Jay Z and Jay Electronica Souljaboy "We Made It" remake

[soul rattler]

I'm not gone air here and try to tell you that JE kicked a wack verse ...the nigga is a quality rapper I expect him to kick quality shit ... But nothing about that verse makes me want to "rewind" and say OHHHHH shit it just aint gass up worthy like that ....their last collab was gass worthy but not this bruh.. ya nigga @thirdeyefive quoted a bar about "from the cotton field to the spaceship" or some shit like that ...like that was some mind boggling shit or like it was some overly poignant statement ...like te nigga hasnt apit bars just like that before ...it's like nigga please JE be having the wizard of oz affect on dudes ...niggas probably think this nigga can fuckig levitate ...lol

Shit it's a good track but lol at this gass .... I'm just surprised that's all

If you don't think that's a straight murdered verse, I don't know what else to tell you. The way he subverted the original take on the song about making it from being poor to making money and banging bitches to make it about the history of black progress, "from the slaveship to the spaceship," and that this history, this struggle, is "The greatest story ever told, niggas in the field/From Solomon to Sambo to Django, it's fact," then to say "nigga we made it," that's to give the shit some real meaning my brother. I can't name anyone in rap right now that can compete at Jay E's level when he spits verses like that. The whole damn thing is quotable to me, which is why I quoted the whole verse. I think it's excellent and I'm glad he dropped this. You said it was "aiiight" and "nothin' special." I don't agree. I thought it was dope and a stand-out verse from Jay, which like I said, is saying something. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this.

Good someone said this before I did.

Could you imagine these new niggas in the mid 1900's? "Man that MLK speech wasn't all that. Just cause he talked about some shit he dreamed about yall wanna overrate it."

 

[a_list]

This shyt is pretty tough.....

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Yeah h3 def sais misses I thought he said mister

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

They fucking snapped!

I wasn't ready at all

Didn't even believe it was a real track

But man I ain't fucking with the reason.

They demolished this track and y'all discussing that one line? ?

I thought this was hip hop fam?

we skimming thru tracks now that's what in the streets.

And fuck what you heard. Imma enjoy this shit. I'm walk in class with this blaring out my headphones

 

[Max.]

Yooo jay elec is trash brah..said some slavery/cotton lines n yall flipped out..

 

[tompetrez3]

He called him a girl so what? And then you same bitch ass Jigga warriors be talking about ether was nothing but a bunch of elementary school insults. Double standard fuck niggas. What's the camel gonna call him next a meanie or butt head?

 

[rapmastermind]

Jay already ate Drake on "Light Up and Pound Cake", even hit him with some sublims "I had a benz before you had braces". Drake was way to cocky in that Rolling Stone interview and deserved to get touched. Jay has had art references in his raps since the 90's, people act like "Manga Carta" was the 1st time he's ever talked about art. But called him "Mrs. Drizzy" was an attack on his manhood and place into the narrative that Drake is soft and only sings. Drake made a terrible mistake dissing Hov in that interview. He basically bit the hand of one of his so called mentors. Of course Jay had to tap him and let him know what the deal is. As for Jay Elect, he takes years to drop a verse but at least when he finally drops it, it's worth it.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

This thread proves how divided hip hop is.

like I'm in awe at niggas thinking they didn't get busy.

But the same niggas will say

"he ass but the beat knock so its good enough for me"

When did the focus shift away from the lyrics my nigga?

And then if you genuinely like shit it gotta be gas?

Like it just can't be good for the sake of it actually being good

Niggas is never satisfied.

 

[Max.]

You should know I bleed Blue, but I ain't a Crip, though. But I got a gang of niggas walking with my clique though

IC : YOOOO THIS THE OLD JAY!!!! Reasonable doubt flow!!!

Hov!!!

