Jay Z and Jay Electronica Souljaboy "We Made It" remake

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JDSTAYWITIT.;6891140 said:
sr_the_freshman;6891019 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6890777 said:
sr_the_freshman;6890508 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6890470 said:
Niggas really had me thinking this was gone be special (should've known better than to listen to you niggas) ....smh .... Shit was aiiiiite

Shiny Suit Theory>>>

As far as these two collaborating ...these bars ain't move me like that ...I guess niggas gassed cos it's some new JE

*shurgs*

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This comin' from the nigga who was cheerleading for YG just the other day. Only thing that moves niggas like you is a pair of 808s and catchy hooks fam.

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See this be that dumbass nigga shit I be talking about cuhz... I'm the same nigga who's been bumpin that madlib and Freddie Gibbs shit on repeat since I got it .... (Since you post stalking i assume you saw that right??.......... right??)

That shit ain't a buch of 808's and catchy hooks ... Although I would have like a little more thump that's just a personal preference ...shit dont stop me from being able to enjoy other styles of this rap shit unlike most of YOU cornball ass backpack type niggas I can appreciate different artist for different qualities specific to the individual ...

...I be in all threads givin all different types of shit a fair look ...not like a majority of niggas on here who shutter to step out of their comfort zone

lol stop it B. Nigga is so open to shit, yet in any given thread we can count on a lame off comment from you about how IC niggas are internet niggas or backpackers for preferring a spec of lyricism in their shit, and calling a spade a spade. As if your some outstanding member of the IC community, so in tune with what's relevant in the streets, and everyone else is just clueless. No real street nigga in 2014 uses wack ass collective terms like that. Thats how I can tell your a fraud. The music is either dope or it's not. It just so happens that the shit that is usually garbo just so happens to not have any lyrical value at all. IE YG.

Your whole shit is not about being open. Its about being some different nigga, unlike any other nigga on the board because you fuck with the mainstream joints, and think you know what the hoes fuck with. I don't know were your from, but around my way, no thot nor nigga is playing a YG cut in the whip, let alone buying a CD.

I just call em like I see em ..... I don't got time to be differentiating you clown ass niggas into no specific categories .. I put all of you niggas in the same shit bag

You gone come in here trying to get cute and shit with me ...making some way ass outta pocket statement that has no factual base when it's fact that I fuck with everything at least once and you think I'm not gone tell you about your dumbass self? Nah bruh take that shit to the next poster

And look at you still dribbling over yourself ...look at this dumbass shit "your whole thing is about being some different nigga" think about that..... lol.. what kinda sheep ass mentality shit is that to say? As if being a damn cardboard copy clone of 50million other niggas is some shit to take pride in ...lol ....you niggas man ...too fucking much lol ...(and u wonder why you get called a lame Internet nigga)

Bruh I'm about being me ..stating my opinions ...and liking shit that I like ...what kinda clown says "OHHHHH well these thots at aint bangin mc such n such so I can't fucks with it" lmao that's some clown nigga shit bruh im sorry and I'm not even tryna be disrespectful but since you keep saying all of this shit it's pretty clear I gotta check it ....but I love the fact that you have built a fuckig archive of my quotes ...it's funny to hear you recite all my shit back to me like a fan in the crowd ..

Look... its obvious ive struck a nerve with you ... but your going about it very sloppily Go back restudy my shit again and come back when you can put together something coherent nigga

Nigga, the whole shit went waaaay over your head, so Im'a keep this as basic as possible.

Your a lame try-hard.

The bolded is precisely the type of shit that comes out of your mouth in these threads, which was the whole point of my comment. Talking about how we backpackers are not in touch with whats going on off the net. Its the irony.

And don't be upset because niggas are pulling your wack ass card. lol nobody is clockin' your comments. You reiterate the same lame shit in every thread, its almost impossible to forget. And it doesn't take much to scroll down the front page to that YG thread, and many others to verify. I recall all comments with their respective commentators. Especially the moronic ones.

Ol' celebrity in my own mind ass nigga. Im done yo.
 
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rapmastermind;6891295 said:
"if you draw, better be Picasso, ya know, the best /

cause if this is not so ahh, god bless" - Jay Z 1997

When did some of you start listening to Jay? He's had art reference his whole career so Drake didn't even know what he was talking about in that rollingstone interview. This isn't new for Jay to bring up art references.

Name 2 more art references between Reasonable Doubt and American Gangster..

And ill name 5 more between Watch the Throne and MCHG.

 
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za'kiss;6891305 said:
tompetrez3;6891288 said:
Take that fucking ob4cl gif out your avatar. Jay E aint saying nothing new the wu wasnt saying on OB4CL. What do you think the song North Star is about. Poppa wu was preaching the same shit jay e was in 1995. You ainy even listen to OB4CL. You aint no real hip hop head. You not even black if Jay E verse blew your mind. Black progress gtfoh he just named some niggas you dumb mother fuckers should of already been famliar with. Niggas exposing themselves left and right in this thread.



