Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.
 
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie
 
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout
 
joeyfkncrakk;c-9829536 said:
its....JOHN B;c-9829527 said:
Artest was 30 in the prime of his career, Bynum was the 2nd best center in the league, who cares what Odom scoring average was that's casual fan bullshit he was 6'10 pf who could run an offense like a pg, was a good post up player, great rebounder, could shoot and defend he was an all purpose player, Kobe had more depth and more impactful players on both sides of the ball

Kobe had good role players, Lebron had legit all stars with great role guys... Korver, Shumpert, JR, Channing Frye, both D Williams, RJ that's quality depth stop making excuses because if Kobe had that same core u would be saying he had way too much help again foh and stop buggin me John B

agendas
 
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

Can even count kobes first 2 to the 3seasons?? He's started started a combined 7 games his first 2 seasons. So that's 6 years. Let me ask you this, the 09 cavs vs the 05 lakers, who had better team? All I'm saying is comparing when both bron and Kobe had "no help" bron always a better roster. That's all. I agree that bron had no help for a longer period of time.
 
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

Yes they are.

Glen Rice and Horace I'll give you... Ron was kinda washed but he came up big defensively and hit some clutch shots. I love that nigga for that nh

As for the rest of these niggas man GTFOH

Rodman never played a full season in LA and was already washed. Mitch was getting like 10 minutes and 4 ppg for the season and played in exactly 2 playoff games for us. Karl and Gary had the worst seasons of their careers in LA, they did not mesh well in the triangle. And Malone was fucking DONE half way through the season his knees were shot, but he soldiered through so props for that.

Lmfao @ Nash and Dwight. Exactly how many games did Nash actually play? Look that up, I'll wait.

I honestly don't know what to make of Dwight's time here tbh. I'm not sure if coming here ruined him or exposed him. But he wasn't "Dwight" anymore.
 
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joeyfkncrakk;c-9831418 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout

nigga they were vets with high bball iq who filled their role. u acting like a whole ho right now with the name calling over different opinions slow ur role and agree to disagree...
 
Inglewood_B;c-9831787 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

Yes they are.

Glen Rice and Horace I'll give you... Ron was kinda washed but he came up big defensively and hit some clutch shots. I love that nigga for that nh

As for the rest of these niggas man GTFOH

Rodman never played a full season in LA and was already washed. Mitch was getting like 10 minutes and 4 ppg for the season and played in exactly 2 playoff games for us. Karl and Gary had the worst seasons of their careers in LA, they did not mesh well in the triangle. And Malone was fucking DONE half way through the season his knees were shot, but he soldiered through so props for that.

Lmfao @ Nash and Dwight. Exactly how many games did Nash actually play? Look that up, I'll wait.

I honestly don't know what to make of Dwight's time here tbh. I'm not sure if coming here ruined him or exposed him. But he wasn't "Dwight" anymore.

its easy to say all that after the fact... Yall signed Nash and Dwight as big additions... Kobes selfishness and fans not appreciating Dwight playing hurt also happened and yall went to the playoffs with Dwight. Nashwas injuries. Malone Payton and that team went to the finals so lets not flex like they was they old ass bums who aint contribute. Now compare that to what Bron had before going to Mia which is the point. Kobe can have the most dominant big man ever cluthc veteran androle players all that time whileBron had noneof that for his first 7years. Kobe fans gotta hush with all that Bron had morehelp talk cuz its not true
 
KamPushMe;c-9831697 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

Can even count kobes first 2 to the 3seasons?? He's started started a combined 7 games his first 2 seasons. So that's 6 years. Let me ask you this, the 09 cavs vs the 05 lakers, who had better team? All I'm saying is comparing when both bron and Kobe had "no help" bron always a better roster. That's all. I agree that bron had no help for a longer period of time.

exactly

 
aneed123;c-9832245 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9831418 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout

nigga they were vets with high bball iq who filled their role. u acting like a whole ho right now with the name calling over different opinions slow ur role and agree to disagree...

To be completely fair, going by your bolded statement, we have to acknowledge that Bron had Shaq and couldn't/didn't do shit with him. Now personally, I don't hold that against Lebron, but if Kobe's washed teammates count, Bron's gotta count too, especially one the size and caliber of O'Neal.

