Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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prime_time_willy;9293419 said:
MJ

Magic

Kareem

Wilt

Russell

Bill Russell over lebron kobe olajuwon shaq Bird etc...??? he shot 44% from the floor on a career 14pts a game...I get it he has 11 rings but his team was stacked with 60% of the best talent the nba had in those days that would be like Deandre Jordan going to the GSW and winning 6 rings and all a sudden having people believe he is top 5 center

Bill was a great leader and defender and did alot on the social side of things and people hated wilt so bill was like the champ most people loved but he aint no top 10 player he is like a dennis rodman on steroids but is not a threat on offense
 
What is keeping Kobe out of the top 5 tho... I haven't gotten the answer yet, the audacity of saying Hakeem Olajuwon over Kobe is enough for me to stop coming in my own thread... Reach levels are extremely high, had MJ wanted to play hoops instead of taking his first hiatus Hakeem wouldn't have any rings, u telling me Hakeem Olajuwon would have 2 rings if MJ was playing those 2 years foh...

Kobe played every top level talent in 3 different generations from MJ to Steph.. Took the challenge in the all star game every time against MJ and got his respect... I never heard MJ do that for anybody but Kobe because he really had the dna of a champion... Kobe dropped 50 points 4-nites in a row, how many 60 point games, how many clutch situations, lead the team on his back for 20 years gaining every accolade, the list goes accomplishment wise... How did Hakeem, Bird, or others get more nods while having less accolades?
 
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_Goldie_;9284759 said:
Niggas puttin Lebron over Kobe? A nigga who lost 4 NBA finals?

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Where lebron rank then
 
goodlookinout;9292405 said:
I feel like these list need to be top 5 I was born and ACTUALLY watched play cause none of us saw Prime Wilt, Prime Big O, even Prime Dr. J. Ijs

Nah niggas. It's 2016...

YouTube, advanced statistics, detailed records. You don't have to see something with your own eyes to make an informed decision on it.

For example, we just gonna dismiss MJ cuz niggas didn't see him personally ... so he no longer exists?

Nah I can't get down with that
 
joeyfkncrakk;9294907 said:
What is keeping Kobe out of the top 5 tho... I haven't gotten the answer yet, the audacity of saying Hakeem Olajuwon over Kobe is enough for me to stop coming in my own thread... Reach levels are extremely high, had MJ wanted to play hoops instead of taking his first hiatus Hakeem wouldn't have any rings, u telling me Hakeem Olajuwon would have 2 rings if MJ was playing those 2 years foh...

Kobe played every top level talent in 3 different generations from MJ to Steph.. Took the challenge in the all star game every time against MJ and got his respect... I never heard MJ do that for anybody but Kobe because he really had the dna of a champion... Kobe dropped 50 points 4-nites in a row, how many 60 point games, how many clutch situations, lead the team on his back for 20 years gaining every accolade, the list goes accomplishment wise... How did Hakeem, Bird, or others get more nods while having less accolades?

That's MJ's fault tho......and that nigga lost to Orlando, who lost to Hakeem. I always said if he would've played with his pops death fueling him, we would've seen Super Saiyan 5 Jordan, but the nigga wanna hit Homers & shit.......he did the dumb shit.

And so what Kobe ain't in everyone's top 5.....he damn there in everybody top 10.

That's like me saying Bill Russell & Wilt should be in everyone's top 5....

And You got Magic over Kobe......if you ask me Kobe>>>>>>Magic......but that's ur shit b.

 
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goodlookinout;9292405 said:
I feel like these list need to be top 5 I was born and ACTUALLY watched play cause none of us saw Prime Wilt, Prime Big O, even Prime Dr. J. Ijs

I used to be on that too, then I realized that my parents fucking mad late don't mean these niggas wasn't playing ball fam
 
Kobe my nigga but he aint top 5.

Everybody whose ahead of him has a better resume. Despite Kobe being probably the most skilled player ever and a great scorer he don't have all the accolades to be top 5. Top 10 for sure without a doubt!

35,5 and 5 should've gotten him that MVP idc what anybody says. The shit he did in that season was AMAZING. it aint his fault he aint win.

You put Nash on that team they ain't winning shit either. He willed them to the 7th seed.
 
Ether44mag;9294340 said:
prime_time_willy;9293419 said:
MJ

Magic

Kareem

Wilt

Russell

Bill Russell over lebron kobe olajuwon shaq Bird etc...??? he shot 44% from the floor on a career 14pts a game...I get it he has 11 rings but his team was stacked with 60% of the best talent the nba had in those days that would be like Deandre Jordan going to the GSW and winning 6 rings and all a sudden having people believe he is top 5 center

Bill was a great leader and defender and did alot on the social side of things and people hated wilt so bill was like the champ most people loved but he aint no top 10 player he is like a dennis rodman on steroids but is not a threat on offense

Did you just compare Deandre Jordan to Bill Russell?? Bill Russell averaged 15pts a game and his rebounds were 22.5 a game. The highest Deandre ever averaged in his career in pts was this past season at 12.7 and rebounds it was 15 two seasons ago. Bill could score when asked upon while Deandre is just lobs and dunks. From 1960-1963 Russell was averaging 20 pts a game in the playoffs when he was at his peak...yea not a threat on offense right? That was a horrible horrible analogy using Deandre Jordan smh.