Where did I say Jay E was the first five-percenter or pro-black conscious rapper? If you were actually a perceptive and intelligent poster, which it appears so far that you definitely are not, you would be able to see that my OB4CL avatar is evidence that I would like someone like Jay Electronica. In fact, who are my top 5 MCs? I'll tell you. 2Pac, Nas, Rakim, Lauryn Hill, and Mos Def. That should tell you that not only do I know that Jay E isn't the first rapper of his breed, but that it's precisely because he belongs to a tradition of mid 90s rap that I like him in the first place. He's one of the few MCs left in the game that's carrying on this tradition and I'm glad he dropped a great verse reflecting those ideas.

I'm not sure why I'm actually engaging you though, as if you might provide a thoughtful response. You've already shown yourself to be a troll at this point. But I might as well get this out there for the more level-headed readers out there that might misread my praise of Jay Elect.


No you just exposed yourself as a dumb ass nigga impressed by some bullshit mumbo jumbo jibberish that a 5 pretender nigga spitting. He god but he married a white bitch? What exactly was Jay Electronica saying since you are so intelligent. Please break down the black plight references in full detail since you niggas all enlightened all of the sudden
 
Jungz;6891322 said:
rapmastermind;6891295 said:
"if you draw, better be Picasso, ya know, the best /

cause if this is not so ahh, god bless" - Jay Z 1997

When did some of you start listening to Jay? He's had art reference his whole career so Drake didn't even know what he was talking about in that rollingstone interview. This isn't new for Jay to bring up art references.

Name 2 more art references between Reasonable Doubt and American Gangster..

And ill name 5 more between Watch the Throne and MCHG.

lol, sad but true

 
tompetrez3;6891288 said:
za'kiss;6891267 said:
JDSTAYWITIT.;6891032 said:
My dude rapping about coming from the bottom to the top ain't nothing new..... It's ESPECIALLY not even distinctive in the context of JE's general content .... Bruh we've all heard this nigga spit enough bars to know where he's going to go in regards of theme on damn near every verse ....we know that he's gonna slip in some 5% GB knowledge ..we know that he's going to tap on some historical reference ...it's like we know he doesn't stray too far outta pocket bruh ...with that being said his grace and what differentiates his lyrical ability as an MC from most.. is his inpecable flow and pacing in addition to his multis which were "cool" on this ..he came dope cos that's what he does.. but for you to be jumping up n down over the content like this shit is something different or atypical is just......mehhhh ...peculiar ...I suppose you can say

My point exactly was that "coming from the bottom to the top" ain't nothing new. I've said in this thread before that I'm not "surprised" by what Jay did on this verse. I know his approach and I always expect dopeness, but that doesn't make it any less dope to me how he flipped the track. Before he hopped on it, it was a typical run-of-the-mil "started from the bottom" track about materialism. Jay laid his five-percenter insight to bear on it and I think the results were interesting. For one, Jay often makes historical references in his raps, but that isn't the same as applying his perspective to the entire verse to deconstruct what the MC's had done on it before. On one level, he's talking about black progress, but on another, he's subverting and reinterpreting what the other MCs have said by saying the reason we really made it is because we've overcome centuries of oppression. Yes, he's very often on some positive, pro-black shit, but that doesn't undercut how clever and dope the verse was to me in relation to the specific theme he was addressing here.

JDSTAYWITIT.;6891032 said:
I guess niggas is just thirsty out here for some quality ...idk ...shit that niggas be going O.D. on just be buggin me out

But like you said ...I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree

We do just have disagree. Because although Jay has dealt with these topics before, I think he did it in this verse in a more cohesive and interesting way than he has done in the past. And for the record, a lot of his recent verses have been more introspective and psychedelic (topics ranging from conspiracy theories, personal demons, and Wizard of Oz type ish), so this actually is somewhat of a welcome callback to some of his earlier tracks (like Renaissance Man. In addition, some of the poetic phrasings on this track, such as going to the slaveship to the spaceship, while simple, were poignant to me in their simplicity).

Take that fucking ob4cl gif out your avatar. Jay E aint saying nothing new the wu wasnt saying on OB4CL. What do you think the song North Star is about. Poppa wu was preaching the same shit jay e was in 1995. You ainy even listen to OB4CL. You aint no real hip hop head. You not even black if Jay E verse blew your mind. Black progress gtfoh he just named some niggas you dumb mother fuckers should of already been famliar with. Niggas exposing themselves left and right in this thread.

At this point niggas might as well not do anything.

There should be no more music, films, cars, clothes, preachers, teachers, scientists

"That nigga Henry Ford already successfully made the car so idk what the fuck you doing"

Like come on it makes no sense

To dissect this verse in that way when you already know there is nothing new under the sun.

Before Wu there was Rakim before Rakim there was somebody he got the knowledge from and so on.