No issue with Kobe not being in someone's top 5 btw.

 
aneed123;c-9832248 said:
Inglewood_B;c-9831787 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

Yes they are.

Glen Rice and Horace I'll give you... Ron was kinda washed but he came up big defensively and hit some clutch shots. I love that nigga for that nh

As for the rest of these niggas man GTFOH

Rodman never played a full season in LA and was already washed. Mitch was getting like 10 minutes and 4 ppg for the season and played in exactly 2 playoff games for us. Karl and Gary had the worst seasons of their careers in LA, they did not mesh well in the triangle. And Malone was fucking DONE half way through the season his knees were shot, but he soldiered through so props for that.

Lmfao @ Nash and Dwight. Exactly how many games did Nash actually play? Look that up, I'll wait.

I honestly don't know what to make of Dwight's time here tbh. I'm not sure if coming here ruined him or exposed him. But he wasn't "Dwight" anymore.

its easy to say all that after the fact... Yall signed Nash and Dwight as big additions... Kobes selfishness and fans not appreciating Dwight playing hurt also happened and yall went to the playoffs with Dwight. Nashwas injuries. Malone Payton and that team went to the finals so lets not flex like they was they old ass bums who aint contribute. Now compare that to what Bron had before going to Mia which is the point. Kobe can have the most dominant big man ever cluthc veteran androle players all that time whileBron had noneof that for his first 7years. Kobe fans gotta hush with all that Bron had morehelp talk cuz its not true

It might be after the fact but it's still fact. Those guys ain't contribute like you you trying to imply. You just dropping names without consideration to how they actually played, and IF (for some) they even played at all.

Karl Malone was 40 and Gary was 35, they both had statistically their worst seasons in LA. Karl Malone only played like 40 games. We got to the finals because Shaq and Kobe.

I could drop names for LeBron and the "help" that he had, too. Shaq, Larry Hughes, Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer, Antawn Jamison were all stars. And I can say statistically they were better help for LeBron than those guys were for Kobe. Then you wanna talk about solid veteran role players... how about Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Delonte West, Ben Wallace, Wally Szerbiak, Drew Gooden...

But continue with your agenda posting. You always hollerin about what Kobe fans doing and saying but you ain't objective on this either.

White_Owl_Willie;c-9832395 said:
aneed123;c-9832245 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9831418 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout

nigga they were vets with high bball iq who filled their role. u acting like a whole ho right now with the name calling over different opinions slow ur role and agree to disagree...

To be completely fair, going by your bolded statement, we have to acknowledge that Bron had Shaq and couldn't/didn't do shit with him. Now personally, I don't hold that against Lebron, but if Kobe's washed teammates count, Bron's gotta count too, especially one the size and caliber of O'Neal.

No issue with Kobe not being in someone's top 5 btw.

Exactly. Niggas like to pick and choose when it come to Kobe, because they don't like him for personal reasons. Which I don't care if they do or not... but be consistent.
 
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Inglewood_B;c-9832514 said:
aneed123;c-9832248 said:
Inglewood_B;c-9831787 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

Yes they are.

Glen Rice and Horace I'll give you... Ron was kinda washed but he came up big defensively and hit some clutch shots. I love that nigga for that nh

As for the rest of these niggas man GTFOH

Rodman never played a full season in LA and was already washed. Mitch was getting like 10 minutes and 4 ppg for the season and played in exactly 2 playoff games for us. Karl and Gary had the worst seasons of their careers in LA, they did not mesh well in the triangle. And Malone was fucking DONE half way through the season his knees were shot, but he soldiered through so props for that.

Lmfao @ Nash and Dwight. Exactly how many games did Nash actually play? Look that up, I'll wait.

I honestly don't know what to make of Dwight's time here tbh. I'm not sure if coming here ruined him or exposed him. But he wasn't "Dwight" anymore.

its easy to say all that after the fact... Yall signed Nash and Dwight as big additions... Kobes selfishness and fans not appreciating Dwight playing hurt also happened and yall went to the playoffs with Dwight. Nashwas injuries. Malone Payton and that team went to the finals so lets not flex like they was they old ass bums who aint contribute. Now compare that to what Bron had before going to Mia which is the point. Kobe can have the most dominant big man ever cluthc veteran androle players all that time whileBron had noneof that for his first 7years. Kobe fans gotta hush with all that Bron had morehelp talk cuz its not true

It might be after the fact but it's still fact. Those guys ain't contribute like you you trying to imply. You just dropping names without consideration to how they actually played, and IF (for some) they even played at all.

