Lebron on Jordan - "He gets too much credit for his 6 rings"

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Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.
 
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TheBoyRo;9290670 said:
Ether44mag;9290267 said:
TheBoyRo;9288704 said:
That's on fans giving him so much credit for 6 rings. For some stupid reason, some NBA fans thing Jordan did everything to win those rings. Kinda helps when u had one of the top rebounders, defenders, coaches, and a good bench on ur side. Jordan was the main reason why the bills won 6 rings, but not the only reason

Best rebounder ? are you forgetting Jordan Won 3 rings before Rodman arrived ????? why every lebron fan only wants to talk about those 3 rings but never the first ones ? Good bench ????? where ?????????name the good bench ? other than Toni kukoc and kerr everyone else was a bum

Lol I'm not a lebron fan. I like watching him play but I'm not a diehard fan. I was obviously talking about his last 3 titles. He still had great players around him the first 3 peat.

Great players ??????????????? wtf man ???? other than pippen name those GREAT players smh thats the dumbest shit I heard man Great players on his first 3peat ????????????????????????? please name em !!!
 
D. Morgan;9291385 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.

i was going to drop a bunch of stats but the nigga won the all-star game mvp the season jordan left how is he not a star he won an award for being a star player in an all-star game
 
Ghostdenithegawd;9291395 said:
D. Morgan;9291385 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.

i was going to drop a bunch of stats but the nigga won the all-star game mvp the season jordan left how is he not a star he won an award for being a star player in an all-star game

pippen was a star but not a superstar he could never LEAD a team to a chip he on the level of Bosh but not as good as Wade for example
 
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Ether44mag;9291390 said:
TheBoyRo;9290670 said:
Ether44mag;9290267 said:
TheBoyRo;9288704 said:
That's on fans giving him so much credit for 6 rings. For some stupid reason, some NBA fans thing Jordan did everything to win those rings. Kinda helps when u had one of the top rebounders, defenders, coaches, and a good bench on ur side. Jordan was the main reason why the bills won 6 rings, but not the only reason

Best rebounder ? are you forgetting Jordan Won 3 rings before Rodman arrived ????? why every lebron fan only wants to talk about those 3 rings but never the first ones ? Good bench ????? where ?????????name the good bench ? other than Toni kukoc and kerr everyone else was a bum

Lol I'm not a lebron fan. I like watching him play but I'm not a diehard fan. I was obviously talking about his last 3 titles. He still had great players around him the first 3 peat.

Great players ??????????????? wtf man ???? other than pippen name those GREAT players smh thats the dumbest shit I heard man Great players on his first 3peat ????????????????????????? please name em !!!

Smh good players. Better now?
 
Ether44mag;9291414 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291395 said:
D. Morgan;9291385 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.

i was going to drop a bunch of stats but the nigga won the all-star game mvp the season jordan left how is he not a star he won an award for being a star player in an all-star game

pippen was a star but not a superstar he could never LEAD a team to a chip he on the level of Bosh but not as good as Wade for example

that logic makes 0 sense mike aint get a chip until pippen came so mike wasn't a star?

the nigga filled just about every stats possible was a top defender and still led a bum bulls team to playoffs with 55 wins that season smfh
 
TheBoyRo;9291417 said:
Ether44mag;9291390 said:
TheBoyRo;9290670 said:
Ether44mag;9290267 said:
TheBoyRo;9288704 said:
That's on fans giving him so much credit for 6 rings. For some stupid reason, some NBA fans thing Jordan did everything to win those rings. Kinda helps when u had one of the top rebounders, defenders, coaches, and a good bench on ur side. Jordan was the main reason why the bills won 6 rings, but not the only reason

Best rebounder ? are you forgetting Jordan Won 3 rings before Rodman arrived ????? why every lebron fan only wants to talk about those 3 rings but never the first ones ? Good bench ????? where ?????????name the good bench ? other than Toni kukoc and kerr everyone else was a bum

Lol I'm not a lebron fan. I like watching him play but I'm not a diehard fan. I was obviously talking about his last 3 titles. He still had great players around him the first 3 peat.