 

[tompetrez3]

Jay already ate Drake on "Light Up and Pound Cake", even hit him with some sublims "I had a benz before you had braces". Drake was way to cocky in that Rolling Stone interview and deserved to get touched. Jay has had art references in his raps since the 90's, people act like "Manga Carta" was the 1st time he's ever talked about art. But called him "Mrs. Drizzy" was an attack on his manhood[\b] and place into the narrative that Drake is soft and only sings. Drake made a terrible mistake dissing Hov in that interview. He basically bit the hand of one of his so called mentors. Of course Jay had to tap him and let him know what the deal is. As for Jay Elect, he takes years to drop a verse but at least when he finally drops it, it's worth it.

What about when Game called Jay Z his bitch and his wife a whore in front of thousands, or when 50 said that jay Z made it cool to be a punk or when cam said he fucked and hooded out beyonce before he did? Jay Z didn't do or say shit back to none of these niggas. Stop hyping Jay z up to be some big scary nigga you don't wanna cross pass with. Jay Z is a punk that selects his battles. Nigga gonna attack drake on a Sunday 2 months after drake diss him and y'all in here cheerleading. This is pathetic

 

[DNB1]

Aye...Jay smacked up his verse. JE was nice. But facts is facts.

But anyway lol at you niggas...this ain't beef, just banter. Drake should respond, cleverly and on wax. Nothing more than tryna clown on a nigga on the court when y'all playin ball.

I been inoculated, from the snakes and the fakes and yo corny handshakes...

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Would you stfu already

 

[tompetrez3]

Would you stfu already

will yall swallow jay z cum already?

 

[za'kiss]

My dude rapping about coming from the bottom to the top ain't nothing new..... It's ESPECIALLY not even distinctive in the context of JE's general content .... Bruh we've all heard this nigga spit enough bars to know where he's going to go in regards of theme on damn near every verse ....we know that he's gonna slip in some 5% GB knowledge ..we know that he's going to tap on some historical reference ...it's like we know he doesn't stray too far outta pocket bruh ...with that being said his grace and what differentiates his lyrical ability as an MC from most.. is his inpecable flow and pacing in addition to his multis which were "cool" on this ..he came dope cos that's what he does.. but for you to be jumping up n down over the content like this shit is something different or atypical is just......mehhhh ...peculiar ...I suppose you can say

My point exactly was that "coming from the bottom to the top" ain't nothing new. I've said in this thread before that I'm not "surprised" by what Jay did on this verse. I know his approach and I always expect dopeness, but that doesn't make it any less dope to me how he flipped the track. Before he hopped on it, it was a typical run-of-the-mil "started from the bottom" track about materialism. Jay laid his five-percenter insight to bear on it and I think the results were interesting. For one, Jay often makes historical references in his raps, but that isn't the same as applying his perspective to the entire verse to deconstruct what the MC's had done on it before. On one level, he's talking about black progress, but on another, he's subverting and reinterpreting what the other MCs have said by saying the reason we really made it is because we've overcome centuries of oppression. Yes, he's very often on some positive, pro-black shit, but that doesn't undercut how clever and dope the verse was to me in relation to the specific theme he was addressing here.

I guess niggas is just thirsty out here for some quality ...idk ...shit that niggas be going O.D. on just be buggin me out

But like you said ...I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree

We do just have to disagree. Because although Jay has dealt with these topics before, I think he did it in this verse in a more cohesive and interesting way than he has done in the past. And for the record, a lot of his recent verses have been more introspective and psychedelic (topics ranging from conspiracy theories, personal demons, and Wizard of Oz type ish), so this actually is somewhat of a welcome callback to some of his earlier tracks (like Renaissance Man for instance). In addition, some of the poetic phrasings on this track, such as going to the slaveship to the spaceship, while simple, were poignant to me in their simplicity).

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Would you stfu already

will yall swallow jay z cum already?

The fact you had this gay thought doesnt surprise me.

I remember you posted a gif of 2 men kissing.

Carry on.

 

[texasdaking88]

Would you stfu already

will yall swallow jay z cum already?

its always some gay shit wit u, huh?

