Let's End The Debate: Kareem Abdul Jabbar vs Michael Jordan

[Mister B.]

This debate will never end.

I tried this once already, and the Spacejammers went baboon shit over the ether thrown around.

The Proof

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I mean Stat wise...

 

[its....JOHN B]

This is a debate?

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Ain't no debate.One is a 5 who needed to be in certain spots on the floor to operate and had to be fed the ball who benefited from playing with magic the other was a 2 way beast and all around player who dominated an era of bigs.

Who was better defender? - Jordan

Better scorer?- Jordan

More dominant?- Jordan

Better playoff performer- Jordan

Jordan LED his team to 6 Championships no shotgun riding like kareem

All kareem dickriders have are stats of course he has more numbers he played 20 years who was more skilled and dominated the game more? Jordan

Kobe,Iverson,Wade,Lebron all influenced by jordan

 

[CapitalB]

the better player?? Kareem..

the greater player to the game of basketball?? Jordan..

i came to this conclusion and have gotten closure on this issue debating boxing (which im a casual fan of) wit a friend over Mayweather and Ali...

i argued Ali bein greater and better..

but because my boy was a lil bit more knowledgable then me in the sport i conceded.. but Mayweather will never mean as much to the sport of boxing and reach that status of Ali..

same wit basketball..

as dominant as Kareem was on every level.. nigga balled since YMCA, lol he'll never mean to basketball what Jordan does..

and also Billfiger sounds like an idiot..

if im not mistaken he's from chicago so i guess its to be expected in a thread like this..

but there is no way to logically argue Jordan bein the better player.. thats jus emotions talking..

 

[Mister B.]

This argument is too circular.

People bring up Stats for Kareem, Jordan fans will say shoes, Wheaties, and other shit.

You bring up Kareem chips, they'll say he didn't win them without Magic or Big O, keeping in mind Mike won NOTHING till Scottie and Phil got there.

We've been through this. At this point, it's more about who you're asking and what era of the NBA they enjoyed more.

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

It's misleading to compare total career stats seeing as MJ only played 2/3 as many games as Kareem. It would also be misleading to post career averages since Kareem played well past his prime compared to Jordan who only had 2 years as a Wizard. I also love how that list left out Finals MVP's which MJ trumps Kareem 6-2.

That said, if anybody other than Jordan has a case to be the GOAT, it's Kareem.

 

[CapitalB]

It's misleading to compare total career stats seeing as MJ only played 2/3 as many games as Kareem. It would also be misleading to post career averages since Kareem played well past his prime compared to Jordan who only had 2 years as a Wizard. I also love how that list left out Finals MVP's which MJ trumps Kareem 6-2.

That said, if anybody other than Jordan has a case to be the GOAT, it's Kareem.

i actually argue Magic..

bein better AND greater..

but i digress..

 

[PanchoYoSancho]

It's misleading to compare total career stats seeing as MJ only played 2/3 as many games as Kareem. It would also be misleading to post career averages since Kareem played well past his prime compared to Jordan who only had 2 years as a Wizard. I also love how that list left out Finals MVP's which MJ trumps Kareem 6-2.

That said, if anybody other than Jordan has a case to be the GOAT, it's Kareem.

i actually argue Magic..

bein better AND greater..

but i digress..

I agree, but if you're talking career accomplishments it goes to Kareem. Kareem won a ring without Magic and twice as many MVPs. He's got as many rings and 1 more MVP than Jordan. Jordan has 1more ring and 2 more MVPs than Magic. And Kareem won more NCAA championships than Jordan and Magic combined.

 

[CapitalB]

It's misleading to compare total career stats seeing as MJ only played 2/3 as many games as Kareem. It would also be misleading to post career averages since Kareem played well past his prime compared to Jordan who only had 2 years as a Wizard. I also love how that list left out Finals MVP's which MJ trumps Kareem 6-2.

That said, if anybody other than Jordan has a case to be the GOAT, it's Kareem.

i actually argue Magic..

bein better AND greater..

but i digress..