Great players ??????????????? wtf man ???? other than pippen name those GREAT players smh thats the dumbest shit I heard man Great players on his first 3peat ????????????????????????? please name em !!!

Smh good players. Better now?

By good players you mean Grant ? cause he the only one who qualifies as a good player after jordan and pippen the rest were bums except for BJ Armstrong who became good on the 3rd chip! Dellavedova SHITS on Paxson ,both tristan thompson and Mozgov shit on Cartwright...and the rest you want me to name em ? hahaha ,cliff levingston hahaha ,stacey king hahahaha ,craig hodges hahahaha ,scott williams hahahahahahah,dennis hopson hahahahahahahahahahah

please NOBODY in the history of the nba won with a lesser team than MJ on that FIRST 3peat bulls team
 
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BOSSExcellence;9291173 said:
all i know is when LeBron leaves teams they dont make the playoffs..

when Jordan leaves they make it to the eastern conference finals..

jus sayin..

made the second round...

and yeah of course after winning 3 straight chips you take one star out they still have enough confidence to play well

 
Ghostdenithegawd;9291395 said:
D. Morgan;9291385 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.

i was going to drop a bunch of stats but the nigga won the all-star game mvp the season jordan left how is he not a star he won an award for being a star player in an all-star game

You serious?!?!? It's a damn exhibition game I can't believe you posted that nonsense.Name PLAYOFF games pippen dominated

We saw wade do that wit lebron,kyrie do that wit lebron,kobe do that wit shaq.Show me playoff games where pippen took over with jordan there that's what stars do
 
Ether44mag;9291445 said:
BOSSExcellence;9291173 said:
all i know is when LeBron leaves teams they dont make the playoffs..

when Jordan leaves they make it to the eastern conference finals..

jus sayin..

made the second round...

and yeah of course after winning 3 straight chips you take one star out they still have enough confidence to play well

besides the point..

Miami went to 4straight championships..

won 2..

LeBron leaves they miss the playoffs..

in Cleveland he led his team to the Championship and the ECFs on numerous occassions..

he leaves they get 1st pick 3 out of 5 seasons or some shit..

so back to what i was sayin..

U niggas gove Jordan too much credit..

and i only say too much is cause u niggas try and negate any and everything that was around Jordan as if he was the only muthafucka on that court and that wasnt the case..

in the 80s when the pistons was beatin his ass yall dont never mention the ramifications of that.. that ushered in a NEW Jordan rule.. the "u bet not touch him" rule... same way the NFL changed the rules everytime Payton Manning got beat..

i can tell some of u niggas nevwr played sports..

u can have the best player the most talented team but if they dont play as one they dont win and that comes from coaching.. Phil Jackson came wit the Triangle Offense.. a system that won 11 fuckin titles.. and yall go only give Jordan credit for the 6 he won under that system when before he was the greatest player on one of the worst team!!?

u niggas trippin!

u give LeBron a Pippen and Phil or a Shaq and Phil or a Gasol and Bynum wit oerimeter shooters like Paxton Kerr Fish and Horry and this shit aint even fair.. he wouldnt see a game 7 either..

yeh Jordan is the greatest but u niggas is puttin 20 on the 10..
 
Jordan has the ultimate hand with the 6/6 as the best player. No other player can really touch him with statements like Bron made here.
 
R0mp;9291888 said:
Jordan has the ultimate hand with the 6/6 as the best player. No other player can really touch him with statements like Bron made here.

Bill Russell would like to have a word wit u..
 
