Lebron calls Phil Jackson racist for calling his entourage "his posse"

[atribecalledgabi]

I'm still confused by this story. Did Phil say it using an example or was he saying (or paraphrasing) what pat riley said?

Either way, the word posse isn't racist. However, it was used to diminish/belittle what lebron wanted in the situation. It's like when somebody in your family doesn't like your s/o so they say "your little gf/bf" instead of addressing them by name or just saying your bf/gf...the "little" is a jab.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i hope people can think clearly abut this....

please overlook the teams he lead to championships. thats doesnt mean hes not recist....he was doing his job. the black players were chess pieces.

would a white person with childhood friends be considered his posse

 

[D0wn]

I'm still confused by this story. Did Phil say it using an example or was he saying (or paraphrasing) what pat riley said?



Either way, the word posse isn't racist. However, it was used to diminish/belittle what lebron wanted in the situation. It's like when somebody in your family doesn't like your s/o so they say "your little gf/bf" instead of addressing them by name or just saying your bf/gf...the "little" is a jab.

Its about how the word is used, cause peep, the word nigger is not a racist word. Its a word that means ignorant , but guess what?

 

[Maximus Rex]

Phil Jackson is a racist, but The Star Spangled Banner isn't? How is LeBron going to have the nerve to check Phil Jackson, then on a nightly basis pay homage to a song which celebrates suppressing the freedom of black people that was written by a racist white supremacist slave owner?

 

[playmaker88]

Reach.... he probably meant to needle him because phil like to play mindgames.. but Lebron aint have shit to say bout Tamir.. he had to read up on it.. Yet his feathers were ruffled because Phil disrespected him.. Posse has never been one of those words.. But the way the word works.. it will be indue time.. youll here it more often and in THAT Context.. While he wouldnt have called Larry Birds people a posse.. I think Lebron is reaching and just flexing his muscles.. he is sensitive and always has been.. Phil knew what he was doing no doubt hecause he knew the slight would irk him.

 

[Max.]

Corny

 

[D0wn]

There's no such things as "good words" or "bad words" theyre just words.

However the connotations of a word is based on how it's used.

 

[soul rattler]

Change the thread title.

LeBron never called Phil a racist. Phil being a racist never entered the conversation. All LeBron said was that it goes to show how much further African American men have to go in being perceived in America.

Every black man has a story to tell about the "micro aggressions" thrown at them. I'm a fucking manager and I had a new white coworker tell me I'm "such a snazzy dresser" for wearing a shirt and tie yesterday. That's that shit they wouldn't even utter to someone of their own race.

 

[Already Home_17]

misleading thread title

 

[TheGOAT]

Change the thread title.

LeBron never called Phil a racist. Phil being a racist never entered the conversation. All LeBron said was that it goes to show how much further African American men have to go in being perceived in America.

Every black man has a story to tell about the "micro aggressions" thrown at them. I'm a fucking manager and I had a new white coworker tell me I'm "such a snazzy dresser" for wearing a shirt and tie yesterday. That's that shit they wouldn't even utter to someone of their own race.

He def implied it

Lebron the one who said phil only said it bcuz he was refering to "black people tyn to make a difference"

 

[TheGOAT]

i hope people can think clearly abut this....

please overlook the teams he lead to championships. thats doesnt mean hes not recist....he was doing his job. the black players were chess pieces.

would a white person with childhood friends be considered his posse

A Whole List of White Posses

http://m.ranker.com/list/celebrity-friend-groups/jacob-shelton

 

[dwade206]

Cops killing kids in Cleveland with impunity...silence

Phil calls him out for having a posse...responds immediately.

Please ignore his fake outrage.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I heard about this on the Breakfast Club and I can't believe it's an issue. Since when has posse ever been used as some kind of racist term? They broke it down and it seems the Lebron's manager and whoever else are the ones that find it disrespectful. They believe they deserve to be referred to as more than a posse since they have actual roles in Lebron's organization. Lebron just threw the race issue in because for some reason that's what a lot of blacks do whenever they feel disrespected by a white person for any reason.

