Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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joeyfkncrakk;c-9788495 said:
Funny how the greats and legends regard Kobe top 5 yet peons on IC reach for every excuse to hate on the Bean

Kobe is the most hated athlete in the black America
 
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I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.
 
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Kobe >>>Hakeem, Bird, Shaq, & Duncan tho imho
 
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg
 
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

5x Champion

2x MVP

3x FMVP

Equal rings but he 1 upped him with an additional

MVP and FMVP

He's avg at least 20ppg 9 times.

In his prime he was avg

24pts 12reb 3.5asts and 2.5blks and is widely considered, hands down, the best PF of all time

 
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Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh
 
joeyfkncrakk;c-9791932 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh

This the shit im talking about ....

Peace_79;c-9773442 said:
How many Rings, MVPs, 1st Teams, you think Kobe would have if he played the prime of his career ...

W/o Shaq ... against MJ in his prime?

 
Peace_79;c-9792090 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9791932 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh

This the shit im talking about ....

Peace_79;c-9773442 said:
How many Rings, MVPs, 1st Teams, you think Kobe would have if he played the prime of his career ...

W/o Shaq ... against MJ in his prime?

How many rings would Hakeem have if Jordan didn't retire?

How many rings would Lebron have if he wasn't paired with DWade/Bosh and now Kyrie & Love?

How many rings would Shaq have without Kobe?

How many rings would Bird have without McHale and the crew?

How many rings would Duncan have if Pop wasn't his coach?

See, I can do that shyt too...u can't take Kobe's career from him he earned every accolade he ever got, outcareer all ur favorite players but 1 maybe 2
 
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joeyfkncrakk;c-9791932 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh

joeyfkncrakk;c-9792179 said:
How many rings would Hakeem have if Jordan didn't retire?

I can shit on you so easy with these posts. Matter of fact, since you ignored it the first time, Im gonna do it again.....

Kobe came in the league with one of the most dominant players in the league history IN HIS PRIME and played with him for 6 seasons as a starter. Credit to Kobe, they got 3 rings in those 6 years and made it back to another Finals til Kobe ran him outta town. Hakeem came into the league to team with Ralph Sampson who had a few good years with him until injuries derailed him and he got shipped outta town. In their 2nd year together, pulled off one of the greatest upsets by knocking off the Showtime Lakers in 5 cause Hakeem played like a machine. They lost in the Finals to one of the greatest teams ever in 6 games where Hakeem held Robert Parish to under 13/7 and had more points, rebounds and blocks than Finals MVP Larry Bird.

Hakeem played his first 10.5 years without a legit star guard until they traded for Clyde in 95 when he was at the tail end of his prime. And what did they do? Win a ring. Imagine if they traded for him years earlier. Or if Houston drafted him in 83 instead of Rodney McCray? They MIGHT've been Shaq N Kobe before Shaq N Kobe.

Hakeem in the playoffs averaged more points, steals and obviously far more blocks/rebounds than Kobe did. Kobe's only slight advantage is assists. Both averaged 2.9 turnovers. Hakeem's numbers improved in the playoffs across the board. Kobe's numbers in the playoffs were identical to his regular season stats despite playing more minutes. And Hakeem led a team full of role players to a ring which is something Kobe never came close to.

And like I said before, if you wanna pull that "Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings" shit I can pull the same with Kobe. MJ was still the man when he retired in 98, Scottie was still ballin and Kukoc was in his prime. If Jordan doesn't retire, everybody stays, including Phil. Which means he doesn't coach the Lakers. The Bulls still draft Ron Artest in 99 with the Suns conditional draft pick and who knows how else their roster changes.

Hakeem can actually say he won a ring in the same postseason Jordan played with the Bulls (1995). He can actually say he swept the team that knocked Jordan's Bulls off. Kobe can never say any of that.

And that Duncan being a role player his last 5 years bullshit is blasphemy. He made 2 All-Star, 2 All-NBA and 2 All-Defense teams his last 5 years and would've been Finals MVP in 2013 if Leonard and Manu hit their FTs. He was the 2nd best player on a contender his last 5 years until the last year when he finally became a role player. But he was a role player all those years? Fuck outta here.
 
