Let's be real, the buck stops with the female.

[UPTOWN]

your examples have nothing to do with the topic and doesnt prove or disprove anything.....and u used contradict wrong

you want me to go back and edit it?

 

[desertrain10]

LMAO @ young man.........I'm most likely older than you champ

seeding a jump doesn't say anything about a person...............accidents happen

the thread premise isn't talmbout fatherly responsibilities, so all of what you are saying is pretty irrelevant because no one is advocating not taking care own their own kid(s)

the bottom line is if me and shorty both playing the same game, but this chick gets 75% more choices on how she wants to carry it....................but yet somehow we still both share 50% of the responsibility for whatever happens

that math is fucked up haha

legally and medically the woman gets more safeguards and opportunities for recourse, period point blank

if you think that's fair, then you might want to find a coach that can train you to stop simpin

don't feel bad about it fam, it happens to the best of us sometimes LOL

thats sounds about right to me. the child shares 50% of each's parent's dna...

its not like a man can't wear a condom, pull out, get his shit snipped, abstain etc....

before the unprotected sex takes place, men and women are on equal playing fields playa

if you don't like the rules of the game hit the bench ... or pay up

 

[Copper]

you want me to go back and edit it?

I want u to start making sense ....OJ SIMPson

 

[blakfyahking]

good post .... but at the end of the day, you're arguing that life should be fair ... how logical is that??? LOL

you're arguing that its unfair that shaq cant shoot 3's but dirk novitski can even tho theyre both big men

maybe i am arguing apples and oranges ... cause youre arguing how things SHOULD BE and im arguing how thing really are

good post tho (no sarcasm)

nah, I'm actually not

I'm just saying let's stop lying to these chicks acting like they are really our equals when it comes to responsibility

cause it's contradictory to act like child support laws, welfare, and various ways of birth control don't make us appear chauvinist when we endorse all that shit, and then say women should be seen as equal to men

if men had as many birth control methods, and fathers had a choice on whether or not a chick should get an abortion with his kid, then maybe a lot of these single moms wouldn't be running around as much

/just sayin

 

[T. Sanford]

if you meet a bad chick with a kid, and you try to play step daddy ... you have failed. if she demands that you be a father to someone else's child .... you are pussy if you do LOL

i just think its funny that yall think this applies to all women with kids ... the shit is funny as hell. the women i meet with a kid or two are more likely to have a cordial relationship than these childless women who have this sense of entitlement

maybe it depends on what kind of women youre dealing with.... ive never gotten a woman preggo by accident

Some chicks fall for the next man that come around & automatically try to make them their child's step daddy. I even catch some posting "looking for somewhere who can love me & have my child to look as a father" or some sort. but these boppers dont understand, that a uncle, a older cousin etc can be a father figure. very small portion of single mother women have the act together & are true mother's to their kids with class unlike most these boppers that have niggas run in & out their storm door like its a open house

 

[blakfyahking]

thats sounds about right to me. the child shares 50% of each's parent's dna...

its not like a man can't wear a condom, pull out, get his shit snipped, abstain etc....
before the unprotected sex takes place, men and women are on equal playing fields playa

if you don't like the rules of the game hit the bench ... or pay up

so basically you don't believe grown women should be treated like intelligent logical adults just like the men right?

oh, and don't worry babes, I already sent my child support check for this month to your house already

how my 4 lil niglets doing in school?

 

[fullfledged]

Don't believe the hype... Sperm die when they are in a chick... Pre cum is not that strong

i'm speaking from experience my son is a precum baby

 

[desertrain10]

so basically you don't believe grown women should be treated like intelligent logical adults just like the men right?

oh, and don't worry babes, I already sent my child support check for this month to your house already

how my 4 lil niglets doing in school?

no and if i'm not mistaken anyone with custody of the child can ask for support from the biological parent(s).... and any one can apply for welfare so...

anyways no man or anyone should not be able to dip out on a child they helped to create. its morally wrong. and its a burden on tax payers and adds to social decay ....

and its not like these women who decided to these children do not have to pay for the consequences of their decisions one way or another

raising a child single handedly is one of the most diffucult tasks on earth.

