Kevin Kolb has a concussion....welcome to The Michael Vick Show

[The Lonious Monk]

Vick gets way too much hate. If Jake Delhomme can go straight from one of the shittiest seasons ever by a starting QB straight to another starting job, Vick deserves all the accolades he gets.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I'm not using outlierss. I was saying that wasn't a scenario to say who's the better QB. But they would lose..look at Pats superbowl when Brady's line wasn't blocking for him, and Colts vs Chargers used to always have peyton beat cuz they stayed putting pressure on him. And i'm not necessarily sayin Kolb over Vick. I'm sayin Vick hasn't done enuff to prove himself as the clear starter. But putting in Vick for Kolb cuz of the shitty line isn't a good idea because you're not fixing your problem...you're just trying to dodge it. They need to work on the offensive line.

But like I was saying about game planning. The D line for Kolb rushes in hard and makes him move, trying to apply pressure. For Vick you play contain, and don't let him break to the outside on you. Packers played right into his hands. Let's give teams time to analyze Vick's play, and know he's gonna be starting before we talk about how great he is.

ok but that's football. If you can't block the d line your qb will suffer. If you can't run block your rb can't make an impact. If you can't beat the corner your receivers won't make plays. All you're telling me is cause and effect. You're leaving out the part where Kolb was sucking. Not only that but you're leaving out the past history of the Eagles organization handing him the keys on a silver platter.

So another question I would ask you is, what has Kolb done to be named the official starter of the Eagles.....

 

[traestar]

Facts:

-Kevin Kolb was never giving the Eagles a better chance to win that Donovan
-He is Unproven
-He was handed the keys to the car with a proper test drive
-He doesnt give you a better chance on any given play than Vick
-Vick wins games..

and Vick had it in back of head .. to be what they want him to be rathe than wha he is.. on that play he could have ran into the endzone

Word up, game was winnable hands down

 

[5th Letter]

ok but that's football. If you can't block the d line your qb will suffer. If you can't run block your rb can't make an impact. If you can't beat the corner your receivers won't make plays. All you're telling me is cause and effect. You're leaving out the part where Kolb was sucking. Not only that but you're leaving out the past history of the Eagles organization handing him the keys on a silver platter.

So another question I would ask you is, what has Kolb done to be named the official starter of the Eagles.....

he threw for 300 yards in ONE game last season. After that Eagles knew they had their man.

But on a serious note they were expecting Kolb to breakout like Aaron Rodgers.

 

[DarcSkies]

Reid seems certain to bring Kolb back as soon as he's healthy enough to play again. Too bad. I BEEN saying that Vick is the guy who needs to be our starter.

I don't remember the exact details, but the final game we played last season, I know Vick came in for a drive and looked great. And today, he came in and looked amazing. Whether people wanna accept it or not, we have seen the new Mike Vick, and he's still a great QB.

Unfortunately, the Eagles have invested a lot into building their offense around Kolb as the new QB, and they seem to be too bought into him to change gears, at least yet. The other issue I could see is that, at age 30, Vick's double-threat as a lighting-fast runner can't keep up for more than a couple years. With all they've put into Kolb, I dunno if they'll bench the dude, putting his future with the franchise at risk, only to see Vick lose his edge in the next season or two and be left with nothing.

But I still say FUCK ALL OF THAT. This is the NFL. It's the highest level of the sport. The ultimate meritocracy. Doesn't matter how much they've invested in their plan for Kolb. That shit don't seem to be working, and letting Vick take the lead IS working. Do what works, not just what you thought was gonna work.

Not to mention, THIS IS PHILADELPHIA after all. If Vick keeps showing that he's got the right stuff, they'll boo the hell out of Kolb when he returns. I feel bad for the guy, but that's the reality in Philly.

who was it that said, "Philly people boo the sun when it comes up."

 

[R.D.]

Is it just me or does it seem like them niggas on the Eagles play harder for Vick than they do for Kolb?

At the end of the day McNabb is the big winner as of now.

They gotta young team so alot of them was in high school or college and watched Vick do all the things he did, so they probably naturally have more respect for him than the unproven Kolb

 

[playmaker88]

it kind of instill confidence in your team.. when you know you have someone that can do anything at any given time..

 

[bow to royalty]

ok but that's football. If you can't block the d line your qb will suffer. If you can't run block your rb can't make an impact. If you can't beat the corner your receivers won't make plays. All you're telling me is cause and effect. You're leaving out the part where Kolb was sucking. Not only that but you're leaving out the past history of the Eagles organization handing him the keys on a silver platter.

So another question I would ask you is, what has Kolb done to be named the official starter of the Eagles.....

That's what I'm saying..you can't blame the QB on a bad game when his line is lettin him get slaughtered. I'm guessing that Kolb has shown more in practices than Vick has and that's why Reid picked him. I doubt they practice weak O-Line scenarios. I don't think all teams are scared to sit someone they drafted early, but I do think every team wants to put their best chance of winning out on the field.

 

[Imaginary Playaz]

All I know is Desean Jackson better try to get his contract extension done this week. If the line can't protect Kolb and give him time to throw Desean's numbers are gonna drop. And if Vick ends up starting Desean's numbers are def gonna drop because of Vick's tendency to bring the ball down and run and the way he struggles with timing routes. Either was Desean is gonna struggle to get the ball this season. The thinking with Kolb was that his quick release was gonna be able to hit jackson in stride and let him do his thing after the catch. Def didn't happen yesterday from Kolb or Vick

 

[tru_m.a.c]

That's what I'm saying..you can't blame the QB on a bad game when his line is lettin him get slaughtered. I'm guessing that Kolb has shown more in practices than Vick has and that's why Reid picked him.

