Is not responding to disses cowardly

[tangdawu]

Brocktonpatriot has got it correct. Boxing is a analogy for this. Jay-Z is PFP King of the rap game right now. No one can touch him. He's so high up that he doesn't have to respond to people. Your telling me that Jay-Z took on Nas, but is scared to take on The Game. Let's be serious now. Jay is in a position that he can't be touched. Maybe if the Game catches up to him then there will be a legitimate reason to respond. It's like Manny Pacquiao taking on Zab Judah. Yeah Judah is good but not good enough to take him on. Jay-Z is King right now. As far as I'm concerned the King shouldn't have to get off his throne and go after the enemy. The enemy has to reach his throne and then there will be a battle. So the Game reach Jay first.

 

[jonoaries]

Cmon man its just a rap battle..smh @ niggas tryna pull rank in a rap battle. You wont die if you lose! If a dude diss you take his ass out. Its the nature of the game. Really speaking frankly you dont have to respond in order for dude to get hot off dissing you (50 cent anyone?) Ja acted like dude didnt exist until he got a million dollar deal (in which case Ja was still far ahead in terms of making cash) but 50 clowned him and then had other mofos clownin him by the time he responded it was too late nobody cared.

I believe if you really king you stamp niggas out quick then move on. Jay used to do it all the time now he too good? I wouldnt call it cowardly bcuz I know he will fuck a dude like Game career up but its just a lame tactic to ignore a dude...im not sayin be obsessed with him (like Game is with 50 or like 50 was with Ja) but at least get back at him.

 

[tri3w]

what do you fellas expect from a music that de-evolved from a artform with actual content to just a parade of coons on every station? Slowly and surely, hip hop has been embracing the gay culture. Look at the fashion. Rainbow colored shoes, rainbow colored clothes, skinny jeans. You fellas expect these new age homos to respond to beef? Lol. The art of beef is dead.

lmfao........

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

What do you fellas expect from a music that de-evolved from a artform with actual content to just a parade of coons on every station? Slowly and surely, hip hop has been embracing the gay culture. look at the fashion. rainbow colored shoes, rainbow colored clothes, skinny jeans. you fellas expect these new age homos to respond to beef? lol. the art of beef is dead.

Cmon man its just a rap battle..smh @ niggas tryna pull rank in a rap battle. You wont die if you lose! If a dude diss you take his ass out. Its the nature of the game. Really speaking frankly you dont have to respond in order for dude to get hot off dissing you (50 cent anyone?) Ja acted like dude didnt exist until he got a million dollar deal (in which case Ja was still far ahead in terms of making cash) but 50 clowned him and then had other mofos clownin him by the time he responded it was too late nobody cared.

I believe if you really king you stamp niggas out quick then move on. Jay used to do it all the time now he too good? I wouldnt call it cowardly bcuz I know he will fuck a dude like Game career up but its just a lame tactic to ignore a dude...im not sayin be obsessed with him (like Game is with 50 or like 50 was with Ja) but at least get back at him.

See part of the problem is Kats think subliminals is enough, I mean if you dissing putting a subliminal in half a bar or a few bars in a song about some other shit is just trying to save face. A verse and clear shots are how you finish shit Look at BDP and Juice Crew or Cool J & Moe Dee or shit even Jay and Nas all clear shots made and decisive wins established. The culutre is suffering as elemenets are being removed by those that should be protecting it as it made them. Jay and 50 as examples have taken beef to some corporate sneaky level of shit attacking behind the scenes, Black Balling Music Play, Shelving Releases, buying contracts? I guess we should be glad no one got Murked because they beat a man in verbal battle with those 2...

 

[jonoaries]

See part of the problem is Kats think subliminals is enough, I mean if you dissing putting a subliminal in half a bar or a few bars in a song about some other shit is just trying to save face. A verse and clear shots are how you finish shit Look at BDP and Juice Crew or Cool J & Moe Dee or shit even Jay and Nas all clear shots made and decisive wins established. The culutre is suffering as elemenets are being removed by those that should be protecting it as it made them. Jay and 50 as examples have taken beef to some corporate sneaky level of shit attacking behind the scenes, Black Balling Music Play, Shelving Releases, buying contracts? I guess we should be glad no one got Murked because they beat a man in verbal battle...