 

[tompetrez3]

My dude rapping about coming from the bottom to the top ain't nothing new..... It's ESPECIALLY not even distinctive in the context of JE's general content .... Bruh we've all heard this nigga spit enough bars to know where he's going to go in regards of theme on damn near every verse ....we know that he's gonna slip in some 5% GB knowledge ..we know that he's going to tap on some historical reference ...it's like we know he doesn't stray too far outta pocket bruh ...with that being said his grace and what differentiates his lyrical ability as an MC from most.. is his inpecable flow and pacing in addition to his multis which were "cool" on this ..he came dope cos that's what he does.. but for you to be jumping up n down over the content like this shit is something different or atypical is just......mehhhh ...peculiar ...I suppose you can say

My point exactly was that "coming from the bottom to the top" ain't nothing new. I've said in this thread before that I'm not "surprised" by what Jay did on this verse. I know his approach and I always expect dopeness, but that doesn't make it any less dope to me how he flipped the track. Before he hopped on it, it was a typical run-of-the-mil "started from the bottom" track about materialism. Jay laid his five-percenter insight to bear on it and I think the results were interesting. For one, Jay often makes historical references in his raps, but that isn't the same as applying his perspective to the entire verse to deconstruct what the MC's had done on it before. On one level, he's talking about black progress, but on another, he's subverting and reinterpreting what the other MCs have said by saying the reason we really made it is because we've overcome centuries of oppression. Yes, he's very often on some positive, pro-black shit, but that doesn't undercut how clever and dope the verse was to me in relation to the specific theme he was addressing here.

I guess niggas is just thirsty out here for some quality ...idk ...shit that niggas be going O.D. on just be buggin me out

But like you said ...I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree

We do just have disagree. Because although Jay has dealt with these topics before, I think he did it in this verse in a more cohesive and interesting way than he has done in the past. And for the record, a lot of his recent verses have been more introspective and psychedelic (topics ranging from conspiracy theories, personal demons, and Wizard of Oz type ish), so this actually is somewhat of a welcome callback to some of his earlier tracks (like Renaissance Man. In addition, some of the poetic phrasings on this track, such as going to the slaveship to the spaceship, while simple, were poignant to me in their simplicity).

Take that fucking ob4cl gif out your avatar. Jay E aint saying nothing new the wu wasnt saying on OB4CL. What do you think the song North Star is about. Poppa wu was preaching the same shit jay e was in 1995. You ainy even listen to OB4CL. You aint no real hip hop head. You not even black if Jay E verse blew your mind. Black progress gtfoh he just named some niggas you dumb mother fuckers should of already been famliar with. Niggas exposing themselves left and right in this thread.

 

[rapmastermind]

"if you draw, better be Picasso, ya know, the best /

cause if this is not so ahh, god bless" - Jay Z 1997

When did some of you start listening to Jay? He's had art reference his whole career so Drake didn't even know what he was talking about in that rollingstone interview. This isn't new for Jay to bring up art references.

 

[texasdaking88]

So.......... in other words, some niggas ain't impressed by anything unless a nigga translating cuneiforms...

 

[za'kiss]

Take that fucking ob4cl gif out your avatar. Jay E aint saying nothing new the wu wasnt saying on OB4CL. What do you think the song North Star is about. Poppa wu was preaching the same shit jay e was in 1995. You ainy even listen to OB4CL. You aint no real hip hop head. You not even black if Jay E verse blew your mind. Black progress gtfoh he just named some niggas you dumb mother fuckers should of already been famliar with. Niggas exposing themselves left and right in this thread.

Where did I say Jay E was the first five-percenter or pro-black conscious rapper? If you were actually a perceptive and intelligent poster, which it appears so far that you definitely are not, you would be able to see that my OB4CL avatar is evidence that I would like someone like Jay Electronica. In fact, who are my top 5 MCs? I'll tell you. 2Pac, Nas, Rakim, Lauryn Hill, and Mos Def. That should tell you that not only do I know that Jay E isn't the first rapper of his breed, but that it's precisely because he belongs to a strong tradition of mid 90s rap that I like him in the first place. He's one of the few MCs left in the game that's carrying on this tradition and I'm glad he dropped a great verse reflecting those ideas.

I'm not sure why I'm actually engaging you though, as if you might provide a thoughtful response. You've already shown yourself to be a troll at this point. But I might as well get this out for the more level-headed readers out there.