Jermaine Dupri At Sway In The Morning

[MoneyLuver]

I was born in 1988 so slow down with all of your assumptions for one.

Two, I mightve not been attending concerts and reading magazines written by Jews and White people but I was hip to tha game at an early age.

I figured yall would say something about age but my generation was the first Strickly Hip Hop driven generation. If u were born before 88' your influences cames from Funk, R&B, and Jazz just as much as they did from Hip Hop. All we know is Rap. And u can't claim that so don't reach.

And its very hipster to call something "hipster". Not only that but u can't label everybody under one group.

Not only that but yall niggaz wanna see me wrong so bad that yall are willing to call JD hot just for an attempt at sonning me. Everybody I've ever known older & young never fucked with JD, the internet never showed love or respect for JD, & JD acknowledged in this interview nobody ever liked him. Now u wanna turn around and say I'm lyin or that its just me. No sir!

Then u say my first generation hip hop raised ass didn't own a Kriss Kross tape just becuz I had it and I'm keepin it G about the guy who helped put it out? Nah Champ, just take the L. Bask in the fact that not everything that glittered from your generation was Gold just like I already have about mine.

I lived thru that generation just as much as u did. I have siblings and cousins who blasted the music and lived the life your favorite artists talked about. I have friends who did the same and had the same influences as well.

If I was born in 2001 I could vouch for your age claim. But wild nigga I was there, I saw and heard everything. There's nothing in the 90s that got past me, nothing. I was that kid at school selling my own mix-cd's and in my own Rap groups. Im bout that life. JD was a fuckin clown

 

[aka_OG]

I was born in 1988 so slow down with all of your assumptions for one.

Two, I mightve not been attending concerts and reading magazines written by Jews and White people but I was hip to tha game at an early age.

I figured yall would say something about age but my generation was the first Strickly Hip Hop driven generation. If u were born before 88' your influences cames from Funk, R&B, and Jazz just as much as they did from Hip Hop. All we know is Rap. And u can't claim that so don't reach.

And its very hipster to call something "hipster". Not only that but u can't label everybody under one group.

Not only that but yall niggaz wanna see me wrong so bad that yall are willing to call JD hot just for an attempt at sonning me. Everybody I've ever known older & young never fucked with JD, the internet never showed love or respect for JD, & JD acknowledged in this interview nobody ever liked him. Now u wanna turn around and say I'm lyin or that its just me. No sir!

Then u say my first generation hip hop raised ass didn't own a Kriss Kross tape just becuz I had it and I'm keepin it G about the guy who helped put it out? Nah Champ, just take the L. Bask in the fact that not everything that glittered from your generation was Gold just like I already have about mine.

I lived thru that generation just as much as u did. I have siblings and cousins who blasted the music and lived the life your favorite artists talked about. I have friends who did the same and had the same influences as well.

If I was born in 2001 I could vouch for your age claim. But wild nigga I was there, I saw and heard everything. There's nothing in the 90s that got past me, nothing. I was that kid at school selling my own mix-cd's and in my own Rap groups. Im bout that life. JD was a fuckin clown

Fam - YOU'RE the one who claimed the internet is your friend and now adding in 'you were hip to the game and born in 88'

at the end of the day JD deserves to be in the convo of top hip hop producer and producer in general - you can beg to differ, but the arguments you are using are light weight (you seem to be the only one with them)

you can be the voice for the youngins if you feel it - its cool, but I just can't take y'all seriously with some of these modern day arguments regarding ol school ish - I just can't...

i'm gonna agree to disagree and keep it pushin

 

[MoneyLuver]

Nah Champ if JD is THE Man and undisputed then you should ride for your dogg. Don't just take a cheap cop out becuz I ether'd u with facts, it doesn't work that way

 

[MoneyLuver]

And the only reason u c me on this truthangraph is becuz I'm the only nigga on here who actually remember who JD is without holding any type of Age Bias or Youthful Ignorance.

Everything that's done in the dark will come to the light.

 

[TrillRussell]

lol..19.7 is Still less than 20..You still lose..troll

 

[MoneyLuver]

U ain't bein real doe, u just actin salty.

 

[MoneyLuver]

If I were to throw Nelly Furtado out there you'd be on hush mode

 

[Sweat jones]

Give up people

 

[TrillRussell]

If I were to throw Nelly Furtado out there you'd be on hush mode

But the original thing we were discussing was Confessions outselling all 4 of those albums that you were saying was just as Successful than anything JD produced..And I was right..Fuck the "uncounted sales or albums still may be selling"..The sales that are counted and can be added up proves That as of TODAY..Confessions has outsold all those albums you named..alone..just take that L..no need to troll..

 

[MoneyLuver]

But I never said any of those albums sold more. The original and ONLY statement in question was if they sold just as much or more combined.

I called your bluff and now you're nitpicking by trying to use outdated information as the end all be all of the debate. Like somehow those album COMBINED haven't sold 300K since last checked.

