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KingGivBiz;5314137 said:DR. JEK;5314118 said:Is that why jay been wack for the most part since 03,
He don't make music for everybody, I don't know nobody that fucks with jay musically in this day and age except surburban white kids
Alot of surburban "white kids" are also black kids these days. The world has changed. Every culture is becoming more assimilated by generation, but that's a whole different topic.
yeah, the black kids today dress up like rock stars n all.
Create a jay-z trend and it always do numbers. That alone shows you his relevance status.
Jay-z is still nice to me, he stop being a technical rapper really since RD. Why there is so much hate for Jay is beyond me.
He can still drop a solo album and it do numbers, funny thing if he puts out a hood album niggas going to be like "why is jay talking about being in the hood and he is super rich hanging with the white folks"
T/s needs to more or less set up his definition of what he means by relevance for a appropriate answer to be given. If he means by numbers of sold records then 50 cent is more relevant since he sold more than Jay (Nelly included) if he means by records sold recently, then what time frame since WTT came out last year and honestly the only other NY rapper is Nicki who is selling.
Jay-z is still nice to me, he stop being a technical rapper really since RD. Why there is so much hate for Jay is beyond me.
He can still drop a solo album and it do numbers, funny thing if he puts out a hood album niggas going to be like "why is jay talking about being in the hood and he is super rich hanging with the white folks"
T/s needs to more or less set up his definition of what he means by relevance for a appropriate answer to be given. If he means by numbers of sold records then 50 cent is more relevant since he sold more than Jay (Nelly included) if he means by records sold recently, then what time frame since WTT came out last year and honestly the only other NY rapper is Nicki who is selling.
Turfaholic
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killaguwop;5314025 said:Turfaholic;5313969 said:kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how niggas gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC niggas hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
i guess rapping about wanna be forever young with some ugly peckerwood singing chorus is called musical growth.
killaguwop;5314025 said:Turfaholic;5313969 said:kingdom come was dope simply based on how he clapped Cam n Jimmy
BP3 was dope too. I don't see how niggas gonna hate on Jay for showing musical growth. "We was supposed to takeover, I caught her bumping ether" IC niggas hate them sum Jay z boy I tell ya
i guess rapping about wanna be forever young with some ugly peckerwood singing chorus is called musical growth.
u must be wanna them niggas that only check for beats. what person on this earth wouldn't wanna b young forever? shit was like the toys r us anthem for the 2000s. you "I don't like him cuz he's white" niggas needa wake up n smell the dream.
IceBergTaylor
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Lol at "go to a Nas show and I bet theres more niggas there"
You wanna see mad niggas (pause) go to Jay's show tonight at the Barclays.
You wanna see mad niggas (pause) go to Jay's show tonight at the Barclays.
blueprint 3 was a progressive album. Lyrically jay was sharp on "what we talking about" and "thank you". He gave you an anthem in "empire state of mind". He gave you a club banger in "on to the next". You got introspective songs in "so ambitious", "a star is born', "already home". You got a nice head nodding track in "off that" and a fun track in "hate"( he went in on the low). Also "forever young" a good song in a chill party setting with white college girls (trust me). The only track i wasnt feeling was "reminder" and so ambitious personally and the jeezy song. The album wasnt his best work but its has a polished sound to it and it didnt sound forced.
mohamed;5314201 said:blueprint 3 was a progressive album. Lyrically jay was sharp on "what we talking about" and "thank you". He gave you an anthem in "empire state of mind". He gave you a club banger in "on to the next". You got introspective songs in "so ambitious", "a star is born', "already home". You got a nice head nodding track in "off that" and a fun track in "hate"( he went in on the low). Also "forever young" a good song in a chill party setting with white college girls (trust me). The only track i wasnt feeling was "reminder" and so ambitious personally and the jeezy song. The album wasnt his best work but its has a polished sound to it and it didnt sound forced.
I agree he was lyrically efficient but the beats on that album were atrocious save for 'Thank You' IMO
and that's when he started leaning towards that Euro sound.
Remember 'Ghetto Techno' was left outta the album?
Chase N Bundlez
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Hov the GOAT no matter how much u Nas stans try to counter:
Sales
Influence
Lyrically
Longevity
Financially
Body of work
Respect from peers
Achievements in and out of the music industry
^^^^Top 5 in all those aspects, no other rapper can say the same...not one. Every other rapper has a flaw.
Nas might be top 5 in some of those categories, but not all of em *cough-financially-cough*
Pay homage niggas.
Sales
Influence
Lyrically
Longevity
Financially
Body of work
Respect from peers
Achievements in and out of the music industry
^^^^Top 5 in all those aspects, no other rapper can say the same...not one. Every other rapper has a flaw.
Nas might be top 5 in some of those categories, but not all of em *cough-financially-cough*
Pay homage niggas.
dalyricalbandit
Moderator
Hov the GOAT
rip.dilla;5314224 said:mohamed;5314201 said:blueprint 3 was a progressive album. Lyrically jay was sharp on "what we talking about" and "thank you". He gave you an anthem in "empire state of mind". He gave you a club banger in "on to the next". You got introspective songs in "so ambitious", "a star is born', "already home". You got a nice head nodding track in "off that" and a fun track in "hate"( he went in on the low). Also "forever young" a good song in a chill party setting with white college girls (trust me). The only track i wasnt feeling was "reminder" and so ambitious personally and the jeezy song. The album wasnt his best work but its has a polished sound to it and it didnt sound forced.
I agree he was lyrically efficient but the beats on that album were atrocious save for 'Thank You' IMO
and that's when he started leaning towards that Euro sound.
Remember 'Ghetto Techno' was left outta the album?
The "what we talking about" production was dope. If you didnt do at least a two step to "on to the next in the club".. youre a lie. The only productions I didnt like were so ambitious(lazy pharrell) and reminder. *shugs*
edit- Ghetto techno wasnt that bad. it was a club song." Off that" was pratically the same song. haha
BP3 was crack productionwise, fuck niggas is talkin bout. It's just that he dumbed down even further and tried to hide his lack of lyrical creativity with some kind of progressive message. Niggas can see thru that bullshit and see that he was rappin about money in every song. Every song.