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9791883 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

5x Champion

2x MVP

3x FMVP

Equal rings but he 1 upped him with an additional

MVP and FMVP

He's avg at least 20ppg 9 times.

In his prime he was avg

24pts 12reb 3.5asts and 2.5blks and is widely considered, hands down, the best PF of all time

I know what tim duncan did bruh Why did you think I made the comment The last 9 season he didn't ave 20 ppg and he stop ave 10 rebounds the 10-11 season

Where did you get the 24 ppg ave from because that seems to be off when he only ave 25 once and the other seasons were 22&23.

You bring up tim stats like kobe isn't better.
 
PanchoYoSancho;c-9792599 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9791932 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh

joeyfkncrakk;c-9792179 said:
How many rings would Hakeem have if Jordan didn't retire?

I can shit on you so easy with these posts. Matter of fact, since you ignored it the first time, Im gonna do it again.....

Kobe came in the league with one of the most dominant players in the league history IN HIS PRIME and played with him for 6 seasons as a starter. Credit to Kobe, they got 3 rings in those 6 years and made it back to another Finals til Kobe ran him outta town. Hakeem came into the league to team with Ralph Sampson who had a few good years with him until injuries derailed him and he got shipped outta town. In their 2nd year together, pulled off one of the greatest upsets by knocking off the Showtime Lakers in 5 cause Hakeem played like a machine. They lost in the Finals to one of the greatest teams ever in 6 games where Hakeem held Robert Parish to under 13/7 and had more points, rebounds and blocks than Finals MVP Larry Bird.

Hakeem played his first 10.5 years without a legit star guard until they traded for Clyde in 95 when he was at the tail end of his prime. And what did they do? Win a ring. Imagine if they traded for him years earlier. Or if Houston drafted him in 83 instead of Rodney McCray? They MIGHT've been Shaq N Kobe before Shaq N Kobe.

Hakeem in the playoffs averaged more points, steals and obviously far more blocks/rebounds than Kobe did. Kobe's only slight advantage is assists. Both averaged 2.9 turnovers. Hakeem's numbers improved in the playoffs across the board. Kobe's numbers in the playoffs were identical to his regular season stats despite playing more minutes. And Hakeem led a team full of role players to a ring which is something Kobe never came close to.

And like I said before, if you wanna pull that "Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings" shit I can pull the same with Kobe. MJ was still the man when he retired in 98, Scottie was still ballin and Kukoc was in his prime. If Jordan doesn't retire, everybody stays, including Phil. Which means he doesn't coach the Lakers. The Bulls still draft Ron Artest in 99 with the Suns conditional draft pick and who knows how else their roster changes.

Hakeem can actually say he won a ring in the same postseason Jordan played with the Bulls (1995). He can actually say he swept the team that knocked Jordan's Bulls off. Kobe can never say any of that.

And that Duncan being a role player his last 5 years bullshit is blasphemy. He made 2 All-Star, 2 All-NBA and 2 All-Defense teams his last 5 years and would've been Finals MVP in 2013 if Leonard and Manu hit their FTs. He was the 2nd best player on a contender his last 5 years until the last year when he finally became a role player. But he was a role player all those years? Fuck outta here.

He was though tim duncan was the prime duncan we all can see that but you can convince yourself that your right is you want too
 
Olorun22;c-9792678 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9791883 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

5x Champion

2x MVP

3x FMVP

Equal rings but he 1 upped him with an additional

MVP and FMVP

He's avg at least 20ppg 9 times.

In his prime he was avg

24pts 12reb 3.5asts and 2.5blks and is widely considered, hands down, the best PF of all time

I know what tim duncan did bruh Why did you think I made the comment The last 9 season he didn't ave 20 ppg and he stop ave 10 rebounds the 10-11 season

Where did you get the 24 ppg ave from because that seems to be off when he only ave 25 once and the other seasons were 22&23.

You bring up tim stats like kobe isn't better.