All of those albums may have not sold as much as "Confessions" single-handly but they resonated with the people just as much. And don't make me use the Vanilla Ice analogy to prove that, I'm beyond that cliche'

 

[SallTlim]

Gotta give credit where it's due, JD did move a lot of units & was apart of some of the most impactful moments. Especially in regards to comebacks. Usher, Mariah, he was even an unsung hero on the American Gangster album (even though Kingdom Come preceded it).

 

[TrillRussell]

But I never said any of those albums sold more. The original and ONLY statement in question was if they sold just as much or more combined.

I called your bluff and now you're nitpicking by trying to use outdated information as the end all be all of the debate. Like somehow those album COMBINED haven't sold 300K since last checked.

All of those albums may have not sold as much as "Confessions" single-handly but they resonated with the people just as much. And don't make me use the Vanilla Ice analogy to prove that, I'm beyond that cliche'

Just like Confessions could've moved another 300k or MORE alone since the last time it was checked..it works both ways bruh!

 

[MoneyLuver]

I already implied that to which u already had said before. But u also said it probably sold MILLIONS more. Which is definitely not true. Black people simply don't buy music like that. Its a rare event when we ever do.

 

[TrillRussell]

I already implied that to which u already had said before. But u also said it probably sold MILLIONS more. Which is definitely not true. Black people simply don't buy music like that. Its a rare event when we ever do.

It sold 20 Million albums worldwide.If black people were the only people buying it it wouldn't have done 20 Million in the first place..don't be an idiot bruh.

 

[MoneyLuver]

And don't be a pantsy. U kno good and well what I meant. Don't even try to act like I was saying that.

 

[georgia boi]

Why is Confessions still being passed off as an album that Jermaine Dupri helmed? He had four songs on it (five if we count the deluxe) out of 17-18 songs. How is this an album Jermaine Dupri produced? My Way is the Usher album that JD was all over. Again he produced three of the four huge singles from Confessions, but again, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis contributed just as much except the huge singles. So it doesn't matter whether Confessions sold 100 million or 20 million copies, it's ludircrous to credit JD with Confessions and compare it to an entire album that Timbaland did the bulk of.

 

[georgia boi]

In regard to Jermaine Dupri's legacy, he is underrated. I wouldn't put him in the ranks of Timbaland or The Neptunes, but Jermaine Dupri (along with Organized Noize and Dallas Austin) is responsible for shaping the sound of Atlanta. Lil' Jon came up under Jermaine Dupri and his first credits came on those So So Def Bass compilations. Kanye's first credits were on Jermaine Dupri's Life In 1472. There's an interview somewhere of Kanye admitting to biting JD's drums. "Turn It Out" (the song Kanye produced on Life In 1472) sounds like a JD production.

There's also the fact that JD produced the first female rapper to ever go platinum. He produced Kriss Kross and Bow Wow, but also worked with Biggie, LL Cool J, MC Lyte, and Lil' Kim. He's also got classics with Jay Z.

In terms of R&B, he gave us Xscape and Jagged Edge. At one point, Alicia Keys and Anthony Hamilton were his artists. His work with Usher, TLC, Monica, and Mariah Carey is classic and possibly at the forefront of his catalog as his biggest achievements.

 

[MoneyLuver]

Gettumm!

 

[dwade206]

[uote="MoneyLuver;6931040"]The "JD era" literally consisted of nothing but R&B-Rap that niggaz hated.

Who made u the mouth peice for all niggas??

The kriss kross record was the biggest rap song when it dropped before tim/dre/neptunes was doing anything

and the impact was huge everyone started wearing they shit backwards

Listen rnb is way harder to produce then hip hop

he dont sample that much

just the hits he got with Mariah makes him better than all them niggas

and he actually made the beats and all that.

have u heard the jagged edge songs he produced???

Nigga please

you cant be black no way

Dre had hits in the 80s with NWA and the Neptunes were working with Teddy Riley around the same time JD was putting out music

 

[_Goldie_]

In regard to Jermaine Dupri's legacy, he is underrated. I wouldn't put him in the ranks of Timbaland or The Neptunes, but Jermaine Dupri (along with Organized Noize and Dallas Austin) is responsible for shaping the sound of Atlanta. Lil' Jon came up under Jermaine Dupri and his first credits came on those So So Def Bass compilations. Kanye's first credits were on Jermaine Dupri's Life In 1472. There's an interview somewhere of Kanye admitting to biting JD's drums. "Turn It Out" (the song Kanye produced on Life In 1472) sounds like a JD production.

There's also the fact that JD produced the first female rapper to ever go platinum. He produced Kriss Kross and Bow Wow, but also worked with Biggie, LL Cool J, MC Lyte, and Lil' Kim. He's also got classics with Jay Z.

In terms of R&B, he gave us Xscape and Jagged Edge. At one point, Alicia Keys and Anthony Hamilton were his artists. His work with Usher, TLC, Monica, and Mariah Carey is classic and possibly at the forefront of his catalog as his biggest achievements.

With all that being said, how can you say JD isnt in the same ranks as the neptunes lol

Even MY Way is nearly diamond, he didnt produce every song on TEOM , but he did about half and ALL the hit records lol