Is Eminem a considered a legend to black rsp fans

[Stew]

this chick is trying her hardest to get stews attention lol

What she doesn't know is unless I get @'d by someone else who quotes her I won't even open the email to see where she @'d me at and when I do go to the post that someone else quoted ill skip right by her shit and read the other persons quote. RNS

 

[KamPushMe]

Eminem a legend!?

 

[GunTown]

@LikeWater I'll give u props u atleast explained yourself even though u were vague as hell

Rather than pretending like half his discography isn't relatable, deep, emotional, personal songs

U not insecure to admit he does have deep songs or troll like he doesn't

I just think if u a hardcore hip-hop fan u gonna prefer the relatable subject matter/songs in a dark, gritty, hardcore way like how Nas, Scarface, 2pac, Joe Budden, Outkast, Wu Tang, Dead Prez, Public Enemy present it

Where as if u a music fan, a fan of catchy music u gonna prefer the relatable subject matter/songs how Eminem, B.o.B, Drake, Kid Cudi, Kate Perry, Justin Beiber, Adele Micheal Jackson prersent it

Shut upppppp u dont kno shit . Eminem shit is hard for black person to relate to . I think hes corny jus appeals to the crackaz. Dont ever compare pac to this craka again he fucked up pa legacy wit that bullshit i kno that fucker did it on purpose . U a paki wtf u kno bout hiphop

Not from Pakistan

Know more about hip-hop and music than u do

U a troll but i'll bite

So there's no blacks that are proud parents and love their kids like Eminem does? (Mockinbird, Hailie's Song, When I'm Gone)

There's no blacks that love their mothers like Eminem loves his and made a song dedicated to loving his? (Headlights)

There's no blacks that grew up in poverty in public housing/section 8 housing in the inner city? (Rock Bottom, 8 MIle Road, If I Had, Lose Yourself)

There's no blacks that grew up in a single parent home like Eminem did? (Sing For The Moment, Cleaqning Out My Closet)

There's no blacks that ever been divorced, been cheated on, broken up with a partner? (Stronger Than I Was, Spacebound, Love You More, Crazy In Love)

There's no blacks that ever been through depression (Beautiful, Not Afraid, Going Through Changes)

There's no blacks that hate the system, opressive government (We As Americans, Mosh, Square Dance)

There's no blacks lost a friend in the streets (Like Toy Soldiers, You're Never Over, Difficult)

There's no blacks who ever caught a case and had issues with the law? (Soldier)

There's no blacks who ever fucked bad ? (Superman, So Bad)

There's no blacks who over came drug addiction? (Not Afraid, Beautiful, Be Careful What You Wish For, Beautiful)

There's no blacks who ever had an argument and been kicked out by their mother? (Cleaning Out My Closet)

There's no blacks that are motivated to make it to the top and escape their struggles? (Gut's Over Fear, Till I Collapse, King's Never Die, Lose Yourself)

It doesn't matter if the subject is relatable if the presentation doesn't resonate with the listener. I don't know what's so difficult about understanding that concept. It's rather rudimentary.

You Eminem zealots will forgo common sense and objectivity if someone doesn't hail him as a savior or some shit. Smh. It's annoying as fuck and another reason we (black folks and hip-hop heads) don't like him -- because his fanbase truly is made up of stans.

But u the only 1 who has ever ever actually bothered to explain yourself and said it doesn't matter if the subject matter is relatable if the presintation doesn't resonate with u. And LabBaby too recently he did as well

Nothing hard to get about that have no issues with u for not liking him because of the presintation

But unlike u and a few other good dudes like @5th letter who not fans like that but will atleast explain why they don't like the deep songs

Most the IC pretend as if the deep songs don't exist it's just those trolls i hate

Yo @GunTown it's apparent Eminem has had a profound effect on u. Cool. You feel his "deep" songs. Got u. Him being your favorite rapper does nit mean he is a legend. It definitely doesn't mean he would be a legend to Black rap fans, which is what the topic is. Are you Black?? If not, how could u really have an opinion on what Black people think??

