Kendrick Lamar vs BIG K.R.I.T. ...who will be more relevant 5 years from now...

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Hell the white boy from Oakland G-Eazy did 47,000 albums his first week with far less buzz than KRIT. And no sales does not equal quality, but it shows that KRIT isn't even in J. Cole or Kendrick backseat yet.

Asap Rocky did 147,000 his first week with At.Long.Last.ASAP.

Big Sean did 137,000 with Dark Skies Paradise.

Get this nigga KRIT all the fuckin way outta here.

you sound like my niggas who's opinions i dont really respect cuz they hype thug and rich homie quan over everybody with the justification "but they got money tho!!!"

u talm bout sales show krit aint in cole or kendrick area, wen its been said a thousand times thats they advantage over krit. but that doesnt make krit irrelevant at all, and krit is very much in the area in the most important area, quality music

your personal circle doesnt measure whats poppin, its just 5-10 niggas that was feelin control. shit even tho i think kendrick had the best part it really was nothing but him sayin names really loud. you wanna go by hype and what everyone else nut riding u choose kendrick on control, u wanna go by how the actual music sounds u choose mt olympus

holla at me when its possible to plug in earphones and hear record sales.

yall have the nerve to call me stan, but kendrick has classic albums after 1 listen according to yall, and kendrick saved dre career and made str8 outta compton a bigger movie. mane take the fuck and get it outta here

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

and who the FUCK is g-eazy?

 

[Turfaholic]

That's G-Eazy, and that video has 48million views on YouTube.

But you missed the point where I said sales doesn't necessarily equal quality. But sales can represent the amount of people interested in a certain artist. KRIT has a strong fan base. It's just not a big one. Kinda like Field Mob first album. Not alot of people have heard it, but everybody who has says its a underrated hip hop classic.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxnaPa8ohmM

That's G-Eazy, and that video has 48million views on YouTube.

But you missed the point where I said sales doesn't necessarily equal quality. But sales can represent the amount of people interested in a certain artist. KRIT has a strong fan base. It's just not a big one. Kinda like Field Mob first album. Not alot of people have heard it, but everybody who has says its a underrated hip hop classic.

i wouldnt say sales always represents the amount of people interested in a certain artist, especially in these times, niggas can make a top 10 album of the year list and 70 percent of the list will prolly not have crossed the 100k sold mark. bolded is common knowledge tho, matter fact ive said several times in here from the jump he not on they level sales wise, im just tryna see how this equals irrelevant.

and how does someone with far less buzz have a video with 48 million views?

 

[Turfaholic]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxnaPa8ohmM

That's G-Eazy, and that video has 48million views on YouTube.

But you missed the point where I said sales doesn't necessarily equal quality. But sales can represent the amount of people interested in a certain artist. KRIT has a strong fan base. It's just not a big one. Kinda like Field Mob first album. Not alot of people have heard it, but everybody who has says its a underrated hip hop classic.

i wouldnt say sales always represents the amount of people interested in a certain artist, especially in these times, niggas can make a top 10 album of the year list and 70 percent of the list will prolly not have crossed the 100k sold mark. bolded is common knowledge tho, im just tryna see how this equals irrelevant.

and how does someone with far less buzz have a video with 48 million views?

Yea sales aren't ground solid in the internet age, but it still can be used to guage a artist popularity. And G-Eazy was in the hip hop awards cypher. I think last year. Homie has put in work. His EP did 47,000 first week. He's done tracks with Ferg, Too $hort, French Montana and few others. Probably would've been a little bigger if he didn't sound like the typical Eminem sounding white boy.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxnaPa8ohmM

That's G-Eazy, and that video has 48million views on YouTube.

But you missed the point where I said sales doesn't necessarily equal quality. But sales can represent the amount of people interested in a certain artist. KRIT has a strong fan base. It's just not a big one. Kinda like Field Mob first album. Not alot of people have heard it, but everybody who has says its a underrated hip hop classic.

i wouldnt say sales always represents the amount of people interested in a certain artist, especially in these times, niggas can make a top 10 album of the year list and 70 percent of the list will prolly not have crossed the 100k sold mark. bolded is common knowledge tho, im just tryna see how this equals irrelevant.

and how does someone with far less buzz have a video with 48 million views?

Yea sales aren't ground solid in the internet age, but it still can be used to guage a artist popularity. And G-Eazy was in the hip hop awards cypher. I think last year. Homie has put in work. His EP did 47,000 first week. He's done tracks with Ferg, Too $hort, French Montana and few others. Probably would've been a little bigger if he didn't sound like the typical Eminem sounding white boy.

thats prolly exactly why he has 48 million views and sold 47,000.

