Kendrick Lamar(Shots Fired!!!!) "Control"

[Valentinez A. Kaiser]

Aight finally caught up to the end of this thread, had so much shit to say along the way but don't wanna be bothered with no titangraphs

IMO....

- Everyone who got called out on Kendrick's verse needs to either a) respond on wax or b) just step their general pen game up from here on out and let their future shit speak for itself in terms of its lyrical quality i.e. don't talk/tweet about it just be about it period

- Especially Big Sean; it's bad enough you had the worst verse (out of all 3) but then you got called out to step your bars up on your own damn song.... "where they do dat at?" [cos that's some coldblooded shit]

- Shout outs to a new Jay Elect verse....

- Pusha T also needs to feel some kinda way to be called a "new nigga".... "Lord Willin'" came out in 2002!

- Fabolous has to respond now especially since he tweeted about "open studios"

- Would love to see someone like a Juelz Santana feel reignited by this to pick up the pen and step into the arena

- Also if it's really all competition, then I don't see the reason for the disclaimer by separating the likes of Jay, Nas, Eminem etc from the convo like that. If you only wanna go at the "new niggas" then just go at them without the "FYI I ain't talking bout these guys" approach.

- Take Lupe's first SLR for example, look at who he opted to put his name out there with and compare it to the name's Kendrick called out.

Spoiler

Pharrell what these niggas talkin' 'bout?

2 man Big Pun, a 1 man Slaughterhouse

A 2 album Jay-Z, a 1 nigga Wu-Tang

Young and hungry Mos Def, a conscious rappin Lil Wayne

I don't care for similarities

Cause I'm a pioneer, not a parody

These ain't bars, this is barbarity

SLR... Clarity

- Finally speaking of Lupe, Lu's always been lyrical from day dot, and tracks like "Dumb It Down" was a way of him saying I ain't conforming to these weak ass lyrics everyone wanted to be on just to be on. So if he "felt" some kinda way, to me it's understandable.

Spoiler

You going over niggas heads, Lu (Dumb it down!)

They telling me that they don't feel you (Dumb it down!)

We ain't graduate from school, nigga (Dumb it down!)

Them big words ain't cool, nigga (Dumb it down!)

Yeah I heard "Mean and Vicious", nigga (Dumb it down!)

Make a song for the bitches, nigga! (Dumb it down!)

We don't care about the weather nigga (Dumb it down!)

You'll sell more records if you (Dumb it down!)

 

[afro thunder]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

The people buying CDs and going to tour are not the ones that like lyrical stuff. They want shit they can dance to...besides lately hiphop largest consumers are not even black. Why do you think the corps keep asking for the bubblegum raps?

I know yall saw that thread about how these bishes love Sosa. Ain't a black girl in sight.

Keef sold less than 150k albums to date.

Flocka dropped last year and he only up to 170k

French not even 100k sold LMAO

Future is 303k sold, which is disappointing for a street rapper with a huge following

Lets be serious, all that shit about partying is not selling any CDs or selling out huge concerts. Hole in the wall clubs, yeah, but not stadiums.

Cole sold over 500k in under 2 months

Wale approaching 400k within 2 months

K Dot Platinum under a year

In economical sense, why should I keep on pushing artists that don't sell or have a supporting fanbase? Its the beginning of the end of the SALES POPULARITY of the ratchet era and record companies gotta support the lyrical rappers if they want to stay open.

All those cats flopped but that's not the whole story. Out of all the rap albums released this year, the only ones to go gold or close were the 2 you mentioned (Cole & Wale) Lil Wayne, Kanye and Jay-Z. Everyone else didn't really sell much. That includes Snoop, Eve, Mac Miller, Will.I.Am, LL Cool J, Tyler, Tyga, Budden, ASAP, Kid Cudi, Talib Kweli, Gucci, French and Ace.

Now compare those ratchet rapper album sales to any other rapper and you'll see they out sale the average rapper, so they are doing good sales wise & way better than others like Snoop, LL, Talib and Eve. Also you have to factor in the sales of singles. Their albums may flop but the singles go gold or platinum. These ratchet rappers ain't going no where and will continue to dominate the air waves.

I would like to see them go as much as the next man but it's not going to happen. Not when people keep calling the radio to request their songs.

 

[Max.]

Check out Latin West Coast Emcee Sim Kapone Version
https://soundcloud.com/dmoragne-cgn/sim-kapone-icontrol

Bruh...

 

[CottonCitySlim]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

The people buying CDs and going to tour are not the ones that like lyrical stuff. They want shit they can dance to...besides lately hiphop largest consumers are not even black. Why do you think the corps keep asking for the bubblegum raps?

I know yall saw that thread about how these bishes love Sosa. Ain't a black girl in sight.

Keef sold less than 150k albums to date.

Flocka dropped last year and he only up to 170k

French not even 100k sold LMAO

Future is 303k sold, which is disappointing for a street rapper with a huge following

Lets be serious, all that shit about partying is not selling any CDs or selling out huge concerts. Hole in the wall clubs, yeah, but not stadiums.

Cole sold over 500k in under 2 months

Wale approaching 400k within 2 months

K Dot Platinum under a year

In economical sense, why should I keep on pushing artists that don't sell or have a supporting fanbase? Its the beginning of the end of the SALES POPULARITY of the ratchet era and record companies gotta support the lyrical rappers if they want to stay open.

