Kendrick Lamar(Shots Fired!!!!) "Control"

[BarryHalls]

Rumor has it that the nigga that wears that mask from the St. Lunatics is cooking up a response. Stay tuned.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I just got a Skytel message from Bang Em Smurf saying that Murphy Lee is recording his response as we speak. He still isn't sure what the hook is going to be though.

 

[afro thunder]

I'd like to see Luda respond. He'll rip the instrumental easily. But Luda is too established to respond to this...but for the hell of it should release something for his fans.

 

[_Menace_]

I just got a Skytel message from Bang Em Smurf saying that Murphy Lee is recording his response as we speak. He still isn't sure what the hook is going to be though.

Murphy lee what the hook gonna be? You done fucked up chingy song

 

[Wild Self]

Im slowly readin thru this thread, but the fact that NUMEROUS cats r sayin 'big sean verse aint that bad' is why we here in the first place.

It takes a verse like Kendricks to show how average most these new nggas are! Aside from Jay elec, the guys name droped are Average! They get good production and tell oaisionally good stories, but they are not it. Not in comparison to thier pedecessors. Thank you Kendrick Lamar (who is overhyped himself) for highlighting exctly that point.

However...Now watch Joe Budden show that Kendrick is not '90s nice' either and show the even higher level

What the hell is 90's nice? If a rapper is nice he's nice. It's like when people say certain athletes wouldn't be good if they played in the past. If you're good enough your talent will always shine through. Not every rapper in the 90's was "90's nice" yet we still remember their songs and fuck with their music.

Oh really?

90's nice is just a metpahor for 'back in the day'...i wont even bring up the literal 90's and the obvious fact that rappers then are better than those now. Wont even bring it up.

But even the early 2000s nggas were '90s nice'

When the last time you listened to Beans n Jada's beef? Compare it to this.

Jay vs Nas (of course). Compare it to this.

When the last time you listened to Jada easily embarass and destroy 50 lyrically...with ALL TRUTH...no metaphors. Compare it to this.

State Property killin it at Hot 97 w/ Jay-z losin his mind...that same night Cassidy damn near birthed battle rap as we STILL know it now, by murderin Freeway...i could go on and on

The competition level is lower now, Period.

I mean, just LOOK at the names he mentioned as his compettion...Asap Rocky....Meek Mill...Mac Miller (kys w/ the 'mac miller got bars' shyt) Gtfoh.

Shyt is like Bosie State football goin 13-0 every fukin year Lol Nobody cares b/c i know they aint beatin nobody.

"It ain't about how many fIghts you had, it's who you fought"

You too busy comparing shit from a decade and 2 decades ago that you missing out on what is actually happening right now. 90's nice makes no damn sense because for one you're eliminating anything that came before then which means you're cutting off alot of hip-hop greats that weren't that big in the 90's but were nice before then. Think about how many legendary rappers who came out in the 80's but flamed out by the 90's yet we still hold them up. Do they not count because they're not "90's nice"? You can't compare actual beefs to this shit because this is NOT a beef/diss. The things you listed were all rappers who had legit issues with each other and it was more than some "I'm the best rapper" shit it was literally on some "If I see you we fighting" type shit. You've heard Beans and Jada speak on their beef. That shit was real beef between two crews who just happened to rap as well. We just happened to get some good diss songs out of it. Competition doesn't mean niggas have to beef and dislike each other, it just means nobody slacks off when it comes to proving they're the best. Which can be done w/o all the extra shit being done off records.

This will go over a lot of people's heads. People want that extra shit where people get harmed/ killed for "entertainment." Lyrical bars is still not enough for them.

 

[trilladelic]

random af but wouldnt mind hearing a mystikal response

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Meek pussing out yet again

 

[P. Town]

I just got a Skytel message from Bang Em Smurf saying that Murphy Lee is recording his response as we speak. He still isn't sure what the hook is going to be though.

Murphy lee what the hook gonna be? You done fucked up chingy song

Wait, what?

 

[Wild Self]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

 

[Wild Self]

Big K.R.I.T. spoke with HipHopDX about his reaction to the verse, explaining how it connects with Hip Hop history.

“Rap, Hip Hop has always been mad competitive,” K.R.I.T. said Tuesday. “It's exciting because it was probably crazier for his fans, for him to mention my name among rappers that people would consider top tier, [rappers] people kind of look at as being the future and my name just randomly popped up. So what I got an opportunity to see a little bit last night and this morning, was just people that probably never tweeted me before, whether it be negative or positive. For me, it was like, ‘Thank you for the promotion.’"