What makes anything great is a person's own interpretation and how they view the world around them.
 
tompetrez3;6891324 said:
No you just exposed yourself as a dumb ass nigga impressed by some bullshit mumbo jumbo jibberish that a 5 pretender nigga spitting. He god but he married a white bitch? What exactly was Jay Electronica saying since you are so intelligent. Please break down the black plight references in full detail since you niggas all enlightened all of the sudden



It's not a gibberish. It's not even that difficult to understand. You don't need a Ph.D to get it. The verse is about overcoming oppression. I actually broke down the verse a couple of times up thread. You quoted me and didn't respond to a single point. No problem. I think you just enjoy ranting.


 
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Jungz;6891322 said:
rapmastermind;6891295 said:
"if you draw, better be Picasso, ya know, the best /

cause if this is not so ahh, god bless" - Jay Z 1997

When did some of you start listening to Jay? He's had art reference his whole career so Drake didn't even know what he was talking about in that rollingstone interview. This isn't new for Jay to bring up art references.

Name 2 more art references between Reasonable Doubt and American Gangster..

And ill name 5 more between Watch the Throne and MCHG.

Friend or Foe

So please would you, put your hand back in sight

They don't like to see me nervous you can understand that, right?

You draw, better be Picasso, you know the best

Cause if this is not so, ah, God bless

You leave me no choice, I'll leave you no voice

Believe you me son:

I hate to do it just as bad as you hate to see it done

Now calm your boys

Cause I'm finding it a little hard to concentrate with all the noise

Get the point, I'll let you go

Before you leave, I guess I ought to let you know, I need those keys

And promise you never, no matter the weather

Everevereverevereverever come around here no more

Guns & Roses

Roc-a-wear I'm the young black Ralph Lauren

Every time I get out they put me right back in

The Michael Corleone of the microphone

The Michelangelo of flow I paint pictures with poems

I gather no moss like a rolling stone

Case the Grim Reaper visits my home, nigga I'm gone c'mon

So we gonna keep acting like this is a new phenomenon?
 
IceBergTaylor;6891342 said:
So we gonna keep acting like this is a new phenomenon?



I think his point is that those occasional references don't compare to how exhausted they were on his recent albums.


 
S2J;6889893 said:
4 pages and some nhgas cant realize its a shot. Yea, hip hop is dead.

1) He said Mrs Drizzy clear as day

2) Drake in that interview said 'all he raps about is art"

3) 'Sorry for tappin bout shyt i really own...ngga rapins bout guns they never shot'

You slow mo mfers need to leave us alone and let us bask in this hip hop moment nh lol

The shot is actually the low hanging fruit for the youngins. Both verses will need multiple listens to get everything. I.e. Jay got all of hip hop googling 'yacub'. This is legendary

good post bruh

its clearly a diss, he even rapped over a beat to a Drake song
 
IceBergTaylor;6891359 said:
They are exhausted but what would niggas rather him talk about? Guns he aint shootin or crack he aint sellin anymore?



I don't mind an art reference every now and then, but I felt like Jay was off his game lyrically on his past two albums. This made the art references more glaring becauase it was like he didn't really have anything else to talk about except collecting art and how wealthy he is. I don't know. I found it boring. I felt like his topics on Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, and The Black Album, for instance, were more varied and interesting.



 
Track is hardbody.

Jay didnt exactly revert back to Jigga with that verse but it's easily one of the most energetic verses he's released in quite some time. As far as his drake reference...it's honestly in drake's best interest to not take the bait but it's blood in the water as his name was once again used used on a track in disrespectful terms. That shows a lack of respect, he gotta go get that, win or lose.

Jay E went apeshit on that track too, verse was better than hov's but I'm not gonna get too excited because it takes the nigga so long to write a verse it should be dope. Holla at the me when he on that level consistently and not once every 5 months to a year.
 
I listened to this song quite a few times and there were allot of jewels dropped. I hope jayz would drop a conscious CD like kanye last CD but more lyrical.
 
Jungz;6891322 said:
rapmastermind;6891295 said:
"if you draw, better be Picasso, ya know, the best /

cause if this is not so ahh, god bless" - Jay Z 1997

When did some of you start listening to Jay? He's had art reference his whole career so Drake didn't even know what he was talking about in that rollingstone interview. This isn't new for Jay to bring up art references.

Name 2 more art references between Reasonable Doubt and American Gangster..

And ill name 5 more between Watch the Throne and MCHG.

As people have posted, he's had way more than 2 references before WTT and MCHG. The point is it's not new for Jay to make illusions and metaphors with art references. Just cause he's used it little more to fit the theme of his last album doesn't mean he's never done it or it's new for him cause it's not. He even had a warhol reference on "Already Home" on "Blueprint 3". The bottom line who is drake to be critiquing lyrics. He can't go 2 or more songs without sippin on some female. He has more simping bars than Jay has art references thus the line "Mrs. Drizzy". Drake be feeling himself too much. Same situation with him trying to talk slick about Luda's bars or trying to get at Common. Sell a few records, have some hit singles and now he feels he can have an opinion on everyone's rhymes. SMH.
 

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