@Stew you're in Atlanta, right?? When was the last time you heard anyone in Atlanta that was Black bump any song from Eminem that wasn't Lose Yourself and wasn't in the gym or a workout environment?? Is he a dope rapper?? Absolutely. But he's sold a large amount of albums mainly for the same reason Baseball continues to be popular, even though it's boring as fuck: it's because Whites want a person that looks like them that they can cheer for. Ever wonder why many Whites claim to hate the NBA?? Take a guess...

Yeah of course theres been times i been homeless, had nothing at all no money, no food, been cheated on in relationships, struggled coming from a welfare home, saw my parents struggle and his music got me through that it connected like no other rappers music

I don't care what others think his music has made me cry, really got me like that u can call me a softie i don't care i'm not ashamed to admit it

And as far as the topic goes i was 1 of the first posters in here to say he not a legend to black hip-hop fans 1 is dillusional or naive to think he is. The fact is he is not i do not dispute that or would pretend he is a legend to the black community

But i have a question bruh

Let's say Em was black only thing different was he was black but he had this song


U think blacks would not be like yeah this is mad deep, i'm resonating with the depth i feel it, it touched me?

And lets 2pac was white and he made this song u think blacks would be feeling it like they do now?

I've said this for years, if a Black dude made a lot of the songs Eminem has made, he'd be considered an even bigger legend in the Black community. Eminem can rap for days and his subject matter is actually very deep in a lot of his songs, a lot deeper then I hear from a lot of these mainstream artists that's out now. 2pac had the gift of making versatile songs too, but because Eminem is white, many will hold that against him. I can't even name 5 rappers alive now who can out rap Eminem in a battle, and that's another legendary aspect of him.

Eminem has mastered almost all of the traits needed to be a legendary rapper, classic albums, songs, and a history of vicious battling, almost never losing. How that is not considered legendary is beyond me.

Yeah and i alwways said him singing makes his deep songs even more emotional

Singing is always gonna bring more emotion that rapping so that is a huge reason why Eminem fans are fans of his. In another thread i posted Tweets of Eminem dans saying the sin ging is a huge aspect of why they listen to him

2pac just rapped which he did extremley well of course

But they both have songs about the same subject matter

Poverty

Growing up in a single parent home

Depression

Welfare household

Being homeless

Relationships

Fame

Politics

God

Just Eminem style with the deep songs is catchy it's got the substance but the songs especially things like the hooks and melodies stay stuck in your head

Where as Pac is just substance in a typical rap way like Scarface, Nas, Chuck D and Black Thought

Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi have a substance that is more musical melody driven

 

[AZTG]

I was never into his music, but he was ok to me. Id listen to certain songs every few months. But i never listened to son in 3-4 years. So recently i was on a long drive and i was like fuck it ill put on some Eminem. I go on spotify and put on SSLP, listened to maybe 1 and a half songs and skipped the rest. Then i was like let me listen to MMLP next, and i was only able to listen to 2 songs fully. Skipped the rest.

So nah, he aint no legend to me.

 

[doodle]

Even Bizarre is a better rapper than Eminem. That whiteboy outright sucks.

 

[GunTown]

@kingblaze84 u are obviously a cool dude, quite mature, not a troll unlike most the IC

Do u think alot of blacks that don't like his music think he lying and he never really grew up poor, never grew up in a welfare home, never struggled working minumum wage jobs, never was homeless, never grew up in a single parent home, never grew up in section 8

Because for alotta people it seems like it is hard to believe a white person actually came from the struggle and poverty and went through all them struggles

Funny enough @Usmarin said he feels Eminem is lying an obvious known troll and known idiot but i can't help but think some on the IC actually do think this

 

[zzombie]

We don't give a fucking about that white boy coming from poverty .White poverty is not like black poverty..different race different experiences