Kendrick Lamar's verse may introduce new fans to K.R.I.T. who were previously unaware of his skills as a lyricist, he said.

“It let people know that, ‘Yeah, I'm from the South and yeah, I'm country but you ain’t going to take me lightly," K.R.I.T. said. "Aint none of these rappers going to take me lightly on a record.’ And [Kendrick Lamar] know that. So that's why my name ended up on that list. If you think about ‘1 Train,’ or any record, I’ma give my all. People know that I'm a lyricist and I can compete with some of the best and it is what is. I appreciate the shout out because that’s really what it is. It’s a competitive sport; it’s a gladiator sport. Don't nobody want to get murdered on a record. That just it is what is. So I don’t know, brother. I was like, ‘Hell yeah.’ It is what it is. Thank you for the shout out and shout out to all the fans that he may have that didn't know about my music and now they gon’ go back and listen to records and check out ‘1 Train,’ and want to know why he felt the need to mention my name. And I’m 100% sure he probably gets tired of going to barbershops and hearing my name mentioned where he is and vice-versa. It's all good man. It's all within the sport.”

Joe budden and pusha t...the only nggas I want to hear w/ a rebuttal

The rest? On the low Drake is more built for this than yall's saviors Krit, j cole, wale, etc...But make no mistake...none of the new guys have 'it'. You can almost read the accompanying 'this is just rap it aint no beef' interview that will follow. ...fuk these overrespecrful nggas. They all soft.

So they supposed to beef with a nigga who made it clear the verse wasn't meant as some "let's beef" shit?

Uh, yes ngga. Yes. Thats pretty much exactly what I'm saying.

By 'beef' i mean just go in lyrically...like your prepared to make this ngga mad and never talk to em again...no caveats...no explanations...no 'its all love, thats my brother, its compettion, blah blah blah'. Like you prepared to not fuk with NONE of these nggas

These new nggas wana be part of EVERY circle. TDEMMGOVO foh Lol

Its moments like this where i appreciate 50. Where all the lone wolfs at? Where all the anti-social rappers

Hence why i said: Give me Budden and Pusha and no one else. Thye will make this shyt UNCOMFORTABLE.

You see where 50 being anti-social has gotten his music career right? No release date in sight for how many years now? Like me and others keep saying, you can be competitive as you want w/o being disrespectful. You talking about Budden when Budden is part of Slaughter House which is what again? Oh yeah a group of solo rappers with careers already who came together to form a group. Pusha who not only been part of a group his whole career minus the past 2 years but also joined up with Good Music instead of doing something independent for his solo stuff. You picked the two rappers who represent what you say you hate.

@ bolded: Nggas, boy i tell you. Do we really wanna use 50 cent as an example of how NOT to win in the rap game? Lol

Lets not use a 3 year snapshot to undercut a 10+ yr career.

@ undrlined- Yea, you keep thinkin that. You think Nas got to a level of Ether b/c of his respect for Jay z? Pressure makes diamonds (no pun). Exactly how hard do u think a ngga gon go at somebody he goin to lunch with the next day?

Same thing is goin on in the NBA! All the teams that have given Lebron problems have grown to literally dislike this ngga (Pacers, Celtics, Mavs)

Meanwhile Kevin "I'm tired of being 2nd place" Durant is workin out with Lebron all summer, wonderin why he cant pass him...

I digress, but i trust u get the point.

Michael Jordan and Charles Oakley would have dinner the night before Bulls vs Knicks games and are still best friends til this day. Didn't stop Oakley from trying to take MJ's head off on the court along with every other member of the Bulls. Zeke and Magic were damn near brothers, didn't stop them from going at 100%. As far as 50, you can use his whole career to see where that lone wolf shit got him and what NOT to do if you want actual longevity when it comes to your music. Not only did it make others not want to work with him or his label, the shit has turned niggas who actually came in with him against him. Look at the shit he pops now about Banks and Yayo. How many other NY rappers, rappers you say are from your golden era, have said that 50's constant beefing was bad for NY and part of the reason it's in the state it's in now musically? More than a few. All that does is get you a quick rise and an even quicker fall which is exactly what happened to 50. Last buzz he had for an album was based off beefing with Kanye. That was back in 07. Before I Self Destruct had no buzz at all and he been getting shelved ever since then.

you just chopping off his head at this point. Some people can't distinguish competition with life and death beef.

