Lets be real: the 2000s rappers are starting to die out just like the 90s rappers before them.

[black caesar]

The biggest challenge the new school of artists face is being able to hold their own on songs without hella features. Kendrick has proved this with his last album but others in his class have not. When i think of the 2000's i think about how nelly, luda, 50, kanye, and many other rappers showed how as an artist they could make hits where you knew it was thier song. Even a chingy that had a short lived career or a j kwon with a short mainstream stay showed who they were with limited features.

These new school rappers are subect to juts being side dishes on their own album instead of the main course. Why there is nothing wrong with collabing its starting to be overdone. This era there are guys who give a talented guest verse but cant seem to put together a solid album of their own where they show the world who they really are (and not who the label want's you to think they are).

Agreed, but J. Cole held his first album down by himself for the majority. With Game, Rick Ross and others, it doesn't fell like their albums, but a compilation. I personally feel a rapper has to hold down their first album by themselves.

 

[The Recipe]

Its really irrelevant what age you are or what generation you come from the culture is going to move on, whether it be progressive or not the Drake's, ASAP Rocky's, Wiz Khalifa's, Big Sean's, Rick Ross's, Meek Mill's are going to influence the next generation (including our kids) this is a fact. Our kids are not going to be listening to Pac, Jay Z, Nas, Outkast or UGK.

Hip Hop was made by the youth and is for the Youth niggas have to recognize this fact and deal with it. That Hip Hop elitist shit needs to go, as niggas stand on their soap boxes spewing their hatred for the now generation, they dont even support the niggas that are "Greats" i.e. Nas and Big Boi's album sales. Or take a peek into the Juvenile Mixtape thread and see how much love the Down South legend is getting.http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/486274/juvenile-juvie-tuesdays-mixtape#latest

But I digress.

 

[Stew]

I remember this thread back in the mid 00's. List went like this

Pappoose

Dip Set

Banks

ZRo

Cassidy

Stat Quo

David Banner

I know im missing a few others but u get the point.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The biggest challenge the new school of artists face is being able to hold their own on songs without hella features. Kendrick has proved this with his last album but others in his class have not. When i think of the 2000's i think about how nelly, luda, 50, kanye, and many other rappers showed how as an artist they could make hits where you knew it was thier song. Even a chingy that had a short lived career or a j kwon with a short mainstream stay showed who they were with limited features.

These new school rappers are subect to juts being side dishes on their own album instead of the main course. Why there is nothing wrong with collabing its starting to be overdone. This era there are guys who give a talented guest verse but cant seem to put together a solid album of their own where they show the world who they really are (and not who the label want's you to think they are).

a lot of these guys haven't put out proper major label albums yet out anyway, just mixtapes or free albums or independent albums. and who specifically are you referring to?

Just to name a few:

Wiz

Big Sean

Meek

Ross

2 Chainz

When you think of the overall albums of some of these guys its either forgetable and or relys too much on features to carry them. There are reptitive topics and its hard to play one of their albums front to back. Again many of these artists as you pointed out haven't had more than 1 release. But still i feel like they still have allot to prove not as far as their fame or their crew but being able to hold their own on an album and be like artists of previous era that without features could still make good albums/album tracks.

Wiz has his mixtapes (specifically Kush and OJ and his most recent one)

Sean will deliver

i think despite the features, Ross on Teflon Don and Rich Forever was dope and his best bodies of work

i think you have to include is mixtapes since rappers are giving out free albums and the fact that most of the new school rappers haven't put out proper debuts

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

The biggest challenge the new school of artists face is being able to hold their own on songs without hella features. Kendrick has proved this with his last album but others in his class have not. When i think of the 2000's i think about how nelly, luda, 50, kanye, and many other rappers showed how as an artist they could make hits where you knew it was thier song. Even a chingy that had a short lived career or a j kwon with a short mainstream stay showed who they were with limited features.

These new school rappers are subect to juts being side dishes on their own album instead of the main course. Why there is nothing wrong with collabing its starting to be overdone. This era there are guys who give a talented guest verse but cant seem to put together a solid album of their own where they show the world who they really are (and not who the label want's you to think they are).

Agreed, but J. Cole held his first album down by himself for the majority. With Game, Rick Ross and others, it doesn't fell like their albums, but a compilation. I personally feel a rapper has to hold down their first album by themselves.

im 50/50 with coles first album he took that risk and held down his first album....at the same time i don't listen to it as much as i used to all the way through maybe a rise and shine on the jog playlist or a sideline story or nice watch in the whip but i dunno sometimes i think his mixtapes are better.

But i do wish more rappers did what kendrick just did and make an album you can listen through with some touches of features but mostly you.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

lmfao at naming Nas tho cmon

 

[P. Town]

LMAO. Papoose used to be the 2nd Coming of New York Jesus back in the early 2000s

 

[Zigefresh]

LMAO. Papoose used to be the 2nd Coming of New York Jesus back in the early 2000s

and Saigon too. lol.

 

[High Revolutionary]

lmfao at naming Nas tho cmon

Damn near 20 years in the game and he's still ripping it and putting up decent numbers. Life is good will be gold by next year.

What other artist in his class can say that?

 

[King Lee]

Lol at you niggas counting out 50, Tip, and the rest of these vets. They might be diminishing returns, but they still doing respectable numbers in this climate.

 

[Wild Self]

The problem is that the new rappers don't like to take risk outside of the norm or like to do something else. They rap about money and bitches and just stay there for as long as they can. If you think that Big Sean or Wiz Khalifa can stay relevant for over 3-4 albums, you gotta be fooling yourself. No comedy rap, very little introspective rap, and virtually no socially conscious rap makes much of the 2010s Hip Hop very stale and predictable.