 

[DOPEdweebz]

G-Eazy is relevant, just not relevant on allhiphop the anti new age white rapper board. We're just a sample size of what is generally liked and disliked. He been had a buzz since he done that song poster above with The Ross remix a few years ago. Remember white people still buy a majority of the albums and pay for the concert tickets, but continue...

 

[Turfaholic]

G-Eazy is relevant, just not relevant on allhiphop the anti new age white rapper board. We're just a sample size of what is generally liked and disliked. He been had a buzz since he done that song poster above with The Ross remix a few years ago. Remember white people still buy a majority of the albums and pay for the concert tickets, but continue...

Props

 

[DOPEdweebz]

G-Eazy is relevant, just not relevant on allhiphop the anti new age white rapper board. We're just a sample size of what is generally liked and disliked. He been had a buzz since he done that song poster above with The Ross remix a few years ago. Remember white people still buy a majority of the albums and pay for the concert tickets, but continue...

Props

No idea what the props are for bruh. No idea.

 

[Turfaholic]

I just wanted to use that Jacka smiley I just found lol

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

never said g-easy wasnt relevant i just asked who he was.

turf said krit wasnt relevant, and when i asked how not he brung up g-easy who he says has less buzz but somehow has 48 million views and sold a lil more

that still doesnt explain how krit isnt relevant, but i dont think anyone is goin to provide an intelligent answer to that.

i agree that the ic is a sample size but a very small one. but some niggas act wishy washy with it.

with krit, the ic represents every fan he has. (only liked on the internet, as if his fans are a bunch of bots instead of people who actually have to log on to the internet)

with kendrick, the ic represents "everyone calling gkmc a classic"

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Imo gkmc is a classic, but tpab is a solid to very good album. If someone feels like they're both or neither is a classic so be it. That's their opinion.

One of the things, I hated about hip-hop is the idea that everyone should consider certain albums a classic in general, or you're not a pure hip hop fan.

I do respect it to certain point that the monolothic consensus is built to protect the "integrity" of the "culture", but in a catch-22, it lumps us together in thinking and perception, as if we have the inability to think, judge, and feel based on our own individualistic experiences, backgrounds, probable predispositions and pre-influences to certain sounds & messages, and etc.

Certain artists we are gonna naturally be attached to more personally and sonically speaking than others based on many factors beyond our control or immediate comprehension. We need to (or should) accept that certain albums can be a classic to me, but not necessarily to you and vice versa.

Just respect that each of us are different.

 

[S2J]

"I do respect it to certain point that the monolothic consensus is built to protect the "integrity" of the "culture", but..."

How is there a 'but' to that?!?!?!

Because "our" culture is doing just fine right now without it right? Lmao While u bullshit "our" culture bout to be extinct like a mfer

I tell you, yall are weighing your abiity for YOUR personal rankings to be king vs the existence of a respected BLACK awarding voice, and you're picking yourself! Not seeing the forest from the trees

Its all well n good when you cam jump on the IC and make ANY gotdamn album a clasic just bc you want it to be...

But when you wake up and the Grammys is telling us (and the youngins, future hip hop artists) that Maclemore and Iggy Azalea are the faces of hip hop...and Complex is writing in depth analysis on the social implications of Dirty Sprite 2, they are sellin that to the people who will then be asked to carry this torch. Because now THATS the voice defining what hip hop is, not to us grown folk, but the youngins. Why? Bc there is no internal, street- bred, pesky little "monolithic consensus" to be the real voice. Tbey arw,writing OUR story!! You dont see the damn problem with that! !?

So when all that happens dont say shit. Dont cry when Complex keep speaking for us. This is what you want

 

[Turfaholic]

3 years later and K.R.I.T. still irrelevant.

u been sayin a lotta dumb ass shit lately fam. irrelevant is first week sales like troy ass or dj khaled. niggas on here love lupe and wouldnt dare call him irrelevant and krit out doin him in the mid 2010's. just sayin

Bruh if KRIT wasn't from your neck of the woods you wouldn't cape as hard for him. Let's just keep this shit a hunnet. And to keep it a hunnet I've haven't seen Lupe get shine outside of the internet since his song with Trey Songz. That nigga irrelevant to the average listener as well. Nobody in the barber shops talking about Lupe or KRIT. Nobody DJing the club bumping KRIT or Lupe. Its just a select few of yall riding and bumping that. And this is a point where sells can come into play and back up this statement.

bruh when i first heard of krit and got into him i aint even know he was from the sip!!!

yall call top 5 album debuts irrelevant now? who give a fuck what niggas in the barber shop talkin bout, its just a select few, yet them niggas still at least moving 100,000 in today's climate, when the niggas "being talked about in the barbershop" DONT MOVE SHIT. cuz lets keep it a hunnit, kendrick, cole, wale, drake aint being discussed in the barbershops either, FOH bruh lol

Also, Krit let me down. He murders features, but his albums are an acquired taste and I hate to agree with S2J, but the appeal is mostly regional. Doing shows overseas is the move if your job title is rapper, but they eat shit up outside of the states. That shit is like ball players who are good going overseas to play because they just aren't good enough to be great in the NBA.

yall got on krit for being local, now he a d-league player for not being local lmaoooo

Source as the standard again would open a Conundrum of its own.

