Is Vince McMahon Racist?

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NothingButTheTruth;5812180 said:
jono;5810742 said:
Nah, I think he doesn't have black champions for the same reason there aren't any big time black superheroes, simply put: little white kids can't live vicariously through them.

That's the biggest plus on the side of Cena right now, a small white boy sees Cena as a superhero (to be honest kids of all races do) and can live vicariously through him but that feeling might not be the same for a black wrestler.

Niggas are already talking about the coulda-beens and there's always something the "coulda-been" did wrong. I don't see things that way, I see it as Vince not wanting to take the chance. The only guys that shot themselves in the foot was maybe Lashley (by quitting) and Ahmed Johnson (repeated injuries), everyone else deserves at least a SHOT.

Think about that for a second, blacks rarely even get title MATCHES, let alone win the strap. I guess I'm gonna have to change my vote to Yes now lol. I just thought about that.

So white kids can't live through black wrestlers, but black kids can live through white wrestlers? That shit doesn't make sense. Plus kids are color blind; they only care about the personality and the persona.

I was speaking with some kids (obviously black) at the barbershop about 5 months ago about wrestling, and they hated R-Truth, but loved Cena.

Black kids are...let's not take this word literally but conditioned to accept white superheroism. All the "cool" heroes are white anyway...haven't you noticed? Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Hulk Hogan etc. There never has been a huge undertaking to make a black equivalent of either of them.

Your argument that kids are color-blind has been proven wrong decades ago. The study with the Black girls with white dolls proved that. Blacks are just used to white heroes and role models, that's just how it is.
 
piper one of my favorites but he did have some racist shit back in the day
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smh @ hogan "brown clown"

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jono;5812758 said:
Black kids are...let's not take this word literally but conditioned to accept white superheroism. All the "cool" heroes are white anyway...haven't you noticed? Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Hulk Hogan etc. There never has been a huge undertaking to make a black equivalent of either of them.

Your argument that kids are color-blind has been proven wrong decades ago. The study with the Black girls with white dolls proved that. Blacks are just used to white heroes and role models, that's just how it is.

Goddamn(!!!) you think of your own people that way? SMH that's some self ether. Are you doing anything to fix that?

On topic... I think the whole conditioning point of view is particular to each individual. It depends on how you were brought up, your surroundings etc. I'm pretty sure if you asked my niece those questions, she would say, "the black girl looks the prettiest because that one looks like me" or something along those lines.

So in sum, I disagree that white kids can't live through black "superheroes." I think when it comes right down to it, the persona and the skill is what matters.

Even as an adult (with knowledge of how racist this world is), I connect with the personality or persona more so than the skin color. Race doesn't really come into play with entertainment unless it's an equal playing field.

I mean it's not like white kids aren't already experiencing it with Jordan, Lebron, Tiger Woods, Anderson Silva .... Basically, all Vince needs to do is give the black wrestler the same chance, and he'll find out that the white crowd will ride with it.

 
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Lets be sensible here. It's not about the "kids". At the end of the day its about the adults. The older generation still has to be pleased and with the percentage of white viewers far outweighing that of black ones, Vince has to cater to his main audience. The kids who might be growing up today and don't see things as white/black are not the ones putting money into WWE. They don't pay for event tickets or PPV themselves, the parents do. But at least things are changing. It's much better now than 15 years ago.
 
I didn't know who Big E Langston was til I watched it on youtube. I change my vote, nigga is a beast he needs to go to TNA so that he can become champ off talent and not race.
 
TheBossman;5812900 said:
piper one of my favorites but he did have some racist shit back in the day

man, that video of reverend slick is hard to watch....they had dude sitting there with a whole bucket of KFC for himself.

 
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Anti_matter;5813930 said:
TheBossman;5812900 said:
piper one of my favorites but he did have some racist shit back in the day

man, that video of reverend slick is hard to watch....they had dude sitting there with a whole bucket of KFC for himself.

lol, i know right?! he was slobbing that shit down! lol

but of all those video, the greg valentine video was by far the most racist.
 
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Anti_matter;5812559 said:
Vince may or may not not be racist, but wrestling has always been about exaggerating stereotypes of different groups.

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All the characters you posted came from Vince. He's only pushing Del Rio and they signed Sin Cara for the Hispanic market since it's growing and lucrative. If not, they'd be lawnmowers like Juvi, Psychosis and Super Crazy were. Wrestling has been racist before but fuck, Vince won't let that shit go. Same token though, TNA dropped the ball with Monty Brown like a muthafucka although they pushed the shit out of Ron Killings. To be fair though, Monty Brown was ass besides the Pounce and that nigga's promos were on Ultimate Warrior level.

Back to my nigga Kofi, they need to turn him heel and let him do the MVP gimmick for real, minus the power ranger outfit. Hook up with Paul Heyman to make sure of his heelness, as his agent and claim the WWE doesn't appreciate his skill and talent. All about the money and titles. Nothing else.
 
Trillip Brooks;5811770 said:
When it comes to Black wrestlers, Vince loves to either team them up together or put them against each other

I'm going to need to who is in your sig bruh.
 