And 2chainz 1st is at 800k so wtf Are you saying? I beat if future would of dropped his album with the buZz he has now, it would of went gold. He dropped too early. Look you in this bitch posting all these titangraphs praying to Allah that club bangers, trap rap ect goes away. BUT it won't, because they only care about getting club show money which is good money and they don't have to owe anyone for going on a big tour.

Right now all you can hope for is this can get lyrical stuff a little more play on the airwaves

 

[deathrowzorrow]

Haha

 

[deathrowzorrow]

Smack a bitch

 

[P. Town]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

The people buying CDs and going to tour are not the ones that like lyrical stuff. They want shit they can dance to...besides lately hiphop largest consumers are not even black. Why do you think the corps keep asking for the bubblegum raps?

I know yall saw that thread about how these bishes love Sosa. Ain't a black girl in sight.

Keef sold less than 150k albums to date.

Flocka dropped last year and he only up to 170k

French not even 100k sold LMAO

Future is 303k sold, which is disappointing for a street rapper with a huge following

Lets be serious, all that shit about partying is not selling any CDs or selling out huge concerts. Hole in the wall clubs, yeah, but not stadiums.

Cole sold over 500k in under 2 months

Wale approaching 400k within 2 months

K Dot Platinum under a year

In economical sense, why should I keep on pushing artists that don't sell or have a supporting fanbase? Its the beginning of the end of the SALES POPULARITY of the ratchet era and record companies gotta support the lyrical rappers if they want to stay open.

 

[KLICHE]

Daz is a fool for that .....hoping and not hoping someone gets shot

I don't think hoping anything.. I think he's just stating that once again, a westcoast artist/s will be the focal point of rap when all is said and done.. the shit we've been putting up with all over the place will be gone.

 

[KLICHE]

SMH crazy how that went over so many of y'all head. Read it again slowly with your thinking cap on. '' I'm Makaveli's(2pac) offspring, I'm the king of New York

King of the Coast, one hand, I juggle them both''

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Balance

 

[DarthRozay]

Negus Narmer ‏@BruthaDee 13 Aug

King of New York? Hov? Nassir? Rakim? Herc? It damn sure ain't a Cali sophmore w/ an immigrants voice and a box-fade #control

Negus Narmer ‏@BruthaDee 13 Aug

@JEFFAXELdaGreat I f*cks w/ K.Dot but he ain't no damn KONY, he need to work on king of the West 1st & he ain't put in work like Cube.

 

[Max.]

Jr writer song dropped


Exclusive how it was made!!!!

MUST WATCH!!

Spoiler

http://youtu.be/zjFBrRcTfic

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

50 calls KDOT

50 : Kid daddy DRE cosign your Me against the world shit?

KDOT: yeah i got to go hard at those bishes big bruh

50 : just know that the odds are high he produces your career ending song

... just saying.

 

[_Menace_]

I just got a Skytel message from Bang Em Smurf saying that Murphy Lee is recording his response as we speak. He still isn't sure what the hook is going to be though.

Murphy lee what the hook gonna be? You done fucked up chingy song

Wait, what?

You don't remember that Afro Man song? Whack Rappers where he starts talking shit in the begining? He says that

 

[_Menace_]

Kurupt just reposted Daz pic saying

"Kurupt_gottti- KINGS OF NY hahahaha

Tha West has one #DPGC #dontbemad #raisethebar #historyrepeatsitsself"

We might have another west vs east beef if NY ever defends themselves you got West Coast rappers from that time taking shots again.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i gotta give kdot props....

even though he shitted on alot of people and wants to set the bar higher for lyrics and rappers...

if everybody gets back to good lyrics

he just shut down 98% of the south an stop them niggas from eat on one verse

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Kurupt just reposted Daz pic saying

"Kurupt_gottti- KINGS OF NY hahahaha

Tha West has one #DPGC #dontbemad #raisethebar #historyrepeatsitsself"

We might have another west vs east beef if NY ever defends themselves you got West Coast rappers from that time taking shots again.

The competition is on!! Rep your sides to the fullest with bars and quality albums.

Keep your guns in your holsters though

 

[_Menace_]

Check out Latin West Coast Emcee Sim Kapone Version
https://soundcloud.com/dmoragne-cgn/sim-kapone-icontrol

You sound like you have breathing problems I can hear you litterally struggling to keep up with the beat lol even Pun had good breath control and he was over 800lbs.

You actually kinda sound like Dj Khaled

Go get inshape b

And what where you talking about on this track? You seemed all over the place its like you forgot why you made the song. And if you made this track as a response you must really have nothing else to rap about.

Don't try to get a buzz off this whole Kendrick shit cause it seems like a week attempt to get yourself a little buzz.

Welcome to the IC I suggest you post your music in The Donkey biggest supporters over there.

 

[Stew]

Cant believe u spent all that time on a new poster when he's already got his ass handed to him.

 

[T. Sanford]

i gotta give kdot props....

even though he shitted on alot of people and wants to set the bar higher for lyrics and rappers...

if everybody gets back to good lyrics

he just shut down 98% of the south an stop them niggas from eat on one verse

The south is still gon eat regardless