I completely agree..the corporate gangsta mentality is fucked up. If you cant out rap a dude you get his album pushed back in order to save face..smh thats some trife shit

 

[usmarin3]

Hiphop needs more quality music than beef imo, Jay-z and Nas beef would be less rememerable if they never followed it up with classic albums. Now how many of these rappers have the capability to make classic albums nowadays. Look at the classic beefs, they've typically been followed by great albums (The Chronic, Blueprint, Stillmatic, Amerikkkas Most Wanted, Efil4zaggin,etc).

 

[Moshigh30]

Cmon man its just a rap battle..smh @ niggas tryna pull rank in a rap battle. You wont die if you lose! If a dude diss you take his ass out. Its the nature of the game. Really speaking frankly you dont have to respond in order for dude to get hot off dissing you (50 cent anyone?) Ja acted like dude didnt exist until he got a million dollar deal (in which case Ja was still far ahead in terms of making cash) but 50 clowned him and then had other mofos clownin him by the time he responded it was too late nobody cared.

I believe if you really king you stamp niggas out quick then move on. Jay used to do it all the time now he too good? I wouldnt call it cowardly bcuz I know he will fuck a dude like Game career up but its just a lame tactic to ignore a dude...im not sayin be obsessed with him (like Game is with 50 or like 50 was with Ja) but at least get back at him.

I understand If many of you just want to see the big man (Jay-z) battle fine, however think about why would Jay-z take on Game? Just because he called him out for no reason, Game is a disgrace to the Black community. He's over there in Europe saying to all white crowds "Old ass Nigga" what a damn fool. I like Game's ryhmes sometime, but that behaviour was some punk ass treason to the black community ish...Brotha's need to look deeper than rap.

Bean's let's be real why would Jay-Z battle him right now, Bean's is tryn to get back in the game. I dont care if people like Jay-z or not he is a big deal top of the game. Ok, if Jay-z damages Bean's what does it do for him? If Bean's wins get's a little shine, but would not help his career.

I believe to many people on this site are either under 18yrs old or just straight out of touch and immature. Grow the flip up...RED BLACK AND GREEN ALL DAY!!

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

I understand If many of you just want to see the big man (Jay-z) battle fine, however think about why would Jay-z take on Game? Just because he called him out for no reason, Game is a disgrace to the Black community. He's over there in Europe saying to all white crowds "Old ass Nigga" what a damn fool. I like Game's ryhmes sometime, but that behaviour was some punk ass treason to the black community ish...Brotha's need to look deeper than rap.

Bean's let's be real why would Jay-Z battle him right now, Bean's is tryn to get back in the game. I dont care if people like Jay-z or not he is a big deal top of the game. Ok, if Jay-z damages Bean's what does it do for him? If Bean's wins get's a little shine, but would not help his career.
I believe to many people on this site are either under 18yrs old or just straight out of touch and immature. Grow the flip up...RED BLACK AND GREEN ALL DAY!!

Damn you sound like a non hip hop sucker, that is projecting their own lack of touch with true HipHop culture and with this being your 1st post it is obvious your cosigning yourself as an alias...