RawAce;5819009 said:
TheBossman;5812900 said:
piper one of my favorites but he did have some racist shit back in the day

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Every time valentine said black , mean gene was lookin like mike Myers during Katrina

i know right? obviously he meant nigger when saying black. i think valentine has some undercover racism in his blood, while the others i think their just playing the heel, bad guy vs a black guy role.

 
I wonder what they going to do with kofi Kingston after he loses his United states championship at extreme rules.
 
Anti_matter;5813930 said:
TheBossman;5812900 said:
piper one of my favorites but he did have some racist shit back in the day

man, that video of reverend slick is hard to watch....they had dude sitting there with a whole bucket of KFC for himself.

True and I have that video saved on my fav list on youtube. Jive Soul Bro is my shit though.
 
KingGivBiz;5810414 said:
Someday soon there will be a black man with the size look ability and mic skills to be The Rock. I just know there is black talent out there. .

the rock is the exception he is/was head and shoulders above all talent back in the day when he got on...it was damn near impossible not to give him a run....black talent shouldnt have to be that over to get a chance to shine....hell white talent b4 and after rock has had chance upon chance and havent been nearly as entertaining
 
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Ahmed Johnson Gives Controversial Interview That Is Sure to Cause a Stir By Kris EazAy(Contributor) on May 21,

Next I recently had the opportunity to sit in on an interview on PerfectPlex Radio with the artist formerly known as Ahmed Johnson, Tony Norris, that was conducted by Mike Knoxxx, Chris “Spotface” McClain and Chad Rivera. To say that Norris let it all hang out would be the understatement of the century.

Norris, who rarely does interviews, spoke candidly on a plethora of topics, including his thoughts on Shawn Michaels, Vince McMahon, HHH, why he never became world champ and the alleged racism he encountered while he worked in WWE.

Norris contends that Vince McMahon is a racist “from the word go” and also states, “But I had no idea of what he was. You know, I always say The best trick the devil ever pulled off was hiding in plain sight. If you read the Bible, everything the devil ever did he didn't hide. He did it in plain sight. That's Vince McMahon.”While Norris appreciates the fact that he is the first black Intercontinental Champion, he says that he still dealt with racism and that someone keyed a racial slur into his car while he was champ and even put a toy monkey with a noose around its neck in his locker room.

Norris claims that Shawn Michaels forced him to stop doing his more athletic wrestling moves in favor of power moves. “Shawn Michaels called me to his office after a while and said, Ahmed, we need you to stop doing the high flying moves. Here you are doing these one half-gainer moonsaults, stuff that we can't even do but then when we get out there at 180 pounds it makes us look bad because you've already done it at 380 pounds... If you want to continue wrestling with the company you have to stop doing these things.”

He says that Shawn wanted him to do more bear hugs and slams and less high flying moves. He also says that when he was working in the WWE, Michaels had his own office at Titan Towers.

Norris recounts a story of how the late Ernie Ladd said to him, “You are about to enter the most racist organization you can get into.” Surprised at what Ladd told him, Norris states, “I was freaked out because I was expecting this dude to say 'ay, you've got a good opportunity here, they are gonna take care of you and I love Vince'.”

Norris wasn't all negative as he stated that Razor Ramon (Scott Hall) offered him a great deal of feedback during his matches and helped him out more than any other guy on the roster while he was with WWE. When asked about The Rock, Norris states that, “The Rock is the best in history on the mic. You will never find another guy like him on the mic.”

However, in perhaps, the most jaw-dropping portion of the interview, Norris recounts a time backstage where The Rock tells members of D-Generation X that his mother had an affair with a white guy and conceived him. Norris states that, “He (The Rock) was denying his black heritage all the way around.” He says The Rock maintained that he was kidding with those guys; however, Norris believes that the Rock was being serious in denying his black heritage.

In addition to all of this, Norris gives his thoughts on John Cena, CM Punk, Chris Jericho, the late Hawk of the Road Warriors, his brief run in World Championship Wrestling and more. Tony Norris gives a new meaning to “not giving a damn!” This is, without a doubt, the most candid interview we have ever conducted on the BDSIR network. The interview can be found here and starts around the 35:00 mark.

 
I think this post is fuckin dumb cuz ya'll don't watch wrestling enough to make a statement. Booker T is black as hell, and HE was the heavyweight champ in the WWE AND just recently got inducted into the WWE hall of fame. Mark Henry WAS the heavyweight champ less than a year ago. So............what are ya'll talkin about? And some of these wrestlers that you mention are NOT ready to be at the top. Ain't put in ENOUGH WORK or just don't have the look or gimmick to be a successful champ. Elijah Burke had NO GIMMICK AT ALL when he was in the wwe. just a boring ass mediocre wrestler. As a BLACK FAN of WWE, I would not have been satisfied watching him in main events on Raw or Smackdown. Everybody aint a damn racist all time time. smh The Rock had the look, the skill, the charisma, and was a beast on the mic. Ain't NO black wrestlers have come around in a LONG TIME possessing the total package.
 

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