its almost 2011 and most rappers have yet to become rapper SLASH producers?

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That would require a lot of work/ trial and error that many people probably aren't willing to go through when they can just pay someone else to make something they like. If you've ever taken business courses or worked certain jobs...there comes a time when have to make a "Make or Buy" decision...is it more beneficial to you to Produce or have that job Outsourced? In the long run an artist could probably make more money if they become good or excellent at both, but is the time spent building that craft worth it? Most people won't be good at both...and in this culture most people will go with the quick money option (rapping) b/c it takes less effort (you can say anything as long as people like your sound...pay the producer...even though the beat carries the song you can make a lot of cake performing it, etc.) than actually making good beats. People don't care about being a multi-talented artist more than they care about making a quick buck...and the money from rapping is probably "good enough" for those who don't want to put in the extra effort.

I personally think doing both is definitely a good look though.
 
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Mrslim1;1701927 said:
What I am sayin . Is that these beats and music where made with beat machines and sampled sounds. Its not like you can say " Derrick Hodge was on bass " or " Chris " Daddy" Dave was on drums ". Hip Hop as a whole doesnt have alot of instrumentation and musicianship.

so you're telling me keyboard players are not instrumentalists? most of the sounds are probably synthesized
 
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yaboytheflashh;1704065 said:
so you're telling me keyboard players are not instrumentalists? most of the sounds are probably synthesized, but even if they were sampled, it's triggered with a keyboard or something.

Yes keyboard player are instrumentalist . I am talking about players that can actually play . Meaning that can play that sampled melody on a piano. They dont have to read music ( some great musicians thru time can play by ear ). But knowing how to play an instrument well and thoroughly is an advantage . And there are not alot of Hip Hop producers that are great musicians . Only a hand full
 
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Mrslim1;1704096 said:
Yes keyboard player are instrumentalist . I am talking about players that can actually play . Meaning that can play that sampled melody on a piano. They dont have to read music ( some great musicians thru time can play by ear ). But knowing how to play an instrument well and thoroughly is an advantage . And there are not alot of Hip Hop producers that are great musicians . Only a hand full

I will bet you tree fiddy that those melodies were not sampled. tryna act like you know everything just makes you look stupid b.
 
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NeighberHoodPusher;1704120 said:
shit is harder that it sounds

I agree making beats is very difficult . But learning how to play those beats with instruments is 10 times as hard . If the music ability of Hip Hop producer as a whole was on that level IMO the genre MUSICALLY would be even greater than it is
 
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yaboytheflashh;1704155 said:
I will bet you tree fiddy that those melodies were not sampled. tryna act like you know everything just makes you look stupid b.

Come on bro we where having a good back and forth . No need to for the name calling and all that. But I actually do play the piano and drums so I know a lil of what I speak of brother .
 
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Mrslim1;1704176 said:
Come on bro we where having a good back and forth . No need to for the name calling and all that. But I actually do play the piano and drums so I know a lil of what I speak of brother .

hahaha we cool
 
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yaboytheflashh;1704215 said:
hahaha we cool

Its all good brother . Like i said it was a good debate . We can agree to disagree and thats cool but the lil extra no need for that my dude .
 
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