So I guess Kolb outperformed McNabb in practice too...

But on a serious note they were expecting Kolb to breakout like Aaron Rodgers.

Ding ding. Thank you! They rated Kolb's potential based on another players success. Not on his absolute talent. Which unfortunately many teams do.

I don't think all teams are scared to sit someone they drafted early, but I do think every team wants to put their best chance of winning out on the field.

Really...what's your favorite team? You telling me you can't spot at least one instance of favoritism in the past 3 yrs with your squad?

49ers - Alex Smith
Packers - Justin Harrell
Cardinals - Matt Leinart (it took em 4 yrs to realize dude never developed)

It's a fact that the higher up on the board you're drafted, the more chances you get to fuck up. My entire premise is that Kolb will have to play like Jamarcus Russell and Vick will have to play faultless like Tom Brady in order for a change at QB.

 

[bow to royalty]

So I guess Kolb outperformed McNabb in practice too...

Ding ding. Thank you! They rated Kolb's potential based on another players success. Not on his absolute talent. Which unfortunately many teams do.

Really...what's your favorite team? You telling me you can't spot at least one instance of favoritism in the past 3 yrs with your squad?

49ers - Alex Smith
Packers - Justin Harrell
Cardinals - Matt Leinart (it took em 4 yrs to realize dude never developed)

It's a fact that the higher up on the board you're drafted, the more chances you get to fuck up. My entire premise is that Kolb will have to play like Jamarcus Russell and Vick will have to play faultless like Tom Brady in order for a change at QB.

Mcnabb started when he was there. Not Kolb, so no. But the Eagles had Mcnabb for yaers and felt he couldn't get over the hump. So, they said it's time to move on.

I'm a Bucs fan. Cut Dexter Jackson (2nd round), coach came out and publicly said that if Gaines Adams (1st round) didn't have a double digit sack season than he's a bust. He wasn't on pace to get it so we traded him to the Bears (R.I.P. to Gaines). Michael Clayton (1st round) got cut this year. And Leinart's a bad example...they let Kurt Warner start. Not like the stuck with him as the starter whenever he was healthy.

 

[R.D.]

Mcnabb started when he was there. Not Kolb, so no. But the Eagles had Mcnabb for yaers and felt he couldn't get over the hump. So, they said it's time to move on.

I'm a Bucs fan. Cut Dexter Jackson (2nd round), coach came out and publicly said that if Gaines Adams (1st round) didn't have a double digit sack season than he's a bust. He wasn't on pace to get it so we traded him to the Bears (R.I.P. to Gaines). Michael Clayton (1st round) got cut this year. And Leinart's a bad example...they let Kurt Warner start. Not like the stuck with him as the starter whenever he was healthy.

sports aint your thing, huh??

 

[bow to royalty]

sports aint your thing, huh??

explain

.....

 

[tru_m.a.c]

explain

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all your examples were bad ones. I'll point out the biggest one, Michael Clayton. He received a huge contract extension did he not when he was only able to dominate for one year. You are arguing a non arguable point. GM's and coaches like to play "their guys." This is a fact my dude.

And you just pointed out how Kolb starting makes no sense.

Mcnabb started when he was there. Not Kolb, so no. But the Eagles had Mcnabb for yaers and felt he couldn't get over the hump. So, they said it's time to move on.

How does this make sense. I'ma break down the ridiculousness of your logic.

McNabb took the Eagles to the playoffs for 11 straight years....Kolb's resume = ______________

"The eagles felt McNabb couldn't get over the hump" but they felt that Kolb, who HAS NO NFL SUCCESS could?

Again....what warranted the Eagles to believe that Kolb was better for the team than McNabb. The answer to that is the answer to why Kolb is starting over Vick. Use your brain my dude.

 

[bow to royalty]

all your examples were bad ones. I'll point out the biggest one, Michael Clayton. He received a huge contract extension did he not when he was only able to dominate for one year. You are arguing a non arguable point. GM's and coaches like to play "their guys." This is a fact my dude.

And you just pointed out how Kolb starting makes no sense.

How does this make sense. I'ma break down the ridiculousness of your logic.

McNabb took the Eagles to the playoffs for 11 straight years....Kolb's resume = ______________

"The eagles felt McNabb couldn't get over the hump" but they felt that Kolb, who HAS NO NFL SUCCESS could?

Again....what warranted the Eagles to believe that Kolb was better for the team than McNabb. The answer to that is the answer to why Kolb is starting over Vick. Use your brain my dude.

He got signed to a contract (overpaid him, but not a huge contract) last year and got cut this year. How's that tryna stick with who u drafted no matter what? He's healthy and able to play and we cut him as soon as we drafted receivers. I didn't say Kolb was better than Vick, but that's why the Eagles cut Mcnabb. They felt he couldn't get them where they wanted to go so they decided to move in a new direction. Besides you don't think Mcnabb was "their guy"? What team do you think drafted him?

 

[blakfyahking]

Is it just me or does it seem like them niggas on the Eagles play harder for Vick than they do for Kolb?

At the end of the day McNabb is the big winner as of now.

I noticed this as well...........it seem like everytime Vick is on the field the offense turns it up in support of dude

 

[Mvpbrodie93]

Ya gotta root for vick, if he starts he should beat the lions....

 

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[peagle05]

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smh...for the few of us eagles fans with some sense...that shit still burns slow

 

[eyes low]

i think the eagles fucked up giving kolb a contract the'yre kind forced to stick with him at least till half way through the season