The thing that confuses me though, is people are talking about Phil and saying Phil is racist, but Phil wasn't even speaking from his perspective. He was saying that that was Pat Riley's sentiment. And Riley wasn't even there, so he doesn't know which individuals were there. He just knew LeBron was ignoring team rules and choosing to do his own thing. This is why I hate giving celebrities any kind of importance when it comes to real issues. There are real honest to god acts of racism committed every day that have real effects on people's lives. And this dude wants to invoke the term because a couple people weren't happy with him being a diva.

 

[babelipsss]

Why was Lebrons mom there?

 

[AZTG]

Lebron has the right to be feel disrespected. If im a grown man making millions and my peoples are making millions, id he pissed to have them brushed aside too. Like yo wtf you mean they just a posse we making millions.

With that said, id be pissed because dude was looking down on me and my friends, not cause it was racist. I honestly dont see how this is racist.

Lebron just wanted to shift the conversation away of him being seen as a selfish dude that'll try to frece the whole team with 15 teammates, coaches, trainers etc... in cleveland just because he wanted too cause he tries hard to build an image of being all about the team.

Lebron played the race card. In a way, its well played. Nobody talking about Lebron wanting special treatment. In another way, its kinda fucked up cause there are legit racist things going on that affect peoples lives in a real way that will be overlooked because of this.

 

[soul rattler]

Change the thread title.

LeBron never called Phil a racist. Phil being a racist never entered the conversation. All LeBron said was that it goes to show how much further African American men have to go in being perceived in America.

Every black man has a story to tell about the "micro aggressions" thrown at them. I'm a fucking manager and I had a new white coworker tell me I'm "such a snazzy dresser" for wearing a shirt and tie yesterday. That's that shit they wouldn't even utter to someone of their own race.

He def implied it

Lebron the one who said phil only said it bcuz he was refering to "black people tyn to make a difference"

No, there's a difference between intent and implication.

Phil wasn't making a remark on how wealthy black men are nothing but boys with money but his use of the word shows what his underlying perception of LeBron is.

I think this is moreso of matter of how people look at active black athletes. As long as you're in the league, they'll dismiss anything you do as being young, dumb, and ignorant. That way, they don't have to hold you to a higher standard of conduct or listen to you when you speak on issues other than sports. That's where that "stay in your lane" shit comes from. As long as they get to look at you like a boy, they don't have to look at you like a man.

 

[AZTG]

He didn't call him a racist. He said that the comment would not have been made, absent of race.... which it wouldn't have. You'd never hear him say "John Stockton and his CREW is holding everybody up."

Id agree with you but we talking about the NBA. There are only a handful players with the power to hold a team up and a whiteboy hasnt been one of them handful of players since teams got private planes and shit. So idk. There is really no precedent to compare too.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i hope people can think clearly abut this....

please overlook the teams he lead to championships. thats doesnt mean hes not recist....he was doing his job. the black players were chess pieces.

would a white person with childhood friends be considered his posse

A Whole List of White Posses

http://m.ranker.com/list/celebrity-friend-groups/jacob-shelton

in this statement is sounds like what usually happenes...which is ...a negative spin put on black peoples freinds and positive wanna hang out put on white peoples friends

 

[soul rattler]

I heard about this on the Breakfast Club and I can't believe it's an issue. Since when has posse ever been used as some kind of racist term? They broke it down and it seems the Lebron's manager and whoever else are the ones that find it disrespectful. They believe they deserve to be referred to as more than a posse since they have actual roles in Lebron's organization. Lebron just threw the race issue in because for some reason that's what a lot of blacks do whenever they feel disrespected by a white person for any reason.

It's not the word, it's the implication.

Remember when Obama first ran for president in 08 and they called Michelle his "baby mama" and Jeremiah Wright his "homeboy"?

Baby mama and homeboy aren't inherently racist terms but the application in those instances implies an undertone of racist sentiment.