Is Kobe Bryant Top 5 All Time? (List ur top 5)

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ericb4prez;9343290 said:
I love how niggaz act like Gasol was considered nice before he played with Kobe

You buggin with this shit.....he been nice ever since he entered the league......niggas knew him with Kobe would be a problem
 
KneeGro_DuperMan;9344173 said:
ericb4prez;9343290 said:
I love how niggaz act like Gasol was considered nice before he played with Kobe

You buggin with this shit.....he been nice ever since he entered the league......niggas knew him with Kobe would be a problem

But he was Kevin Love aka hollow stats, 7 seasons in Memphis with 1 all star appearance
 
The Lebron "super team criticism" has really grown to epic proportions. Shit's ridiculous and hilarious at the same time

Let's have some perspective.

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1999-2000 Lakers

VS

2012-2013 Heat


Kobe ~ Lebron

Shaq >>> Wade

A.C. Green Past Prime Ray Allen

Ron Harper>>> Mario Chalmers

Robert Horry > Shane Battier

Brian Shaw < Mike Miller

Rick Fox ~ Rashard Lewis

Derek Fisher >> Noris Cole

Devean George ~ Udonis Haslem

Travis Knight ~ Joel Anthony

John Salley ~ Juan Howard
 
Somebody go player for player of this year's Cavs team vs the Kobe/Gasol Lakers.

Without the media hype and aggressive narratives, a lot of you niggas would be surprised what you find....
 
Yep, I was being generous...

cuz you know someone is going to bring up Rashard's All Star appearance and accuracy from distance.

But if you actually watched the games

its....JOHN B;9344962 said:
Man Rick Fox>>2012-13 Shard Lewis too

Easily.
 
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bless the child;9343749 said:
I like how niggaz tryna downplay Kobe's level of talent around him to try and elevate his status. Lol...shit is funny B.

Nobody is downplaying, y'all are clearly overrating talent
 
Peace_79;9345002 said:
Yep, I was being generous...

cuz you know someone is going to bring up Rashard's All Star appearance and accuracy from distance.

But if you actually watched the games

its....JOHN B;9344962 said:
Man Rick Fox>>2012-13 Shard Lewis too

Easily.

Y'all niggas are so corny. This is what it comes down to, Rick Fox or Rashard Lewis.
 
Peace_79;9344910 said:
Somebody go player for player of this year's Cavs team vs the Kobe/Gasol Lakers.

Without the media hype and aggressive narratives, a lot of you niggas would be surprised what you find....

I'm tryna figure out what you're tryna find here. I mean, a team that went to 3 straight finals and won two back to back is obviously ca great team,, but who was calling the Cavs a super team after the Warriors won 73 games. Ultimately what are you trying to prove, that championship teams compare skill and talent wise? No shit, but y'all in here talking bout talent and who score how many points a game and who grabbed how many boards, all while completely neglecting matchups and team cohesion. Keep on moving the goal posts though.
 
ericb4prez;9343330 said:
its....JOHN B;9343319 said:
ericb4prez;9343306 said:
And now Bynum,Gasol, and Odom is the best front court of this generation lol

Tell me a better one

You don't think Pierce,KG, and Perk could give em problems

Bruh don't let these niggas hyperbole make you think twice about how you feel, niggas start bolding words and making outrageous statements to sound like they know what they talking about.
 
804;9345115 said:
Peace_79;9344910 said:
Somebody go player for player of this year's Cavs team vs the Kobe/Gasol Lakers.

Without the media hype and aggressive narratives, a lot of you niggas would be surprised what you find....

I'm tryna figure out what you're tryna find here.

Obviously, chemistry, matchups and cohesion play a part in a team's success. No one is debating that here.

Rick Fox, Radhard Lewis ...

That was just one example of a player comparison ... in the argument comparing two teams ...

One of those teams, Lebron's Heat, is considered a "SUPER TEAM" whose "immense levels of talent" require the majority of fans to take credit away from Lebron for any titles that he won while playing with such an "elite team"...

The BETTER team ... is the Shaq/Kobe Lakers ... whose associated titles only serve to add to Kobe Bryant's legacy.

Thus questioning the veracity of the " Super Team" argument many use to invalidate Lebron's greatness

And please don't sit here and tell me that niggas don't do the bolded. Evidence is in this very thread.

That what the purpose of the exercise.

 
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Peace_79;9345200 said:
804;9345115 said:
Peace_79;9344910 said:
Somebody go player for player of this year's Cavs team vs the Kobe/Gasol Lakers.

Without the media hype and aggressive narratives, a lot of you niggas would be surprised what you find....

I'm tryna figure out what you're tryna find here.

Obviously, chemistry, matchups and cohesion play a part in a team's success. No one is debating that here.

Rick Fox, Radhard Lewis ...

That was just one example of a player comparison ... in the argument comparing two teams ...

One of those teams, Lebron's Heat, is considered a "SUPER TEAM" whose "immense levels of talent" require the majority of fans to take credit away from Lebron for any titles that he won while playing with such an "elite team"...