Karl Malone was 40 and Gary was 35, they both had statistically their worst seasons in LA. Karl Malone only played like 40 games. We got to the finals because Shaq and Kobe.

I could drop names for LeBron and the "help" that he had, too. Shaq, Larry Hughes, Mo Williams and Carlos Boozer, Antawn Jamison were all stars. And I can say statistically they were better help for LeBron than those guys were for Kobe. Then you wanna talk about solid veteran role players... how about Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Delonte West, Ben Wallace, Wally Szerbiak, Drew Gooden...

But continue with your agenda posting. You always hollerin about what Kobe fans doing and saying but you ain't objective on this either.

White_Owl_Willie;c-9832395 said:
aneed123;c-9832245 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9831418 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout

nigga they were vets with high bball iq who filled their role. u acting like a whole ho right now with the name calling over different opinions slow ur role and agree to disagree...

To be completely fair, going by your bolded statement, we have to acknowledge that Bron had Shaq and couldn't/didn't do shit with him. Now personally, I don't hold that against Lebron, but if Kobe's washed teammates count, Bron's gotta count too, especially one the size and caliber of O'Neal.

No issue with Kobe not being in someone's top 5 btw.

Exactly. Niggas like to pick and choose when it come to Kobe, because they don't like him for personal reasons. Which I don't care if they do or not... but be consistent.

You're better than this
 
Shizlansky;c-9832752 said:
Bron had Shaq when Shaq was TRASH as fuck.

If this ain't the dumbest shit said so far in this thread

Yes that's the point. Just like when Kobe had Rodman, Mitch Richmond, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Steve Nash and Dwight Howard

This what I'm talkin about when I say niggas pick and choose with Kobe. If you apply that logic one way, you gotta apply it to the other
 
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Nah Dwight shouldn't be mentioned, Kobe fucked that up, he didn't want it to work from the beginning but y'all can say "Kobe was an alpha and Dwight is soft" like that should mean anything, give Bron a prime Dwight see what happens
 
Dwight didn't play up to his standard, even he would tell you that. I don't do the gay ass "Kobe is Alpha" narrative. That don't apply to me.

Only thing I've ever said was Kobe wasn't carried. I don't shit on Shaq either. You can go through my post history I never disrespect Diesel. Even now when niggas go in sayin how he wack on TNT I keep my mouth shut on it.

Shaq good in LA forever. I remember one Christmas he came down to Nickerson Gardens in the heart of Watts givin out toys and shit. It was a wall where they spray painted his name on it in in Laker colors and it was up for years no gang ever struck up over it the whole time it was there.
 
aneed123;c-9832245 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9831418 said:
aneed123;c-9831179 said:
KamPushMe;c-9830531 said:
aneed123;c-9830262 said:
Bron ain't get help til 11.. Kobe had a prime shaq folk forget Mitch Richmond Glen rice Horace grant rodman all went to LA as role players. Karl Malone Gary Peyton... Dwight Howard Nash Odom artest I can go on and on and talk got the nerve to say Kobe had less help? Agendas are hilarious

I said excluding the shaq era nigga. And the fact you brought up Nash means to me you don't know what the fuck you're taking about straight up.

I brought him up to show who he had. Nash got hurt. I should just said Ron Harper instead .... defender with size great for the triangle. U wanna exclude the shaq era 96-04. That's 8 years with the most dominant big man ever and all that help and coaching. Kobe had about a 4 year span with no help. Bron his first 7 years was the team. I stand by my post homie

U sound dumb as hell Ron Harper, Mitch Richmond, Nash, Artest, Gary Payton, Malone all were past the best years and out of their prime stop smoking bro.. I'm not even gonna proceed any further with u dumbfuq, know what u talking bout

nigga they were vets with high bball iq who filled their role. u acting like a whole ho right now with the name calling over different opinions slow ur role and agree to disagree...

If y'all counting those...... What about Larry Hughes?
 
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If Lebron is so damn great why he always gotta skip town to win? Yet Kobe played 20 years with 1 Franchise and played under all franchise circumstances and never ran for instant glory to pad numbers... Lebron isn't nowhere close to as headstrong n/h to Kobe
 

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