was in an all star game.

You gotta remember that the 3 point shot didn't exist in the NBA until after they merged with the ABA. The first 3 point shot was in 1979, 10 years into Kareem's career. And he was a center anyway, what would he look like taking a 3 point shot?

Anyway, bottom line, Kareem is the all time point leader and nobody is coming close to breaking his record. There aren't any players in the league on track to break Kareem's all time scoring record.
 

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