The BETTER team ... is the Shaq/Kobe Lakers ... whose associated titles only serve to add to Kobe Bryant's legacy.

Thus questioning the veracity of the " Super Team" argument many use to invalidate Lebron's greatness

And please don't sit here and tell me that niggas don't do the bolded. Evidence is in this very thread.

That what the purpose of the exercise.

Yea, yea...at the end of the day if you're saying Shaq/Kobe Lakers is a super team, then you're paying Kobe a lot of respect if you really watched those game's.

That being said, what the Heat and James and company did was clearly different than what the Lakers did. Shit was a well orchestrated effort to get rich quick, as evidenced by LeBron proclaiming the Heat were gonna win 7 or 8 titles. Kobe/Shaq and the rest of the Lakers grew into an all-time great team, which is ultimately why they're comparable, because the Heat eventually became an all-time great team.
 
804;9345042 said:
bless the child;9343749 said:
I like how niggaz tryna downplay Kobe's level of talent around him to try and elevate his status. Lol...shit is funny B.

Nobody is downplaying, y'all are clearly overrating talent

LOL how nigga? Those numbers on a squad with Kobe and Gasol doesn't say overrated. They were key pieces to the Lakers success. You can't tell me the Lakers wouldve won shit without Bynum and Odom.
 
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Not bout to argue with no butt hurt space jammers.

Kobe played the top 2 greatest defensive teams the league has ever seen in the deepest most competitive western conferences the league ever seen. Where you could win 50 games and not be guaranteed a playoff birth. Unheard off. He did it with a trash playoff avging 12ppg super soft choking wimp in Gasol who was only good during the first title run and the Lakers were already the 1seed before he got there)

1. Kobe (everything Jordan had skillwise and more better playmaker and shooter beat better teams with less help)

2. Jordan (played in a watered down expansion league with his own super team that won 2less games without him. Lost to Shaq on the magic)

3. Shaq (most dominant ever should be undisputed goat but got lazy)

4. Kareem (could be switched with Shaq)

5. Magic (should have lost 2 rings to Isiah)

6. Wilt (the league changed the rules to stop him unlike how they changed em 2 help Jordan)

7. Zeke (only person with winning record against Jordan bird and magic)

8. LeBron (will be 3rd soon even though he is one of the most mentally soft on the list)

9. Hakeem

10. Bird

 
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ReppinTime;9345593 said:
Not bout to argue with no butt hurt space jammers.

Kobe played the top 2 greatest defensive teams the league has ever seen in the deepest most competitive western conferences the league ever seen. Where you could win 50 games and not be guaranteed a playoff birth. Unheard off. He did it with a trash playoff avging 12ppg super soft choking wimp in Gasol who was only good during the first title run and the Lakers were already the 1seed before he got there)

1. Kobe (everything Jordan had skillwise and more better playmaker and shooter beat better teams with less help)

2. Jordan (played in a watered down expansion league with his own super team that won 2less games without him. Lost to Shaq on the magic)

3. Shaq (most dominant ever should be undisputed goat but got lazy)

4. Kareem (could be switched with Shaq)

5. Magic (should have lost 2 rings to Isiah)

6. Wilt (the league changed the rules to stop him unlike how they changed em 2 help Jordan)

7. Zeke (only person with winning record against Jordan bird and magic)

8. LeBron (will be 3rd soon even though he is one of the most mentally soft on the list)

9. Hakeem

10. Bird

Nice list... Bold list I might add
 
804;9345128 said:
ericb4prez;9343330 said:
its....JOHN B;9343319 said:
ericb4prez;9343306 said:
And now Bynum,Gasol, and Odom is the best front court of this generation lol

Tell me a better one

You don't think Pierce,KG, and Perk could give em problems

Bruh don't let these niggas hyperbole make you think twice about how you feel, niggas start bolding words and making outrageous statements to sound like they know what they talking about.

Lol honestly I wanted to hear him say his Celtics frontline would get abused
 
You idiots act like "superteam" is an actual NBA term and not some shit the media made up to market that Heat team, and now there's rules as to what makes up a "superteam" lol, if those Laker teams don't meet your bullshit criteria as to what a superteam is fine....but they still were better teams
 
its....JOHN B;9346899 said:
You idiots act like "superteam" is an actual NBA term and not some shit the media made up to market that Heat team, and now there's rules as to what makes up a "superteam" lol, if those Laker teams don't meet your bullshit criteria as to what a superteam is fine....but they still were better teams

I'm a Lakers fan, of course I feel like we would have waxed that ass, so you'll get little argument from me there
 
Peace_79;9345002 said:
Yep, I was being generous...

cuz you know someone is going to bring up Rashard's All Star appearance and accuracy from distance.

But if you actually watched the games

its....JOHN B;9344962 said:
Man Rick Fox>>2012-13 Shard Lewis too

Easily.

Rashard Lewis' all star appearance came from a Chris Webber injury. He was decent but idk bout a hunnid mill decent

 

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