Bro he only averaged the years he wanted to add up smh lmao... I know Kobe averaged 25 a game for his career tho without the funny bidness
 
PanchoYoSancho;c-9792599 said:
joeyfkncrakk;c-9791932 said:
Olorun22;c-9791441 said:
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9790044 said:
I always say Kobe stans rate him too high and Kobe haters rate him too low. I say that as objective as possible because no matter what he's my favorite player ever.

Kobe has had any amazing career but it's still hard to rate him over (in order)

MJ

Kareem

Magic

Bron

Duncan

Bird

Shaq

Hakeem

Kobe

I'm not ranking Wilt, Russell, Oscar, Dr J, Jerry etc but Kobe without them and where ever you put him is 9th on my list.

Out of thousands that have played Kobe is 9th. Top 10 alone is amazing. I see nothing wrong with that.

Why is Duncan over kobe I don't get that one. Duncan wasn't pretty up stats for a long time.. How many season did he average of 20ppg

Bro these dudes are delusional.. that's all, ask them why Hakeem over Kobe... Kobe outcareered both of them... Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings and niggas aint got any qualms against him, Duncan was a high level role player last 5 years high key , they give all their fav players passes on their low points in their career but don't want to evaluate the totality of their careers smh

joeyfkncrakk;c-9792179 said:
How many rings would Hakeem have if Jordan didn't retire?

I can shit on you so easy with these posts. Matter of fact, since you ignored it the first time, Im gonna do it again.....

Kobe came in the league with one of the most dominant players in the league history IN HIS PRIME and played with him for 6 seasons as a starter. Credit to Kobe, they got 3 rings in those 6 years and made it back to another Finals til Kobe ran him outta town. Hakeem came into the league to team with Ralph Sampson who had a few good years with him until injuries derailed him and he got shipped outta town. In their 2nd year together, pulled off one of the greatest upsets by knocking off the Showtime Lakers in 5 cause Hakeem played like a machine. They lost in the Finals to one of the greatest teams ever in 6 games where Hakeem held Robert Parish to under 13/7 and had more points, rebounds and blocks than Finals MVP Larry Bird.

Hakeem played his first 10.5 years without a legit star guard until they traded for Clyde in 95 when he was at the tail end of his prime. And what did they do? Win a ring. Imagine if they traded for him years earlier. Or if Houston drafted him in 83 instead of Rodney McCray? They MIGHT've been Shaq N Kobe before Shaq N Kobe.

Hakeem in the playoffs averaged more points, steals and obviously far more blocks/rebounds than Kobe did. Kobe's only slight advantage is assists. Both averaged 2.9 turnovers. Hakeem's numbers improved in the playoffs across the board. Kobe's numbers in the playoffs were identical to his regular season stats despite playing more minutes. And Hakeem led a team full of role players to a ring which is something Kobe never came close to.

And like I said before, if you wanna pull that "Hakeem lucked up on 2 rings" shit I can pull the same with Kobe. MJ was still the man when he retired in 98, Scottie was still ballin and Kukoc was in his prime. If Jordan doesn't retire, everybody stays, including Phil. Which means he doesn't coach the Lakers. The Bulls still draft Ron Artest in 99 with the Suns conditional draft pick and who knows how else their roster changes.

Hakeem can actually say he won a ring in the same postseason Jordan played with the Bulls (1995). He can actually say he swept the team that knocked Jordan's Bulls off. Kobe can never say any of that.

And that Duncan being a role player his last 5 years bullshit is blasphemy. He made 2 All-Star, 2 All-NBA and 2 All-Defense teams his last 5 years and would've been Finals MVP in 2013 if Leonard and Manu hit their FTs. He was the 2nd best player on a contender his last 5 years until the last year when he finally became a role player. But he was a role player all those years? Fuck outta here.

Shut yo Stephen A long winded ass up with all the "imagine if's"' and "I wonder's" Hakeem gets credit for losing a finals foh! Kobe 5/7 in finals and got 2 without Shaq as we all know so kill that noise... Hakeem never saw rings until MJ took a hiatus when Mike was back in good ole 23 where was the Rockets... Kobe won without the Diesel, all your favorite guys needed help, who got the job done more, Kobe case closed
 

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