 

[afro thunder]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

The people buying CDs and going to tour are not the ones that like lyrical stuff. They want shit they can dance to...besides lately hiphop largest consumers are not even black. Why do you think the corps keep asking for the bubblegum raps?

I know yall saw that thread about how these bishes love Sosa. Ain't a black girl in sight.

 

[MR.CJ]

It's crazy how lopsided everything is. The last time a buncha niggas was lining up to take shots at someone was Ja Rule, a textbook example of what happens when hiphop decided to run a train on you. Murda Inc got erased from history, like a fairytale no one believes in anymore.

Here, this is the first time when a bunch of rappers are ganging up on one lonesome nigga and he's the one that looks good. Like this is high school with everyone standing up giving presentations while Kendrick is the teacher giving grades.



"Lupe for the last time STAY FOCUSED AND ADDRESS THE TOPIC AT HAND, keep that string theory and German language for the other class."

I love Jay, that's my nigga

I feel sicker than a cruise ship

I ain't competition, I don't move shit

The only opposition is this new shit

These new niggas rappin' like they 2

They be actin' like they you, man that's-- wheeeeeew shit

What happened to the game?

Niggas think they Jappin' cause they rappin' like they Wayne

Rappin' like they Chainz

I ain't matchin' them in platinum

But I'm rappin' like I'm flames

Like smackin' them in the back of him and my antonyms is on 'cain

And my heroin is on metaphors and my metaphors is on brains

My left foot is in LA but my right foot is in Spain

Now we all heard what he said, but what he said means we dead

And that shit is insane

He's so crazy, look at the little baby

Nigga you ain't Nas, nigga you ain't Jay-Z

You will respect me, you will reject me

But I've done so much, no matter how far you go, you will reflect me

Taking shots at jigga

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Damn Daz..LMAO..rehashing old wounds.

https://twitter.com/DAZDILLINGER/status/367849394587971584

Gives me an idea for a new thread.

 

[Wild Self]

Also for people saying "This will change Hip Hop". Please. The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats. Also the "Super Friends" era won't end. Kendrick lit a fire and the powers that be will quickly put it out. Give it a week and the radio will still be spinning that trash. The real change has to happen OUTSIDE of the system. Kendrick called out his "Friends" but none of those friends care. They making money. Drake has done everything to avoid confrontation though he's talked tough in his rhymes. Most of the people he named won't respond.

That ratchet shit ain't selling records anymore. Future, Gucci, Waka Flocka, Keef, French and all them niggas flopped horrible this past year. Its the lyrical dudes that go gold easily nowadays and have bigger tours. Even these record companies know that they are losing money by prolonging this fabricated party 808s era and they need to make artists have REAL fanbases in the future in order to survive. That short term money is long gone and only the established fanbases will keep them from having a Chapter 11.

The people buying CDs and going to tour are not the ones that like lyrical stuff. They want shit they can dance to...besides lately hiphop largest consumers are not even black. Why do you think the corps keep asking for the bubblegum raps?

I know yall saw that thread about how these bishes love Sosa. Ain't a black girl in sight.

Keef sold less than 150k albums to date.

Flocka dropped last year and he only up to 170k

French not even 100k sold LMAO

Future is 303k sold, which is disappointing for a street rapper with a huge following

Lets be serious, all that shit about partying is not selling any CDs or selling out huge concerts. Hole in the wall clubs, yeah, but not stadiums.

Cole sold over 500k in under 2 months

Wale approaching 400k within 2 months

K Dot Platinum under a year

In economical sense, why should I keep on pushing artists that don't sell or have a supporting fanbase? Its the beginning of the end of the SALES POPULARITY of the ratchet era and record companies gotta support the lyrical rappers if they want to stay open.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Things we've missed while being caught up in this thread:

A NEW Jay Electronica verse plus him saying he didn't know Kendrick was on it until a few days ago:


http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2013/08/jay-electronica-responds-to-control/

and this picture of Nicki Minaj

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Daz is a fool for that .....hoping and not hoping someone gets shot

 

[1CK1S]

and this picture of Nicki Minaj

Spoiler

Spoiler

Meh can't see nipple nor ass so pic is irrelevant!!!

 

[verbal juke]

SLR, Nigga please

Aint hatin on you hatin wrong cause you cant hang on to my angles... Lupe

Lupe is a monster. He def threw a jab at Jigga though, after he did it he said Jay my man though... LOL

 

[ImTheKangRoundHere]

 

[_Menace_]

Y'all late on that Daz pic he posted that shit early morning.

New York is kinda quite right now its like everyone is taking shots at them and they can't do a damn thing