 

[blakfyahking]

no and if i'm not mistaken anyone with custody of the child can ask for support from the biological parent(s).... and any one can apply for welfare so...

anyways no man or anyone should not be able to dip out on a child they helped to create. its morally wrong. and its a burden on tax payers and adds to social decay ....

and its not like these women who decided to these children do not have to pay for the consequences of their decisions one way or another
raising a child single handedly is one of the most diffucult tasks on earth.

key word is custody babes.............but hell we ain't even got to take it that far, cause the chick could still get a plan b pill/abortion/etc.

the day a man has a choice on whether or not a woman can abort his kid, is the day we can act like all these extra safeguards given to females are justified

whether or not someone dips on their child, it's still gone be a burden on tax payers.................how you gon make laws that are supposed to make both parents be responsible, but yet all the risk is only laid on one party?

a fertile jump really has no incentive to really weed out the deadbeats that she is letting penetrate her walls, cause Uncle Sam makes sure that chick is guaranteed to get some kind of free ride LOL

and if she is the gatekeeper, then the way to solve the single momma issue is to start with her

any woman who seeks equality but supports this setup is a true hypocrit

 

[blakfyahking]

mofos in here justifying why some of these scandalous broads be getting kicked down long flights of brick steps

SMH @ a chick who doesn't even know your govt name talmbout she pregnant and she gon keep the baby

 

[desertrain10]

key word is custody babes.............but hell we ain't even got to take it that far, cause the chick could still get a plan b pill/abortion/etc.

the day a man has a choice on whether or not a woman can abort his kid, is the day we can act like all these extra safeguards given to females are justified

whether or not someone dips on their child, it's still gone be a burden on tax payers.................how you gon make laws that are supposed to make both parents be responsible, but yet all the risk is only laid on one party?

a fertile jump really has no incentive to really weed out the deadbeats that she is letting penetrate her walls, cause Uncle Sam makes sure that chick is guaranteed to get some kind of free ride LOL

and if she is the gatekeeper, then the way to solve the single momma issue is to start with her

any woman who seeks equality but supports this setup is a true hypocrit

ok, single parenthood is not a free ride. and a woman or whoever has to actually have guardanship of the child to receive child support, seems like an equal trade off to me...

while women are granted full custody most the time,which is unfair, it still doesn't change the fact that it takes two to make a baby... thus both biological

parents should have to at least financially or emotionally support their child(ren)...

and nothing you said changes the fact that before impregnation, women and men both have the means to prevent a unwanted preganacy...whcih was my original point

at the end of the day to put an end to child support would hurt children in the long run, and it wouldn't stop the woman who do decide to have babies by known dead beats.... its not like most single mothers are living these glamorous lives free from responsibility. a lot of these women do it for love.... not a measely welfare check or $350 a month. lol

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Y'all are the ones that actually get pregnant and y'all have the power to prevent it with birth control pills, diaphragms, shots, and all kinds of shit. Then disregarding all that, y'all could still abort that shit and the man can't even stop you.

So who's more to blame for all these fatherless children ?

yes I have heard plenty of females blame the man for becoming impregnated and for not using birth control...like they wasnt there and had no say

Exactly.

Females be talkin' so much shit about 9 months and what they gotta go through (and how men don't have to go through shit) but then they're same ones that won't prevent that shit. It's your body ho, you must wanna go through that shit

Whatever but females are more to blame cuz they got the ultimate say.

Women need to take responsibility for all they power they have but choose not to use.

People in here catching mad feelings. The T/S isn't speaking of himself personally so the ad hominem posts can stop. He makes a valid point. One chick i used to work with has a college degree, but her dumbass decided to try and "trap" a hustla to "husband up". Now dude is avoiding her, is she going to abort.... HELL NO. People lack judgment out here. We act like fatherless homes are such a problem in the black community but yet women continue to do dumb shit with terrible niggaz and now a child has to suffer for it.

Her problem could have been solved with a condom. It could have been solved if she had actually taking her birth control pill instead of pretending she did. It could have been solved with a Plan B pill. It could have been solved with an abortion. Instead, it's not solved at all, the problem is growing and she will have to share all her problems with a baby. She was the last line of defense and she completely fucked up.

i dont understand females that clearly see the father isn't ready to raise a child and neither are they together but refuse to stop the pregnancy and bring the kid into the world fatherless and poor anyways

alot of women out here...(educated women) just pick the most irresponsible man to chase..then when shit goes down hill there quick to point the finger at him for being irresponsible

Can I give you another analogy ?