 

[GunTown]

We don't give a fucking about that white boy coming from poverty .White poverty is not like black poverty..different race different experiences

But the same funemental struggles lack of money, struggling to pay bills, living in cheap housing, living around crime, struggling to pay rent, getting by on welfare

But u are also wrong in this case as Eminem grew up in a black hood populated by blacks

 

[gemini86]

fuck this thread but lemme ask this. DO yall think if another white artist was in Ems place on aftermath, would they have the same success. Paul wall, bubba, keayshawn, macklemore? i highly doubt it. theres something special about eminem. its ok to give him his props. dude is a legend

 

[GunTown]

fuck this thread but lemme ask this. DO yall think if another white artist was in Ems place on aftermath, would they have the same success. Paul wall, bubba, keayshawn, macklemore? i highly doubt it. theres something special about eminem. its ok to give him his props. dude is a legend

It's called Song Writing

He is the greatest Song Writer ever

 

[zzombie]

We don't give a fucking about that white boy coming from poverty .White poverty is not like black poverty..different race different experiences

But the same funemental struggles lack of money, struggling to pay bills, living in cheap housing, living around crime, struggling to pay rent, getting by on welfare

But u are also wrong in this case as Eminem grew up in a black hood populated by blacks

Nope sorry it's not the same at all you can grow up around members of a different race but that does not mean anything you are still what you are and your perspective will naturally be different from the people around you.

poor white trash and poor ghetto black people only share poverty , the reasons why they are there are totally different.

 

[kingblaze84]

@LikeWater I'll give u props u atleast explained yourself even though u were vague as hell

Rather than pretending like half his discography isn't relatable, deep, emotional, personal songs

U not insecure to admit he does have deep songs or troll like he doesn't

I just think if u a hardcore hip-hop fan u gonna prefer the relatable subject matter/songs in a dark, gritty, hardcore way like how Nas, Scarface, 2pac, Joe Budden, Outkast, Wu Tang, Dead Prez, Public Enemy present it

Where as if u a music fan, a fan of catchy music u gonna prefer the relatable subject matter/songs how Eminem, B.o.B, Drake, Kid Cudi, Kate Perry, Justin Beiber, Adele Micheal Jackson prersent it

Shut upppppp u dont kno shit . Eminem shit is hard for black person to relate to . I think hes corny jus appeals to the crackaz. Dont ever compare pac to this craka again he fucked up pa legacy wit that bullshit i kno that fucker did it on purpose . U a paki wtf u kno bout hiphop

Not from Pakistan

Know more about hip-hop and music than u do

U a troll but i'll bite

So there's no blacks that are proud parents and love their kids like Eminem does? (Mockinbird, Hailie's Song, When I'm Gone)

There's no blacks that love their mothers like Eminem loves his and made a song dedicated to loving his? (Headlights)

There's no blacks that grew up in poverty in public housing/section 8 housing in the inner city? (Rock Bottom, 8 MIle Road, If I Had, Lose Yourself)

There's no blacks that grew up in a single parent home like Eminem did? (Sing For The Moment, Cleaqning Out My Closet)

There's no blacks that ever been divorced, been cheated on, broken up with a partner? (Stronger Than I Was, Spacebound, Love You More, Crazy In Love)

There's no blacks that ever been through depression (Beautiful, Not Afraid, Going Through Changes)

There's no blacks that hate the system, opressive government (We As Americans, Mosh, Square Dance)

There's no blacks lost a friend in the streets (Like Toy Soldiers, You're Never Over, Difficult)

There's no blacks who ever caught a case and had issues with the law? (Soldier)

There's no blacks who ever fucked bad ? (Superman, So Bad)

There's no blacks who over came drug addiction? (Not Afraid, Beautiful, Be Careful What You Wish For, Beautiful)

There's no blacks who ever had an argument and been kicked out by their mother? (Cleaning Out My Closet)

There's no blacks that are motivated to make it to the top and escape their struggles? (Gut's Over Fear, Till I Collapse, King's Never Die, Lose Yourself)

It doesn't matter if the subject is relatable if the presentation doesn't resonate with the listener. I don't know what's so difficult about understanding that concept. It's rather rudimentary.