Back in the day the heads involved in deeming what was a classic were OF THAT generation. They were of the same generation the artists were pretty much. The music resonated on a personal level. The tastemakers.

If the Source was still the standard they'd have a bunch of the oldheads who have no personal connection to the music of the generation. Nostalgia would cloud, So shit would get skewed.

Don't want to make it personal but my pops for instance was heavily connected to the Rakim, Kane, LL era. A young adult then so by the time it's became the 90's era he was an oldhead. 90 cats to him as a whole is just aight the way S2J and others marginalize the cats now. Like he'll give props to a guy here and there but they not really nice per se.

At the end of the day some of you niggas just won't get it. It is what it is. You'll just have to howl at the moon.

great post b, for real tho niggas need to get the fuck on wit that "having ahold of our shit" elitist bullshit.

With KRIT I feel that his production carries him more than anything cuz his lyricism aint all that. Give 6 or 7 years for a new wave and rap and someone will fill his void. KRIT will forever be on the underground. Doesn't mean he can't still be a legend tho.

I dont think Kendrick is overhyped at all, GKMC is a classic and whether yall like it or not TPAB is too. Those are 2 extremely strong pieces of work that neither KRIT, Cole, Wale, Drake or Flacko have (peep the reviews and ratings online too). It's similar to Illmatic & IWW to the NEW younger generation of fans. Kendrick not scared to toe the line between being a conscious MC, commercial and being real af which is very rare nowadays. He doesn't put it on twitter he puts it in music. On top of that he's won 2 grammies (to Drake's one). With all that going for him he's self made and HASN'T even used his Dr.Dre or Black Hippy cheat code yet so imagine when he does. It's what he's done and the potential he has that makes him so revered.

Drake you could argue is overrated but Kendrick Lamar ? Iuno if that's the Reason finally turning on him or niggas feeling like they favourites should be above him....

theres nothing that distinguishes kendrick as that much better than krit lyrically. and i refused to call any albums classic cuz others said it is. plus krit has very strong reviews and ratings too but niggas act like they cant understand the story he was tryna tell. and people keep talkin bout this dr dre code, hasnt he already used it? lol how do we kno the music wont suck when he does?

i think kendrick is among the best out, but he is very overhyped, on here at least. on my personal networks he gets his proper due and its someone like j. cole who is overhyped. there's nothing that separates either of them from his peers other than yall like em more. the others may SELL more, but hell vanilla ice sold more than his peers, that didnt make him better did it? so i dont get why people act like krit cant be in the league and go to sales, and when they try to say lyrically or substance wise they cant bring anything that separates him

I respect your opinion fam and I think that in terms of potential you can say that but in terms of accomplishments Kendrick is ahead of Wale, KRIT and J.Cole. He said in XXL he wasn't going to use any Dre beats on his albums until he felt worthy (talk about being humble). His peers came before him and Kendrick still got all he did. He didn't have a Lil Wayne on his singles or Baby promoting his records, he didn't have Lady Gaga or MMG/Ross in their primes or Jerry Seinfeld narrate his album (one of the GOAT comedians), he didn't have Defjam/Sha Money XL or Luda cosigns on major singles or 8+ mixtapes/albums, he didn't have RocNation, TLC, Janet Jackson or Jay-Z management on his album/career. Yet he not only sold more (you can discredit the sales too) but none of them currently have a GKMC let alone TPAB or Compton (aka Detox). I agree they have the potential to release an album that impactful but to the general public it hasn't happened yet. I mean, nevermind Dr.Dre he hasn't even used his Black Hippy card yet, so imagine....

In terms of potential or subjectivity I think the others have what it takes to meet Kendrick Lamar and maybe surpass him but that remains to be seen. At present time Kendrick appears to be ahead of them cats *shrugs*. Lyrics are subjective and I could make a strong case but wont bother.

I agree minus him surpassing Cole. They are neck and neck. Cole album went plat with no features and the message they both are spitting puts them in a Public Enemy/ Militant 2Pac lane. Shits legendary only 2 albums (not counting section 80) in.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

U guys are still talking about commercial success when I've already conceded that 1000 Times lol. And just Dr dre affiliation with Kendrick Lamar exceeds every cosign u mentioned for every other artist u mention except maybe roc nation sion, not to mention Kendrick flipped tha Janet Jackson and I'd love to see the strong lyrics case that's what I've asked for the whole time, but I digress