-------------------

Suzie has stick of dynamite. Johnny has a book of matches. Suzie is holding the stick of dynamite but doesn't want it to blow up in her hands. What's the least effective way to make sure the dynamite doesn't blow up ?

A. Soak the dynamite in water.
B. Remove the fuse from the dynamite.
C. Remove all the gun powder from the dynamite.
D. Tell Johnny not to use the matches.

If Suzie wants to keep her hands, she better not leave it up to Johnny.

Ladies, let me give you some advice coming from a guy that used to play women all the time. First off throw away all those stupid chick-lit, self help, "why doesn't he love me" books. Here's what you need to know about men: Men will treat you the way you let them. There is no such thing as "deserving respect", you get what you demand from people. If you let a guy fuck you, cum on your back, eat your food, borrow your money and/or car and leave, he'll do it. But if you demand respect (and have respect for yourself) he'll either respect you or move on to another sucker. It's that simple. And stop looking at every man you meet as a potential boyfriend/husband. Some are boyfriend material, most aren't.

Shit is ridiculous. I wonder if those women be thinkin " i know I shudnt be tryna have babies wit this dude, but I can change him"

That's EXACTLY what happens sometimes. Then they place the blame on the bumb for being the same bumb he was when they met.

Hahahaha. Take that L and learn from it

I can't front, thus thread does have a valid point. A lot of these hefas knew these niggas ain't about s@@@, yet they still laid wit him.

I agree with this t/s. No matter what we argue here, the cold hard fact is this:

Mens immediate options to prevent kids
1. Don't have sex
2. Wear a condom

Womens immediate options to prevent kids
1. Don't have sex
2. Have him wear a condom
3. Morning after pill
4. Abortion

If they want the kid, they will have the kid despite what the man says and it will grow up in whatever environment she wants it to be in. The buck stops with the female. The end.

lol thats why I bring up the abortion question before I have sex with a man...and unlike most of these fools I actually get to know a person before I have sex with them so I can have an opportunity to observe their true character to determine if they would be the type of man to give me problems if I became pregnant...

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that as a woman, you have more options to prevent an unwanted child (birth control pill, diaphragm, patch, morning after, abortion, etc...) and it's also in your best interest because it's your body that's gonna go through 9 months of pregnancy plus delivery AND it's you who will have to physically raise the baby if the guy leaves...

so who has more power to prevent the situation ?

A woman's body is her own. They have far more options after the fact. That's just the truth of the matter. But just like a dude should have wore a condom, she should of said no when he didn't. Respect the temple that is your body. She let that nigga go in raw, risking pregnancy and whatever else the dice rolled. Women forget that they are the gatekeepers of life, all a man can do is insert the key.

I've taken that women blaming men for unwanted pregnancies is them admitting to their own inferior roles. She is incapable of thinking for herself and controlling what is done to her body. Needing someone else to tell her what to do with it. As such, she will be treated as the weakling she portrays herself to be. And she should bend to his will as he see's fit. I've met too many women, single and in relationships, that don't have kids. They know what they have and how to control it. I can't help but think a little common sense, from both parties involved, was all it took to prevent these accidental births out here.

Unless they were raped or some shit.

True indeed. Some of these females know it like the back of their hands. Get pregnant, apply for welfare + child support, go on facebook talking about how you are "both mother and father", rinse and repeat. Forget about working or preventing a child in the first place.

dont fuck someone that you couldnt see being a fit parent first of all
use protection
hope for the best

so basically you don't believe grown women should be treated like intelligent logical adults just like the men right?

ALL THE OTHER POST IN HERE ARE IRREVERENT AND OFF TOPIC AS FUCK!!!!! I noticed the posters on here who refute these post all have one thing in common........guess what that is? lol. I notice when people fuck up and make dumb ass decisions they either want everyone to be like them or don't want anyone to speak on their problems. It's obvious to me now that a lot of women don't know their own worth or how much power they hold in this situation. They don't fully understand the responsibility they have in between they legs. Their logic and decision making is all fucked up. It's like they don't understand that when it comes down to it they have the final say at pretty much every point in this situation. The only say we have is after they give us the say lol.