 

[jonlakadeadmic]

It's funny how Jay stans feel he shouldn't respond to Game because Game just wants "publicity" and that Jay is too superior for Game. But when Jay was dissing Nas back on 01 for no reason, it was ok.

dog get your fuckin facts straight....jay dissed nas for no reason?? haha lets break it down...

nas gave memphis bleek a subliminal diss on bleeks first CD (for reasons unknown to me)

bleek then openly dissed nas by saying his life was "written"

from there, obviously animosity between the crews was out in the open

after about 2 years there was still friction, as well as the circling question of who would be the king of new york

jay knew him and nas were the best and there was already prior conflict with him and mobb deep so he decided to attack

(it was also a good time to diss nas because he was fucking nas' wife, although im sure he didnt expect ether to be so hot)

 

[youngnick]

dog get your fuckin facts straight....jay dissed nas for no reason?? haha lets break it down...

nas gave memphis bleek a subliminal diss on bleeks first CD (for reasons unknown to me)
bleek then openly dissed nas by saying his life was "written"
from there, obviously animosity between the crews was out in the open
after about 2 years there was still friction, as well as the circling question of who would be the king of new york
jay knew him and nas were the best and there was already prior conflict with him and mobb deep so he decided to attack
(it was also a good time to diss nas because he was fucking nas' wife, although im sure he didnt expect ether to be so hot)

No, the friction started when Nas decided not to record the hook for Dead Presidents, which is very similar on how Jay declined doing a verse on Game's documentary. So the similarities are there, Jay is just a hypocrite.

 

[gouki]

Damn... "No ATL"..

Yeah, dudes a chump for never responding to people.

 

[kingscourt]

The problem is sometimes responding back to a person gves you credibility. You know Jay listening to you if they respond. That's what gave 50 so much credit with how to rob. The fact is cats were hearing this unknown diss them in a song and responded back

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

No, the friction started when Nas decided not to record the hook for Dead Presidents, which is very similar on how Jay declined doing a verse on Game's documentary. So the similarities are there, Jay is just a hypocrite.

Lets take it another step Why Is jay not going at 50 who also has taken shots or King of the Diss track LL who has made many coments swiping at Jay? Jigga is shook to lose another battle he Knows he cannot Buy out kats Like 50, LL, Game, Mos Def etc and he will lose face truth is truth..

 

[who dat]

This thread is hilarious..... I swear rap fans under 25 are dead clueless about the culture....you were still watching Nickelodeon when hip-hop actually mattered and had values. Your earliest memories of hip-hop are probably Nelly or Mase. In your eyes hip-hop is about beefing, jewelry, and violence....LMAO!! Cats over 25 knew rap before the fake beefs...when gangster rappers only populated 10% of the game....we had mostly character rappers instead udes like Slick Rick, PE, Kid n Play, Kwame, Special Ed, Lyte, De LA, Black Sheep, Cypress Hill, Dana Dane, King Sun, EPMD, Kane, Rakim, Leaders of the NEw, Onyx, Wu, Tribe, Gangstarr, Nice n Smooth, 3rd Base....it was about the music and vibing.....there were beefs but they were kept low and quiet...and not exploited, and they were not the main event either. The music was your merit....not your sales, jewels, house, car, gang affiliations, criminal record....and back then some of the most humble rappers were on the lowet street thugs like Dres from Blacksheep...straight up dope dealer...but he didnt portray that image.... Freddy Foxx...Showbiz from Showbiz and AG is one of the Bronx biggest dope dealers even today...but he never spoke about it once on record. These rappers today are fuckin fugazi, and the new generation of kids are being used and fooled. Until rap has more alternative characters outside of tough guys it will never get back to its former glory...there are just too many trappers, and goons....just too many losers for the artform to be take seriously. Niggas like The Game, Rick Ross, Lil Wayne....are just jokes in the large scope of hip-hop...pollutants stinking and clogging up the pipes.