Ghostdenithegawd;9291426 said:
Ether44mag;9291414 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291395 said:
D. Morgan;9291385 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9291372 said:
Tommy bilfiger;9290860 said:
Ghostdenithegawd;9290748 said:
All the kobe fans that hate me got pissued about this i feel bad for pippen niggas is getting less and less shine over the years

He in the hall of fame and was named top 50 man.He gets plenty of recognition matter of fact he gets TOO much shine

I've seen dudes say they'd take pippen over larry bird which is laughable.Pippen was a solid complimentary player not this potential franchise sf nostalgia leads people to believe

pippen was another star player that complementary thing is disrespectful

Pippen was a lil more than a complementary player but he wasn't a star player. I know the shit is weird but it is what it is. Stars you trying to build around nobody was doing that with Pippen.

i was going to drop a bunch of stats but the nigga won the all-star game mvp the season jordan left how is he not a star he won an award for being a star player in an all-star game

pippen was a star but not a superstar he could never LEAD a team to a chip he on the level of Bosh but not as good as Wade for example

that logic makes 0 sense mike aint get a chip until pippen came so mike wasn't a star?

the nigga filled just about every stats possible was a top defender and still led a bum bulls team to playoffs with 55 wins that season smfh

You're embarrassing yourself in this thread.How were they a bum team when they were the 3 time defending champs?
 
BOSSExcellence;9291906 said:
R0mp;9291888 said:
Jordan has the ultimate hand with the 6/6 as the best player. No other player can really touch him with statements like Bron made here.

Bill Russell would like to have a word wit u..

i love the nba but jordan would of went 8/8 if not for retirement and russell? i laugh cause he played against white boys. he was playing against 5'10" niggaZ. if you cant beat them niggaZ and you 6'11" then you just weak
 
BOSSExcellence;9291883 said:
Ether44mag;9291445 said:
BOSSExcellence;9291173 said:
all i know is when LeBron leaves teams they dont make the playoffs..

when Jordan leaves they make it to the eastern conference finals..

jus sayin..

made the second round...

and yeah of course after winning 3 straight chips you take one star out they still have enough confidence to play well

besides the point..

Miami went to 4straight championships..

won 2..

LeBron leaves they miss the playoffs..

in Cleveland he led his team to the Championship and the ECFs on numerous occassions..

he leaves they get 1st pick 3 out of 5 seasons or some shit..

so back to what i was sayin..

U niggas gove Jordan too much credit..

and i only say too much is cause u niggas try and negate any and everything that was around Jordan as if he was the only muthafucka on that court and that wasnt the case..

in the 80s when the pistons was beatin his ass yall dont never mention the ramifications of that.. that ushered in a NEW Jordan rule.. the "u bet not touch him" rule... same way the NFL changed the rules everytime Payton Manning got beat..

i can tell some of u niggas nevwr played sports..

u can have the best player the most talented team but if they dont play as one they dont win and that comes from coaching.. Phil Jackson came wit the Triangle Offense.. a system that won 11 fuckin titles.. and yall go only give Jordan credit for the 6 he won under that system when before he was the greatest player on one of the worst team!!?

u niggas trippin!

u give LeBron a Pippen and Phil or a Shaq and Phil or a Gasol and Bynum wit oerimeter shooters like Paxton Kerr Fish and Horry and this shit aint even fair.. he wouldnt see a game 7 either..

yeh Jordan is the greatest but u niggas is puttin 20 on the 10..

you the stupidest nigga alive, watch me show you

first off you talked about how the Heat missed the playoffs after lebron left without mentioning that Bosh was injured and only played 44 games while Wade played 62 and that Ray allen and shane battier were not on the team anymore so there you go

and second of all ...damn you stupid...you said if Lebron had Pippen with shooters like Kerr or fish or Horry it wouldnt be fair ???? NIGGA ! what the fuck is Wade ,Bosh ,Ray allen ,shane battier,mike miller Rashard lewis and james jones ??? Ray allen and mike miller are much better better shooters than all the guys you mentionned smh...