I'm going to add to all these logical post:

woman has a house with lots of valuable items in it that she worked all her life for.
a man(well known thief) ask could he come in the woman's house. And spend the night.
woman knows he's a thief but she unlocks the door to her house and lets him in anyway.
The next morning the woman wakes up and all her valuable stuff is gone.
The woman is now complaining about the well known thief and wondering why the thief stole her stuff.

 

[UPTOWN]

ALL THE OTHER POST IN HERE ARE IRREVERENT AND OFF TOPIC AS FUCK!!!!! I noticed the posters on here who refute these post all have one thing in common........guess what that is? lol. I notice when people fuck up and make dumb ass decisions they either want everyone to be like them or don't want anyone to speak on their problems. It's obvious to me now that a lot of women don't know their own worth or how much power they hold in this situation. They don't fully understand the responsibility they have in between they legs. Their logic and decision making is all fucked up. It's like they don't understand that when it comes down to it they have the final say at pretty much every point in this situation. The only say we have is after they give us the say lol.

I'm going to add to all these logical post:

woman has a house with lots of valuable items in it that she worked all her life for.
a man(well known thief) ask could he come in the woman's house. And spend the night.
woman knows he's a thief but she unlocks the door to her house and lets him in anyway.
The next morning the woman wakes up and all her valuable stuff is gone.
The woman is now complaining about the well known thief and wondering why the thief stole her stuff.

just log off man ... wtf are you talking about??? LOL

 

[UPTOWN]

Some chicks fall for the next man that come around & automatically try to make them their child's step daddy. I even catch some posting "looking for somewhere who can love me & have my child to look as a father" or some sort. but these boppers dont understand, that a uncle, a older cousin etc can be a father figure. very small portion of single mother women have the act together & are true mother's to their kids with class unlike most these boppers that have niggas run in & out their storm door like its a open house

yeah you'll find those ... but to say they are the majority isnt factual tho ... thats just what we tend to dwell on

 

[UPTOWN]

I want u to start making sense ....OJ SIMPson

well if you really wanna go there ... we can post up babes that we smashing then .... cause im starting to think your whole shit is a front

you might have preference ... but do you have babez tho???

 

[UPTOWN]

nah, I'm actually not

I'm just saying let's stop lying to these chicks acting like they are really our equals when it comes to responsibility

cause it's contradictory to act like child support laws, welfare, and various ways of birth control don't make us appear chauvinist when we endorse all that shit, and then say women should be seen as equal to men

if men had as many birth control methods, and fathers had a choice on whether or not a chick should get an abortion with his kid, then maybe a lot of these single moms wouldn't be running around as much

/just sayin

so youre saying that women have less responsibilty and thats why they dont mind having the kid??

also ... give me a logical scenario on how a man could have a say after the fact that a woman is preggo

the court says "the father does not want you to have this child, and you do not have a high enough income or stable living situation to raise this child on your own. report to the abortion clinic at once or be sentence to 5 years prison"

LOL does that really sound reasonable fam ... does that sound realistic?? LOL

if you really dont want to be in your childs life but you make the mistake of putting the ball in her court ... whats the worse that can happen to an avg man??? 400 - 500 dollars a month in support.

LOL you honestly think that you can ask a girl to abort a baby, but you the father should just be completely exempt and should just walk around chilling watching the game because you wanna back peddle on the actions that you lived out and dont wanna change based on the shit that you are doing??? LOL

so if you refuse to father a child ... should you have to get some kind of temporary vasectomy???

i just dont see how its cool to fuck any ol dumb broad and then when shit hits the fan you expect her to come to her senses ... it just doesnt seem realistic to me

its their fault if they fuck with a no good nigga AND its their fault if they fuck wit YOU

OK HOW ABOUT THIS... GIVE ME A SCENARIO WHERE ITS ACTUALLY THE MANS FAULT THEN

LOLOLOLOL

yall the type of dudes to go to exit everytime youre about to lose an important game in madden franchise mode LOL ... smh at niggas arguing that there should be a back door if you take an L

like niggas is having pro life pro choice discussions before the smash broads LOLOLOL

 

[PILL_COSBY]

just log off man ... wtf are you talking about??? LOL

THE TOPIC DUMB ASS!!!!!! how about you put a lid on those feelings you have caught from this thread and join us logical people on the subject.