 

[DarcSkies777]

It all depends:

1. If that person just so happens to diss you a month before their album comes out then fuck em

2. If they took the first shot at you and you just dont want it for whatever reason then dont get dragged into a fight you dont want to be in.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

This thread is hilarious..... I swear rap fans under 25 are dead clueless about the culture....you were still watching Nickelodeon when hip-hop actually mattered and had values. Your earliest memories of hip-hop are probably Nelly or Mase. In your eyes hip-hop is about beefing, jewelry, and violence....LMAO!! Cats over 25 knew rap before the fake beefs...when gangster rappers only populated 10% of the game....we had mostly character rappers instead udes like Slick Rick, PE, Kid n Play, Kwame, Special Ed, Lyte, De LA, Black Sheep, Cypress Hill, Dana Dane, King Sun, EPMD, Kane, Rakim, Leaders of the NEw, Onyx, Wu, Tribe, Gangstarr, Nice n Smooth, 3rd Base....it was about the music and vibing.....there were beefs but they were kept low and quiet...and not exploited, and they were not the main event either. The music was your merit....not your sales, jewels, house, car, gang affiliations, criminal record....and back then some of the most humble rappers were on the lowet street thugs like Dres from Blacksheep...straight up dope dealer...but he didnt portray that image.... Freddy Foxx...Showbiz from Showbiz and AG is one of the Bronx biggest dope dealers even today...but he never spoke about it once on record. These rappers today are fuckin fugazi, and the new generation of kids are being used and fooled. Until rap has more alternative characters outside of tough guys it will never get back to its former glory...there are just too many trappers, and goons....just too many losers for the artform to be take seriously. Niggas like The Game, Rick Ross, Lil Wayne....are just jokes in the large scope of hip-hop...pollutants stinking and clogging up the pipes.

your post reeks of fuckery and a alias cosigning himself. A good third of the rappers you named were on some gangster shit which further undercuts anypoint you were trying to make and beef has been a component since the beginning. I am way over 25 and remember the 80's clearly now STFU son and get over your identity crisis...

 

[youngnick]

Lets take it another step Why Is jay not going at 50 who also has taken shots or King of the Diss track LL who has made many coments swiping at Jay? Jigga is shook to lose another battle he Knows he cannot Buy out kats Like 50, LL, Game, Mos Def etc and he will lose face truth is truth..

Word. Does Jay really think he's above LL and Mos Def? Game is one thing, but them two niggas? Jay is def. scared.

 

[prodphetic]

Jay-z battled and went at any and every nigga who fucked with him for a long time when beef was actually geunine, nobody who has dissed him of late is doing anything more than trying to promote themselves by taking shots at the nigga who's had the most longevity. Its pointless when you ar the top of the game to make a diss record to every body who disses you, if its not makin you money why bother? For sport? Fuck that.

I CO-SIGN THIS POWERFUL STATEMENT.



cats acting like Jigga wasn't taking on everyone back in the day, throwing shots at Nas, bodied Fiddy, battled LL in person..........

now all of a sudden he has to respond to the Game AKA the Name-Dropper-Rapper who has no credibility whatsoever, or CAM (I'm a CAM fan) who decided to go the whole " computers, 'Putin" route with a bunch of retards, or Beans, the disgruntled employee, people have the nerve to say he's actually that good, or Jimmy WHOSE NOT EVEN A REAL MC, he's Cam's old weed carrier............ how about some REAL competition ..... ?????

 

[prodphetic]

Word. Does Jay really think he's above LL and Mos Def? Game is one thing, but them two niggas? Jay is def. scared.

ok, lets remember he battled LL in person and won, and as of late LL is washed up and thats his own doing........... Mos Def would be a serious hip-hop battle.

but unfortunately until that materializes i don't see what the problem is.

 

[gee757]

Lets take it another step Why Is jay not going at 50 who also has taken shots or King of the Diss track LL who has made many coments swiping at Jay? Jigga is shook to lose another battle he Knows he cannot Buy out kats Like 50, LL, Game, Mos Def etc and he will lose face truth is truth..

soloman y would j go @ cuuuurly again when he kill'd that duuunkey wit 1 line?? IM ALL ABOUT A DOLLAR WTF IS 50CENT?? cuuuurly career is ova he needz beef 2 sell & j knowz this thatz y he didnt entertain that muuunkey....& da same thang wit gayme this clown is a bipolar bitch 1 minute he is dissin j & then this x change of heart contestant has a change of heart & sayz sorry gayme is just tryna sell recordz wit lame wwe rap beef...