It's crazy how Jay's the only NY rapper that never fell off

[ohhhla]

Is it me or is the IC full of Nas stans?

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Using the same logic lil wanye is G.O.A.T

 

[_Goldie_]

Using the same logic lil wanye is G.O.A.T

Just ethered this whole thread with this

Weezy´s first album was plat and his last went plat in a week..

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Yes. Yes.

Let the feelings rain down on you.

 

[killaguwop]

jay-z didn't fall off lyrically he just became old and that young hustla/balla persona doesn't fit him too well that's why he sounds like he is trying too hard on songs like 3 kings and clique but still he went in on watch the throne.

 

[twentyfivelighters]

inb4 tomp

 

[killaguwop]

comparing between jay-z and lil wayne always had the same answer.

 

[N YO HOOD]

cant really say he fell off musically when he is still one of the few rappers that can sell out a stadium show where people come to hear music

 

[Like Water]

The reason why jay has been more successful than them washed 90s niggas is because he switched up hid sound and never limited himself to dusty boom nap back packers. Niggas likeNas marginalized their audience and pigeonholed themselves. That's why when Nas makes singles with Chris Brown, Kerry Hilson,etc itdoesnt work.

Not true. Jay-Z's business moves and his relationship with Beyonce gave his brand waaaaay more relevancy than he would've had by now. Jay-Z is a brand his name alone will sell records. He gained alot more female fans and Beyonce fans when he hooked up with her too. Same thing with Swizz when he got with Alicia. Not that it's a bad thing but don't sit there and act like Jay-Z would've been that popular still if those things didn't happen. That's why Jay-Z can be gone for 5 years without dropping albums and still remain "out there" and still do big shows. It's not cuz of his music per se.

Funny tho how relevancy is measured in popularity. A rapper is irrelevant to me when i'm no longer interested in his music or what he has to say, not cuz he isn't as popular, isn't selling as many records and not trendy anymore.

How can Nas be irrelevant when he dropped prolly the best hip-hop album this year? I loved Hip Hop Is Dead and Nigger too so he always has and always will catch my ear as a fan. He's here strictly based off of his music. Not cuz who he's married with, not cuz of his sponsors, not cuz of his clothing line, not cuz he sold this many records, not cuz of his investments etc. When you think of Nas you think of his music and lyricsm before anything else, so if you call a 20 year career strictly off his music irrelevant while being a true MC who never really did those big numbers anyway then i unno what to tell ya..

/thread.

Plus I wanted to punch Jay in the face when I heard that terrible 3 Kings verse.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

in time everyone falls off...jay has fallen down a couple notches but honestly his peak (and a few others) was so much higher than these other rap dudes that him falling a few notches still makes him way better than most. he still does it at a very high level

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

While this might be a troll thread the t/s is missing a huge point. Most rappers from any region have fell off if your looking at just sales (which the t/s is doing). From the south guys like andre 3000 and big boi can't go gold even when they sitll make the same quality music they make. Look at the midwest nelly aint still going gold. Can you name 1 90's west coast legend that even dropped an album in the past 2 years that went gold?

You can say all this stuff about new york this and new york that but every other regions legends are mia or not apprecaited even tho they continue to make dope music.

 

[Nah Son]

Big Jay fan but if you just look at the last three solo albums he dropped, one was great (AG) and two of them was wack (KC, BP3) so he definitely has had his ups and downs

 

[TheFix]

I don't know if anyone said this, but the short answer is... He keeps himself relevant by attatching himself to what's poppin at the time. His music has taken a step backward(but he's still nice), but if you want to know the secret to jay-z's success, just look around him.

 

[mohamed]

its funny how niggas is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out niggas was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you

 

[FrankOceanIsGay]

If you're from nyc u remember the running joke between hot 97 & wbls introducing the new lauryn hill single "if i ruled the world".. Nas was a running industry joke..

 

[Nah Son]

its funny how niggas is talking bout bp3 is wack but i remember when it came out niggas was on here saying how it was a decent album...boy i tell you

I dont give a f but people was sayin in here I been sayin its wack from day one son

 

[killaguwop]

kingdom come is better than bp3 which makes it his worst album but d.o.a is my shit.

 

[ohhhla]

Kingdom Come was not wack.

 

[soulbrother]

Kingdom Come was not wack.

you should be banned for that statement...

 

[1CK1S]

Kingdom Come was not wack.

you should be banned for that statement...

Damn y'all really got homie banned!!!

& as long as the jigga warriors ride for him he'll never fall off!!!