You seriously sounding like the very females this thread is speaking on and you don't even see it. But I'm going to ignore you now after seeing that none of your post have anything to do with the topic. you are clearly trying to derail the thread. mindstarter and miss jones >>> at derailing and trolling threads

 

[7figz]

so youre saying that women have less accountability and thats why they dont mind having the kid??

Fixed that for ya.

also ... give me a logical scenario on how a man could have a say after the fact that a woman is preggo

the court says "the father does not want you to have this child, and you do not have a high enough income or stable living situation to raise this child on your own. report to the abortion clinic at once or be sentence to 5 years prison"

LOL does that really sound reasonable fam ... does that sound realistic?? LOL

Even though you're not addressing the topic, I'll respond to this. It may not be realistic because that's not the way it goes down today, but maybe it should. In China, there is supposedly limits to the number of children a family can have. And to address the father not wanting the child, why is that so weird to you ? If the mother doesn't want the child, it's a goner - so if takes two then why shouldn't the father have any say in the abortion ?

... should you have to get some kind of temporary vasectomy???

Not that this isn't a good recommendation, but why are you taking the responsibility away from the actual person who gets pregnant ?

i just dont see how its cool to fuck any ol dumb broad and then when shit hits the fan you expect her to come to here senses ... it just doesnt seem realistic to me

This really ain't about a guy not accepting responsibility. It's about the woman, who has the most power, accepting responsibility. I guess you just choose not see that.

its their fault if they fuck with a no good nigga AND its their fault if they fuck wit YOU but you just dont want to live up to your mistakes

No it's their fault that they won't take more responsibility for the power they have. Women are chosen by nature to carry the baby and can do a whole lot to control the situation but don't. You ever heard the expression "Nip it in the bud" ? It has to do with stopping things at the source. To me, the source is the woman - and she has an abundance of ways to stop it. Take some fuckin' responsibility.

 

[desertrain10]

Fixed that for ya.

Even though you're not addressing the topic, I'll respond to this. It may not be realistic because that's not the way it goes down today, but maybe it should. In China, there is supposedly limits to the number of children a family can have. And to address the father not wanting the child, why is that so weird to you ? If the mother doesn't want the child, it's a goner - so if takes two then why shouldn't the father have any say in the abortion ?

Not that this isn't a good recommendation, but why are you taking the responsibility away from the actual person who gets pregnant ?

This really ain't about a guy not accepting responsibility. It's about the woman, who has the most power, accepting responsibility. I guess you just choose not see that.

No it's their fault that they won't take more responsibility for the power they have. Women are chosen by nature to carry the baby and can do a whole lot to control the situation but don't. You ever heard the expression "Nip it in the bud" ? It has to do with stopping things at the source. To me, the source is the woman - and she has an abundance of ways to stop it. Take some fuckin' responsibility.

woman should start making better decisions, but other than that what's ur point? you want the US to become even more of a police state??? how about telling men and women to stop having unprotected sex if he or she is not ready to become a parent????

ok yea women have the power to bring life into this world ... but why side with a man who ultimately gave it to her??? should he be absolved of all responsibility??? if she decides to have it she isn't absolved from responsibility from the child so why should he be?? and wouldn't that hurt children and soceity as a whole more than anything if we didn't ask absentee fathers to be fathers? and why would any man want to force a woman into having a baby anyways... seems like cruel and unusual punishment and no where close to asking a man to pay a small percentage of his monthly salary to help finance his seed

also for every woman who purposely got pregnant looking for a free ride there are two single mothers who had children with their husbands/bfs but were left to raise them alone because he got scared or met another woman.... should we sit back and let these women suffer? or the single fathers and grandmothers who receive support???

 

[UPTOWN]

OK im not on topic LOLOLOLOL

so basically ... if a man doesnt want a child, the female is at fault if the child grows up with out a father. because he clearly said that he doesnt want a kid

i dont agree for various reasons .... but carry on LOL

ill be laughing at yall