Now the reason I went with Russell was because of his overall impact on that team including his impeccable resume. We can flip it, chop it, and slice it anyway we want to but the FACTS are the Celtics weren't a championship team before he arrived and the following season when he retired they were in the LOTTERY....that's called IMPACT. They were extreme chokers and had a losing playoff record of 10-17. When Russell came? He was the locomotive to that dynasty and made a lot of those guys jobs easier, which was why he was mvp 5x's on a 11x championship team. Not to mention he won rings as a player and a coach....again....IMPACT.

When creating a top list in anything there will always be a player that everybody disagree on, but the fact that you said a guy that averaged 15pts a game on offense is not a threat, then used Deandre Jordan and Dennis Rodman as your primary examples to knock Bill Russell with two guys who were more ineffective on offense? C'mon bro do better smh.
 
joeyfkncrakk;9294907 said:
What is keeping Kobe out of the top 5 tho... I haven't gotten the answer yet, the audacity of saying Hakeem Olajuwon over Kobe is enough for me to stop coming in my own thread... Reach levels are extremely high, had MJ wanted to play hoops instead of taking his first hiatus Hakeem wouldn't have any rings, u telling me Hakeem Olajuwon would have 2 rings if MJ was playing those 2 years foh...

We can speculate but we'll never know. The rockets were a nightmare match up for the bulls. Hakeem was literally fouling all of their big men out because they couldn't deal with him. The bulls had a losing record against the Rockets. Even Jordan said he was relieved the Rockets had a hard time coming out of the west before he retired the first time because Hakeem was a fucking problem for them boys.

 
Are we comparing Hakeem to Jordan...

Or are we comparing Hakeem to Kobe?

Two very different arguments.

How many rings would Kobe have, without Shaq or another superstar, if he played against Jordan in his prime?

I'll wait ...

Not to mention, that you're argument against Hakeem is laughable. Because of ALL teams Jordan faced in the 90s the Rockets were the one team that kept MJ up at night.

Can you guess why...

 
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Tsotsi Cape Town;9283046 said:
Michael Jordan

Oscar Robertson

Wilt

Magic

Lebron

Nope Kobe ain't there

Neither is Lebron.

MJ

Magic

Kareem

Bird

Russell or Wilt

 
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Kobe and LeBron are both top 5. No discussion. Those old niggas wasn't on they shit like that. Dominating 16 team leagues filled with white boys who can't dribble with their left hand, gets you no points.

The only footage of a nigga playing being youtube highlight reels, does not give the viewer a fair and real evaluation of the nigga's game. It's just more media fuck shit molding the minds of the casual fan.
 
prime_time_willy;9295935 said:
Ether44mag;9294340 said:
prime_time_willy;9293419 said:
MJ

Magic

Kareem

Wilt

Russell

Bill Russell over lebron kobe olajuwon shaq Bird etc...??? he shot 44% from the floor on a career 14pts a game...I get it he has 11 rings but his team was stacked with 60% of the best talent the nba had in those days that would be like Deandre Jordan going to the GSW and winning 6 rings and all a sudden having people believe he is top 5 center

Bill was a great leader and defender and did alot on the social side of things and people hated wilt so bill was like the champ most people loved but he aint no top 10 player he is like a dennis rodman on steroids but is not a threat on offense

Did you just compare Deandre Jordan to Bill Russell?? Bill Russell averaged 15pts a game and his rebounds were 22.5 a game. The highest Deandre ever averaged in his career in pts was this past season at 12.7 and rebounds it was 15 two seasons ago. Bill could score when asked upon while Deandre is just lobs and dunks. From 1960-1963 Russell was averaging 20 pts a game in the playoffs when he was at his peak...yea not a threat on offense right? That was a horrible horrible analogy using Deandre Jordan smh.

Now the reason I went with Russell was because of his overall impact on that team including his impeccable resume. We can flip it, chop it, and slice it anyway we want to but the FACTS are the Celtics weren't a championship team before he arrived and the following season when he retired they were in the LOTTERY....that's called IMPACT. They were extreme chokers and had a losing playoff record of 10-17. When Russell came? He was the locomotive to that dynasty and made a lot of those guys jobs easier, which was why he was mvp 5x's on a 11x championship team. Not to mention he won rings as a player and a coach....again....IMPACT.

When creating a top list in anything there will always be a player that everybody disagree on, but the fact that you said a guy that averaged 15pts a game on offense is not a threat, then used Deandre Jordan and Dennis Rodman as your primary examples to knock Bill Russell with two guys who were more ineffective on offense? C'mon bro do better smh.

ok maybe I exagerated comparing him to Deandre but I cant put a player who shot 44% as a center while scoring 15pts ,over guys like wilt ,lebron, hakeem etc...not sayin he was not a great player but not better than thoses guys no way ,his only competition was Wilt and he had a much better team ,hakeem had to go against the best collection of centers in Nba history russell only had Wilt and was mostly a threat on defense and was average as fuck on offense

that would be like saying Rodman is better than patrick ewing because he was a beast on rebonds and defense and won 5 rings to Ewing's 0
 
U said guys above Kobe have better resumes?!? I only see 3 guys with comparable resumes to Kobe and that's MJ, Kareem, Magic... Every1 after that has holes in their arguments to justify against Kobe...

If y'all just don't like Kobe I understand but to say dudes have a better resume than Kobe is just off base..
 
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