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Disciplined InSight
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mohamed;5312673 said:its funny how niggas is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out Jayhova Witnesses was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you
Fixed for accuracy.
...and you're a liar.
almighty breeze
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Kingdom Come- 2006: Wack 4/10; 2.5/5
American Gangster- 2007: Great 8.5/10; 4.25/5
Blueprint 3- 2009: Enh 6/10; 3/5
Watch the Throne- 2011: Very Good 8/10; 4/5
some dope features i can remember
Black Republicans- 2006
The Joy- 2010
Maybach Music- 2008
So Appalled- 2010
I Do- 2012
Light Up- 2010
Mr. Carter- 2008
Free Mason- 2010
Watch What You Say To Me- 2007
I Wanna Rock-2010
Upgrade U- 2006
Power (Remix)-2010
Hot Toddy- 2010
Clique-2012
Put On (Remix)- 2009
Monster-2010
idk. i cant see it. i think Jay's just lost a lot of aggression and he's way more visible now. throws off perception. being that he was never super aggressive esp compared to X or 50 & others who were popular during the time period he debuted/blew up. I think he says a lot more & uses less words but at the same time he's lost a little off the fastball & lost a lil intensity.
i dont want "Reasonable Doubt" Jay but i'd be very excited to hear Come & Get Me, People Talkin, Watcher II Jay-Z
American Gangster- 2007: Great 8.5/10; 4.25/5
Blueprint 3- 2009: Enh 6/10; 3/5
Watch the Throne- 2011: Very Good 8/10; 4/5
some dope features i can remember
Black Republicans- 2006
The Joy- 2010
Maybach Music- 2008
So Appalled- 2010
I Do- 2012
Light Up- 2010
Mr. Carter- 2008
Free Mason- 2010
Watch What You Say To Me- 2007
I Wanna Rock-2010
Upgrade U- 2006
Power (Remix)-2010
Hot Toddy- 2010
Clique-2012
Put On (Remix)- 2009
Monster-2010
idk. i cant see it. i think Jay's just lost a lot of aggression and he's way more visible now. throws off perception. being that he was never super aggressive esp compared to X or 50 & others who were popular during the time period he debuted/blew up. I think he says a lot more & uses less words but at the same time he's lost a little off the fastball & lost a lil intensity.
i dont want "Reasonable Doubt" Jay but i'd be very excited to hear Come & Get Me, People Talkin, Watcher II Jay-Z
Jay's story is great but awful for hiphop. Who will be able to even come close to doing what he has? I mean rappers drop albums all the time but they'll never be considered as great as Jay. People talk about old rappers but Jay at 45 years old can still sell out arenas today! Hiphop fans are confused! That's why I listen for good music and don't judge based on business moves
T. Sanford
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Usmarine aka Captain Save-A-J
Save J. Cole, save Jay. E, save Jay-Z
Save J. Cole, save Jay. E, save Jay-Z
Built 4 cuban linx
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I think American gangster is one of his better albums
rapmusic;5313473 said:Jay's story is great but awful for hiphop. Who will be able to even come close to doing what he has? I mean rappers drop albums all the time but they'll never be considered as great as Jay. People talk about old rappers but Jay at 45 years old can still sell out arenas today! Hiphop fans are confused! That's why I listen for good music and don't judge based on business moves
That's gonna be difficult cuz Jay was blessed by living in the commercial golden age of hip hop and making the best moves possible. Ironically he was in the same class as G Rap, Kane and Rakim, but got held back to the Pac/Big/Nas class, and didn't really get successful til the DMX/Em/Nelly class. Anyways, the industry is in such shambles, that an artist can come out and clearly rap better and make better music than Jay, but will never see his success. We're gonna have to wait another 20 years for that.
qtipp73;5311023 said:niggas mad cuz good NY rappers still care about lyrics over club bullshit music. yall can have all that lean wit it type garbage. I will take lyrics and NY sounding production over that shit anytime.
You mean the old ones. lol
The likes of Nas, Ghost and Rae can still make music cause they dropped classics. Them other underachieving ones, nah. They got old and their music is the same shit. When you refuse to evolve, people just stop listening to you.
Turfaholic
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kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how niggas gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC niggas hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how niggas gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC niggas hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
killaguwop
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Turfaholic;5313969 said:kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how niggas gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC niggas hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
i guess rapping about wanna be forever young with some ugly peckerwood singing chorus is called musical growth.
Usmarine, wake me up when Jay drops and album tighter than life is good going forward
Lol @ the TS for this thread. Really? How could he have not falling off if a westcoast rapper more known for name dropping has a more consistant catalog than Jay since 05?
* waits for Tromp to come give this thread a complete earthquake post *
Lol @ the TS for this thread. Really? How could he have not falling off if a westcoast rapper more known for name dropping has a more consistant catalog than Jay since 05?
* waits for Tromp to come give this thread a complete earthquake post *
DR. JEK;5314073 said:Usmarine, wake me up when Jay drops and album tighter than life is good going forward
Lol @ the TS for this thread. Really? How could he have not falling off if a westcoast rapper more known for name dropping has a more consistant catalog than Jay since 05?
* waits for Tromp to come give this thread a complete earthquake post *
Wake me up when Life is Wood stops playing. You delusional and small time Nas fans seem to think Nas career or existence is relevant to where Jay is now. Nas is damn near a niche dapper now, jay out here opening doors for hiphop.
Nas can make a album like LIG because his fanbase ain't diverse,they're backpacker fans. Jay fanbase is way more diverse, from backpackers, club heads, radio heads, etc. He just doesn't make taps for niggas who are stuck in 94
king hassan
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LOL I'm watching "VH1 Soul" and Hawaiian Sophie with Jaz and Jay Z is on right now
usmarin3;5314103 said:Wake me up when Life is Wood stops playing. You delusional and small time Nas fans seem to think Nas career or existence is relevant to where Jay is now. Nas is damn near a niche dapper now, jay out here opening doors for hiphop.
Nas can make a album like LIG because his fanbase ain't diverse,they're backpacker fans. Jay fanbase is way more diverse, from backpackers, club heads, radio heads, etc. He just doesn't make taps for niggas who are stuck in 94
This nigga ... LOL
Yall can hit that feeling button all you want but you know Hats career has triumphed Nas. Got to burn knowing that jay has gotten the acclaim and success that he thought he deserved.
Don't day no shit like that doesn't mean shit to Nas either because he was whining about that on Life is Wood
Don't day no shit like that doesn't mean shit to Nas either because he was whining about that on Life is Wood
DOPEdweebz
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DR. JEK;5314118 said:Is that why jay been wack for the most part since 03,
He don't make music for everybody, I don't know nobody that fucks with jay musically in this day and age except surburban white kids
Alot of surburban "white kids" are also black kids these days. The world has changed. Every culture is becoming more assimilated by generation, but that's a whole different topic.
