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TheEyeronic1;5900429 said:lol it clearly isn't about will and his son making a movie. everyone is saying that the movie is wack.
nobody said much when The Pursuit of Happiness came out because it was actually a good film.
The Lonious Monk;5900379 said:playmaker88;5900325 said:so nepotism is a problem when black people do it.. shiiiiiiiiiit check ya locale...
People complain about nepotism when white people do it too, especially when the person benefitting from the nepotism doesn't seem to be worthy of what they are receiving.
kai_valya;5900509 said:Copper;5900441 said:Hey people the thread is about the overboard critism ...not how good the actual film is...everyone agreed its not that great
so if it's bad, doesn't it deserve all the criticism it gets?
on the flip side why should we as black people accept mediocrity and praise it just cuz black people are involved?
also, lately at least, critics have not been kind to any m. night shamaylan's (sp?) movies. so i think this is more about his crappy directing than it is will or jaden's bad acting
Muhannad X;5900521 said:The Lonious Monk;5900379 said:playmaker88;5900325 said:so nepotism is a problem when black people do it.. shiiiiiiiiiit check ya locale...
People complain about nepotism when white people do it too, especially when the person benefitting from the nepotism doesn't seem to be worthy of what they are receiving.
Name a recent example...
The Lonious Monk;5900499 said:Copper;5900481 said:The Lonious Monk;5900445 said:Copper;5900395 said:The Lonious Monk;5900379 said:playmaker88;5900325 said:so nepotism is a problem when black people do it.. shiiiiiiiiiit check ya locale...
People complain about nepotism when white people do it too, especially when the person benefitting from the nepotism doesn't seem to be worthy of what they are receiving.
I've heard it several times in the past few weeks.....give one example of critics going at a white person for it
Charlie Sheen and most of the Baldwin brothers have been criticized for that in the past. And it's not just the nepotism that's the issue. If that's the case you would have heard all those complaints surrounding the Karate Kid movie too since that was basically Will and Jada pushing a movie to get their son out there. This one is catching so much flack because the nepotism is so blatant. It's not a simple instance of Will having a movie and giving his son a key role. It's essentially a movie where Will is using his star power to push something that's constructed in a way solely to showcase his son. Even most of these white people don't go about thing like that. They try to ease their family members into the spotlight not shove them down everyone's throats.
With the sheens and Baldwin's its considered a family business not nepotism....the kardashians, Hilton's and miley Cyrus is the same shit no one complains....and its not being shoved down anyone throats...after earth is an after thought as
Far as summer films go...another example of overreaching criticism... reality shows with the same family members as spinoffs are being shoved down America's through though
I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. Hollywood isn't a family business. The Sheens and the Baldwins don't own that shit, and they all didn't get into it on their own merits. One got on and reached back and opened doors for the others. That's nepotism. Is it bad, not necessarily, but that's what it is.
And what do you mean After Earth is not being shoved down anyone's throats. For goodness sake, you couldn't even watch the NBA Playoffs without seeing it 100 times, and Will and Jayden have been hitting every talk show circuit known boosting that movie. If it's an after though, it's only because the movie sucks not because they didn't do their damnedest to build it up like a summer blockbuster.
kai_valya;5900509 said:Copper;5900441 said:Hey people the thread is about the overboard critism ...not how good the actual film is...everyone agreed its not that great
so if it's bad, doesn't it deserve all the criticism it gets?
on the flip side why should we as black people accept mediocrity and praise it just cuz black people are involved?
also, lately at least, critics have not been kind to any m. night shamaylan's (sp?) movies. so i think this is more about his crappy directing than it is will or jaden's bad acting
illestni99ainne;5900538 said:When angelina jolie did a movie with jon voigt all you heard was finally father and daughter reunited. Ain't it grand? But when will and jayden make a movie together its nepotism? Man fuck deez kkkrackaz. Imma go support
Copper;5900550 said:I never said they owned Hollywood I said people considered acting as their family businesses... and promoting a film is what every actor does for their movie
The Lonious Monk;5900530 said:Muhannad X;5900521 said:The Lonious Monk;5900379 said:playmaker88;5900325 said:so nepotism is a problem when black people do it.. shiiiiiiiiiit check ya locale...
People complain about nepotism when white people do it too, especially when the person benefitting from the nepotism doesn't seem to be worthy of what they are receiving.
Name a recent example...
George W. Bush...
Why do I have to give a recent example. The point is white people have been criticized for it before. If you really think it's all about race and not the quality of the movie and how it was put together, then please tell me where were these articles in the three other movies Will has used his name to get Jayden put on.
The Lonious Monk;5900556 said:illestni99ainne;5900538 said:When angelina jolie did a movie with jon voigt all you heard was finally father and daughter reunited. Ain't it grand? But when will and jayden make a movie together its nepotism? Man fuck deez kkkrackaz. Imma go support
What? How does that apply whatsoever? Angelina Jolie was already a name in Hollywood before that happened. And they said "finally father and daughter reunited" not because they were doing a movie together but because they were estranged and didn't really have a relationship with each other. So this has no bearing on the convo at hand.
Copper;5900550 said:I never said they owned Hollywood I said people considered acting as their family businesses... and promoting a film is what every actor does for their movie
Then your argument is nonexistent. Pointing out that the Sheens and Baldwins have made it the "family thing" to be an actor doesn't change the fact that there was some nepotism involved especially concerning getting some of the less talented members involved. And pointing out that all movies are promoted doesn't refute the fact that this movie was shoved down our throats.
Muhannad X;5900564 said:The Lonious Monk;5900530 said:Muhannad X;5900521 said:The Lonious Monk;5900379 said:playmaker88;5900325 said:so nepotism is a problem when black people do it.. shiiiiiiiiiit check ya locale...
People complain about nepotism when white people do it too, especially when the person benefitting from the nepotism doesn't seem to be worthy of what they are receiving.
Name a recent example...
George W. Bush...
Why do I have to give a recent example. The point is white people have been criticized for it before. If you really think it's all about race and not the quality of the movie and how it was put together, then please tell me where were these articles in the three other movies Will has used his name to get Jayden put on.
You made a statement so I asked you to back it up wit facts...
Hollywood is built on nepotism but now all of a sudden it's a problem. I think there are some racial undertones in some of these reviews (not taking away from the fact that movie is prob. wack)...
I'll take ya'Il opinion on that movie being wack though. Still I wanna see the movie for myself to really form an opinion on the movie and if the criticism was just.