The 00s rappers like Luda, TI, Jeezy, etc. are hanging on by a thread.

 

[The Recipe]

Lol at you niggas counting out 50, Tip, and the rest of these vets. They might be diminishing returns, but they still doing respectable numbers in this climate.

Its not about counting them out its about being honest with your self, niggas aint checked for 50 musically since Curtis and that's real shit. Before I self Destruct Movie >>>>>>> Album. On the other hand TI has proved his staying power beyond sales by dropping a really dope album.

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

The problem is that the new rappers don't like to take risk outside of the norm or like to do something else. They rap about money and bitches and just stay there for as long as they can. If you think that Big Sean or Wiz Khalifa can stay relevant for over 3-4 albums, you gotta be fooling yourself. No comedy rap, very little introspective rap, and virtually no socially conscious rap makes much of the 2010s Hip Hop very stale and predictable.

The 00s rappers like Luda, TI, Jeezy, etc. are hanging on by a thread.

you preaching tho every nigga talking about how they doin something different but its the same conftorable safe music that got them discovered/buzz.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

The problem is that the new rappers don't like to take risk outside of the norm or like to do something else. They rap about money and bitches and just stay there for as long as they can. If you think that Big Sean or Wiz Khalifa can stay relevant for over 3-4 albums, you gotta be fooling yourself. No comedy rap, very little introspective rap, and virtually no socially conscious rap makes much of the 2010s Hip Hop very stale and predictable.

The 00s rappers like Luda, TI, Jeezy, etc. are hanging on by a thread.

Big Sean will last

Wiz Khalifa will always be somewhat relevant due to his huge fanbase

 

[King Lee]

Lol at you niggas counting out 50, Tip, and the rest of these vets. They might be diminishing returns, but they still doing respectable numbers in this climate.

Its not about counting them out its about being honest with your self, niggas aint checked for 50 musically since Curtis and that's real shit. Before I self Destruct Movie >>>>>>> Album. On the other hand TI has proved his staying power beyond sales by dropping a really dope album.

I can't deny that ever since the whites flocked to Kanye in 07 Fif has had a decline mainstream wise, but to say 50 can't deliver an album beyond sales is something I strongly disagree with.

 

[StoneColdMikey]

lmfao at naming Nas tho cmon

Damn near 20 years in the game and he's still ripping it and putting up decent numbers. Life is good will be gold by next year.

What other artist in his class can say that?

50 cent and tip could put up the same numbers he put up but he has them as them as the rappers that are dying out. then he has nas in the same list as jay wayne and ye. he not even close to selling like them but i do agree tho he still doing his thing

 

[The Recipe]

Lol at you niggas counting out 50, Tip, and the rest of these vets. They might be diminishing returns, but they still doing respectable numbers in this climate.

Its not about counting them out its about being honest with your self, niggas aint checked for 50 musically since Curtis and that's real shit. Before I self Destruct Movie >>>>>>> Album. On the other hand TI has proved his staying power beyond sales by dropping a really dope album.

I can't deny that ever since the whites flocked to Kanye in 07 Fif has had a decline mainstream wise, but to say 50 can't deliver an album beyond sales is something I strongly disagree with.

Fuck mainstream appeal, lets focus on quality projects. 50's music has been on a decline ever since GRODT. Can he deliver another great album? I surely can not tell the future but I can look back @ history and history shows that artist do not drop multiple turds consecutively and then drop a classic after said turds.

 

[twizza 77]

Thats why rappers would benefit by dropping albums every few years instead of every 6 months.

 

[Wild Self]

The problem is that the new rappers don't like to take risk outside of the norm or like to do something else. They rap about money and bitches and just stay there for as long as they can. If you think that Big Sean or Wiz Khalifa can stay relevant for over 3-4 albums, you gotta be fooling yourself. No comedy rap, very little introspective rap, and virtually no socially conscious rap makes much of the 2010s Hip Hop very stale and predictable.

The 00s rappers like Luda, TI, Jeezy, etc. are hanging on by a thread.

you preaching tho every nigga talking about how they doin something different but its the same conftorable safe music that got them discovered/buzz.

N that shit will make him to another Nelly or Ja Rule.

 

[King Lee]

Lol at you niggas counting out 50, Tip, and the rest of these vets. They might be diminishing returns, but they still doing respectable numbers in this climate.

Its not about counting them out its about being honest with your self, niggas aint checked for 50 musically since Curtis and that's real shit. Before I self Destruct Movie >>>>>>> Album. On the other hand TI has proved his staying power beyond sales by dropping a really dope album.

I can't deny that ever since the whites flocked to Kanye in 07 Fif has had a decline mainstream wise, but to say 50 can't deliver an album beyond sales is something I strongly disagree with.

Fuck mainstream appeal, lets focus on quality projects. 50's music has been on a decline ever since GRODT. Can he deliver another great album? I surely can not tell the future but I can look back @ history and history shows that artist do not drop multiple turds consecutively and then drop a classic after said turds.

Lol Dropping turds nigga please, 50 invested so much into his music and his imprint(GRODTOST, G Unit Radio Series, His own Artists). There's countless records he's written that are QUALITY. He drops The Massacre which was actually a dope album(if he put Hate it or Love it on it oh lawd), Curtis had some cuts overall was a setback, and BISD was solid. You tellin me an artist of his caliber can't make a return with a dope album? What was Tip doing the last few years building his own artists or keeping himself afloat?