Come correct when talkin bball with me man I come with logic and facts
 
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Still havent heard a valid argument against:

"Lebron leaves his teams, they cant even make the playoffs"

"Jordan left his teams they still compete in the playoffs"

Does this or does it not mean Jordan had the better teams around him?
 
Ether44mag;9292457 said:
BOSSExcellence;9291883 said:
Ether44mag;9291445 said:
BOSSExcellence;9291173 said:
all i know is when LeBron leaves teams they dont make the playoffs..

when Jordan leaves they make it to the eastern conference finals..

jus sayin..

made the second round...

and yeah of course after winning 3 straight chips you take one star out they still have enough confidence to play well

besides the point..

Miami went to 4straight championships..

won 2..

LeBron leaves they miss the playoffs..

in Cleveland he led his team to the Championship and the ECFs on numerous occassions..

he leaves they get 1st pick 3 out of 5 seasons or some shit..

so back to what i was sayin..

U niggas gove Jordan too much credit..

and i only say too much is cause u niggas try and negate any and everything that was around Jordan as if he was the only muthafucka on that court and that wasnt the case..

in the 80s when the pistons was beatin his ass yall dont never mention the ramifications of that.. that ushered in a NEW Jordan rule.. the "u bet not touch him" rule... same way the NFL changed the rules everytime Payton Manning got beat..

i can tell some of u niggas nevwr played sports..

u can have the best player the most talented team but if they dont play as one they dont win and that comes from coaching.. Phil Jackson came wit the Triangle Offense.. a system that won 11 fuckin titles.. and yall go only give Jordan credit for the 6 he won under that system when before he was the greatest player on one of the worst team!!?

u niggas trippin!

u give LeBron a Pippen and Phil or a Shaq and Phil or a Gasol and Bynum wit oerimeter shooters like Paxton Kerr Fish and Horry and this shit aint even fair.. he wouldnt see a game 7 either..

yeh Jordan is the greatest but u niggas is puttin 20 on the 10..

you the stupidest nigga alive, watch me show you

first off you talked about how the Heat missed the playoffs after lebron left without mentioning that Bosh was injured and only played 44 games while Wade played 62 and that Ray allen and shane battier were not on the team anymore so there you go

and second of all ...damn you stupid...you said if Lebron had Pippen with shooters like Kerr or fish or Horry it wouldnt be fair ???? NIGGA ! what the fuck is Wade ,Bosh ,Ray allen ,shane battier,mike miller Rashard lewis and james jones ??? Ray allen and mike miller are much better better shooters than all the guys you mentionned smh...

Come correct when talkin bball with me man I come with logic and facts

lol ur an idiot..

i wanna say moreso then Tommy but this my first time reading ur post..

come wot logic when u talkin to me boy..

keep ur feelings out of this. lol
 
Gotta look at nuance with the Jordan teams after he left vs Bron.

Those Bulls teams pretty much stayed the same and healthy when Mike was gone.

The heat missing the playoffs is fugazi. Wade missed 20 games, Bosh half the year. They would've been a playoff squad if not for injuries.

10-11 Cavs more so was a what you saw was what it was. They just really lost a role player Shaq and Big Z. Mo Will gets traded midway.

But like I said this one you can really look at, the Heat falling off to no playoffs is circumstantial not just black and white.
 
BDBIID;9292663 said:
Gotta look at nuance with the Jordan teams after he left vs Bron.

Those Bulls teams pretty much stayed the same and healthy when Mike was gone.

The heat missing the playoffs is fugazi. Wade missed 20 games, Bosh half the year. They would've been a playoff squad if not for injuries.

10-11 Cavs more so was a what you saw was what it was. They just really lost a role player Shaq and Big Z. Mo Will gets traded midway.

But like I said this one you can really look at, the Heat falling off to no playoffs is circumstantial not just black and white.

Wade was missin games when LeBron was there..

and Bosh was gettin injured as well..

so try again..
 

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