Kendrick Lamar(Shots Fired!!!!) "Control"

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Here's thing with all these responses if they wanted to kick off an all-out battle with K. Dot:

Fred's was shit....and no one remembers him.

King Los shit was admirable...but no one knows him enough.

B.o.B shit was just too far out there for anyone to take serious.

Mickey Factz was lackluster. Not bad, but not good enough.....and no one knows him.

Cassidy's shit was solid, but the general consensus is he's been gone too long to be in for an all-out war, and K. Dot would probably trash him.

Joell would eat that dude ALIVE...but SH as a whole doesn't have that mainstream attention to really heighten a battle of K vs. JO, and not too many people would care outside of hardcore fans.

...then there's Lupe.

If there's ONE response I hope K. Dot responses to, it's his; cause I'll call it now:

Kendrick Lamar vs. Lupe Fiasco would be the best battle in Hip-Hop since Nas vs. Jay-Z.

(the ironing of this is neither of them reside in NYC)
 
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s2jepeka;6154782 said:
Du_Du;6154676 said:
the whole point is this...if you're crowned the top rapper of the current crop, and everyone's critique is that the current crop sucks....then he's going to challenge that crop to be better as a whole so his reign won't have stipulations....

he's doing what a leader is supposed to do... challenge everyone around you to be better....

But you can put all the lipstick in the world on a pig...its still a pig.

Honestly there's nothing Wale, J. Cole, and Krit are NOT doing. They're representing as much as they can for this era...they're exhausting their pen game...They just not it! Lol Challenge or no challenge nobody can MAKE a ngga more talented/deep/inspiring than he is...maybe for a song or two, not long term

Is Big Sean gonna come out of this a brand new rapper? Mac Miller? Meek Mill?

i disagree..

i said earlier in this thread there's no reason why each and every era of rap can't be as good if not better than the previous.....ther's just not enough competitive spirit anymore....

like 9th said... niggaz needa go over their shit like 2 or 3 times... make sure their shit hot before dropping it....

niggaz make ok music when they want to... but i honestly don't believe they putting their absolute best out there like it's game 7 double overtime....

they ain't hitting this shit like they starving hungry and this rap shit the only thing they got.....

niggaz is lackadaisical as shit...they dumbing down their shit to be poppy in clubs, and to appease a bullshit audience....

this was a challenge to spitters to actually spit....and if they actually start spitting from it...how can anyone knock it?
 
i mean look at the buzz and the responses thus far...

shit this is already an 100 page thread..

if you don't think that verse changed anything.. you just in denial to be in denail
 
SnuffDaddy;6154761 said:
rapmastermind;6154628 said:
The people behind the money behind hip hop love weak lyrics and average beats.

WHY do you think that is though? Because theres a LARGE group of FANS that like that shit.

Black people keep doing that shit always blaming other people. I'm black too btw. They put money behind anything they can make money off - they're a BUSINESS/CORPORATION.

You a Biggie boy, people said the same about Biggie. Why did Biggie have more fans than a Wu-Tang, Nas etc? Cuz him & Puffy made music that were of the time (funk samples, smooth flows, thuggish raps etc. that was the thing at the time) & it worked. Thats always how its been.

Rakim wasnt as popular compared to many MCs that were wacker than him.

Same thing with these naggin bitches complaining about reality TV making black &/or women look bad yet Love & hip-hop has THE highest ratings of any show at the moment..so somebody is watching it.

But of course its never the peoples fault. Always someone elses fault. I know youre gonna aruge til death about the greatness of Biggie but facts are facts, im a fan so its not even a diss.

1st Rakim was popular. He was going Gold in the 80's which was good. 2nd Biggie still brought the lyrics and flow to his commercial songs and made timeless music, rappers today can't say the same as most of sh!t people called hot last year nobody cares about, we still listening to "Juicy and Big Poppa". 3rd It's more than about "Money" cause a lot of these one hit wonders aren't selling albums.

The powers that be will push the weakest form of Hip Hop to the masses. To say "This is what the masses want" is B.S. when it's being systematically pushed. The point is simple, Hip Hop lost itself a long time ago and the fact that Kendrick calling out his peers is getting this response shows you the state of hip hop. Rappers use to get challenged all the time in the 80's and 90's. The labels will only push what they "Feel" the people want.

That's the big difference. Cause when I was coming up we had Balance in Hip Hop. We had the dance Hip Hop, we had the conscious hip hop, we had the street hop we had it all. You can't tell me what is being pushed today is balance. How many conscious rap songs are being pushed? How many female rappers are being pushed? The game is completely out of wack and The Money Behind Hip Hop has a lot to do with that.
 
So the whole of hiphop responding to a Kendrick verse...

If that nigga was a poster on the IC, I would call that nigga a powerful poster.
 
That Cass shit was tough but I wouldn't put it ahead of Joell's or Lupe's after first listen. He said some shit on there tho, I like that jab about Kendrick not being able to outshine him if he wanted to. I haven't seen this much feelings caught over a verse since How To Rob.
 
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