You Eminem zealots will forgo common sense and objectivity if someone doesn't hail him as a savior or some shit. Smh. It's annoying as fuck and another reason we (black folks and hip-hop heads) don't like him -- because his fanbase truly is made up of stans.

But u the only 1 who has ever ever actually bothered to explain yourself and said it doesn't matter if the subject matter is relatable if the presintation doesn't resonate with u. And LabBaby too recently he did as well

Nothing hard to get about that have no issues with u for not liking him because of the presintation

But unlike u and a few other good dudes like @5th letter who not fans like that but will atleast explain why they don't like the deep songs

Most the IC pretend as if the deep songs don't exist it's just those trolls i hate

Yo @GunTown it's apparent Eminem has had a profound effect on u. Cool. You feel his "deep" songs. Got u. Him being your favorite rapper does nit mean he is a legend. It definitely doesn't mean he would be a legend to Black rap fans, which is what the topic is. Are you Black?? If not, how could u really have an opinion on what Black people think??

@Stew you're in Atlanta, right?? When was the last time you heard anyone in Atlanta that was Black bump any song from Eminem that wasn't Lose Yourself and wasn't in the gym or a workout environment?? Is he a dope rapper?? Absolutely. But he's sold a large amount of albums mainly for the same reason Baseball continues to be popular, even though it's boring as fuck: it's because Whites want a person that looks like them that they can cheer for. Ever wonder why many Whites claim to hate the NBA?? Take a guess...

What's funny is I heard the TES coming out of a window from one the hoodest fuckin apt complexs I've ever worked out of that I've never seen a white person in off of Hollywood Rd and it's happened other times, even posted about it right after it happened last time but y'all know everything and know every black person in the world apparently lol

I've seen the same thing in hood and non-hood Black neighborhoods, I live in one and my high school was mostly Black and Hispanic, Eminem for the most part got love among Blacks I knew. I've seen this from hood dudes to regular people. Not as much love as some others true, but enough to be respected. The songs 50 made with Eminem were especially popular. When 50 and others made songs with him, I almost never heard hate for him. Only on the IC did I first start seeing a lot of hate for him....rarely have heard this in person. I find that interesting.

 

[GunTown]

We don't give a fucking about that white boy coming from poverty .White poverty is not like black poverty..different race different experiences

But the same funemental struggles lack of money, struggling to pay bills, living in cheap housing, living around crime, struggling to pay rent, getting by on welfare

But u are also wrong in this case as Eminem grew up in a black hood populated by blacks

Nope sorry it's not the same at all you can grow up around members of a different race but that does not mean anything you are still what you are and your perspective will naturally be different from the people around you.

poor white trash and poor ghetto black people only share poverty , the reasons why they are there are totally different.

Of course there is differences but the fundementals being the same was my point

 

[kingblaze84]

@kingblaze84 u are obviously a cool dude, quite mature, not a troll unlike most the IC

Do u think alot of blacks that don't like his music think he lying and he never really grew up poor, never grew up in a welfare home, never struggled working minumum wage jobs, never was homeless, never grew up in a single parent home, never grew up in section 8

Because for alotta people it seems like it is hard to believe a white person actually came from the struggle and poverty and went through all them struggles

Funny enough @Usmarin said he feels Eminem is lying an obvious known troll and known idiot but i can't help but think some on the IC actually do think this

Thanks man.....

And yeah I do believe many Blacks are unaware that many Whites are broke and can be poor as hell. I guess that's why some Blacks can't really believe his stories but I've seen broke White prostitutes with kids not too far from them. I seen some crazy shit and from my travels, have seen that many Whites are poor and some doing way worse then some Blacks.