I agree, but if you're talking career accomplishments it goes to Kareem. Kareem won a ring without Magic and twice as many MVPs. He's got as many rings and 1 more MVP than Jordan. Jordan has 1more ring and 2 more MVPs than Magic. And Kareem won more NCAA championships than Jordan and Magic combined.

which is why iv long stopped arguin..

niggas bring that in but wanna dismiss it when i then bring up Kareem. lol

 

[Shizlansky]

It's misleading to compare total career stats seeing as MJ only played 2/3 as many games as Kareem. It would also be misleading to post career averages since Kareem played well past his prime compared to Jordan who only had 2 years as a Wizard. I also love how that list left out Finals MVP's which MJ trumps Kareem 6-2.

That said, if anybody other than Jordan has a case to be the GOAT, it's Kareem.

i actually argue Magic..

bein better AND greater..

but i digress..

I agree, but if you're talking career accomplishments it goes to Kareem. Kareem won a ring without Magic and twice as many MVPs. He's got as many rings and 1 more MVP than Jordan. Jordan has 1more ring and 2 more MVPs than Magic. And Kareem won more NCAA championships than Jordan and Magic combined.

6 finals MVP and same amount of Rings in less years.

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

and also Billfiger sounds like an idiot..

if im not mistaken he's from chicago so i guess its to be expected in a thread like this..

but there is no way to logically argue Jordan bein the better player.. thats jus emotions talking..

Cuz nobody outside chicago calls jordan the goat,Foh wit that trash logic.Refute anything I posted and prove me wrong then and we'll see who's the real idiot

 

[sapo614]

Jordan is the goat because if there was a draft today with all the NBA players that ever played he'll be picked first by most. Kareem wouldn't be picked until later in the draft and that would show how much many of you really think of him because honestly I doubt anybody picks him first.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

I tend to compare players post by post. So I dont see how to compare the two. What is sure they are both legendary gifted players.

However the Aura, the Impact, the IMPRINT at a globla scale of Jordan give the latter the edge.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Jordan was and is the face of LEGENDARY basketball till today. Hes ahs done so musch for the game. Hes was beyond the game. In a football dominated country he has provoked a cultural shellshock.

We havent heard terms like ' the Jabbar of cooking, the Jabbr of dancing, the Jabbar of football, cricket'

But we have ' the Jordan standards'. Even his memes are winning lol.

His talent, style and achievement had all this cultural global Impact that only a few could have, Michael Jackson by example.

And we still havnt seen his replacement yet. The crown is still on his head. The Aura is still here.

Sorry Bron, Magic, Steph, Duncan, Kobe. Yall super good but once I watch some Jordan Vids, i m still like a lil kid, MESMERIZED

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

This won't end the debate as Jordan is more popular, so Jordan will win EVERY poll no matter who he's put against. That's why Jordan is considered the GREATEST player, and not the most-skilled or simply the best player ever.

It's like arguing Biggie or Pac vs. a rapper who is a clearly better MC. Those 2 rappers are going to beat out everyone except each other.

Micheal Jackson is also on that level of popularity in his field. Muhammad Ali is the same in the field of boxing. The funny thing is, it's all a product of marketing and promotion, that the average viewer falls victim to.

... With that said, Jordan was extremely skilled, so he's easily the best combination of true skill mixed with a ridiculously amount of marketing and promotion. Jordan is truly better than 99.99% of the competition.

 

[caddo man]

Bigs need a player to deliver the ball. Only reason why they will never be consider the GOAT!They rely on their teammates.

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Bigs need a player to deliver the ball. Only reason why they will never be consider the GOAT!They rely on their teammates.

No they don't. Don't confuse the format or the way the game is played with actual talent or skill level. A lot of bigs, especially all-time great bigs can bring the ball up the court with no problem.

 

[caddo man]

Bigs need a player to deliver the ball. Only reason why they will never be consider the GOAT!They rely on their teammates.

No they don't. Don't confuse the format or the way the game is played with actual talent or skill level. A lot of bigs, especially all-time great bigs can bring the ball up the court with no problem.

Bill Russell

Kareem

Hakeem

Ewing

David Robinson

Wilt

Shaquille

Bring the ball up huh?

 

[BedStuy]

Jordan, too easy