As I've said here before, I think many people here don't go outside much or stay in their hood without being aware of what's out there. I do understand why so many Blacks hate Whites and will never take Em seriously, I get that part. Whites have been a pretty evil race for such a long time that anything a white rapper does won't be enough.

But if more Blacks appreciate the TALENT, and focus on that, I can't see why Eminem's legendary status should be denied. Even if one doesn't like his music, they should respect how much he's done for Hip-Hop by putting on 50, Royce, and a whole bunch of others. He has way more deeper songs then Lil Wayne, Future, Meek Mill or some of these other mainstream artists out here, that's for fucking sure.

 

[kingblaze84]

fuck this thread but lemme ask this. DO yall think if another white artist was in Ems place on aftermath, would they have the same success. Paul wall, bubba, keayshawn, macklemore? i highly doubt it. theres something special about eminem. its ok to give him his props. dude is a legend

You gonna hear crickets now.....but co-sign

 

[kingblaze84]

Same niggas here who will bash Eminem will praise a wack ass Meek Mill album or lyrically sub-par Future album HAHA lol smh.....#welcometotheIC

 

[nujerz84]

Remember this the IC that back 2002/2003 when Em was the biggest Music Artist on the planet said that 11K Selling Benzino had more black fans buying his albums.

 

[a_list]

yo, dude prolly has what 8-9 albums and I like maybe 5 songs of his...Lol how is that legendary?...Nobody will say he has 0 black fans cmon now, but he's not heavy in the black demo....

 

[GunTown]

@kingblaze84 u are obviously a cool dude, quite mature, not a troll unlike most the IC

Do u think alot of blacks that don't like his music think he lying and he never really grew up poor, never grew up in a welfare home, never struggled working minumum wage jobs, never was homeless, never grew up in a single parent home, never grew up in section 8

Because for alotta people it seems like it is hard to believe a white person actually came from the struggle and poverty and went through all them struggles

Funny enough @Usmarin said he feels Eminem is lying an obvious known troll and known idiot but i can't help but think some on the IC actually do think this

Thanks man.....

And yeah I do believe many Blacks are unaware that many Whites are broke and can be poor as hell. I guess that's why some Blacks can't really believe his stories but I've seen broke White prostitutes with kids not too far from them. I seen some crazy shit and from my travels, have seen that many Whites are poor and some doing way worse then some Blacks.

As I've said here before, I think many people here don't go outside much or stay in their hood without being aware of what's out there. I do understand why so many Blacks hate Whites and will never take Em seriously, I get that part. Whites have been a pretty evil race for such a long time that anything a white rapper does won't be enough.

But if more Blacks appreciate the TALENT, and focus on that, I can't see why Eminem's legendary status should be denied. Even if one doesn't like his music, they should respect how much he's done for Hip-Hop by putting on 50, Royce, and a whole bunch of others. He has way more deeper songs then Lil Wayne, Future, Meek Mill or some of these other mainstream artists out here, that's for fucking sure.

He has more deep songs than any other mainstream rapper. Only a few rappers in history have more deep songs like Z-Ro, Bone Thugs, Kid Cudi



If I Had, Rock Bottom, The Way I Am, Stan, Marshall Mathers, Who Knew, Hailie's Song, Say Goodbye To Hollywood, Cleaning Out My Closet, White America, Square Dance, Sing For The Moment, Till I Collapse, Soldier, Drips, Lose Yourself, 8 Mile Road, Rabbit Run, Mockingbird, Like Toy Soldiers, We As Americans, Mosh, Spend Some Time, Crazy In Love, Ricky Ticky Toc, Love You More, Never Enough, When I'm Gone, The Apple, Beautiful, Be Careful What You Wish For, Deja Vu, My Darling, Not Afraid, Going Through Changes, You're Never Over, Spacebound, Talkin To Myself, Almost Famous, Love The Way You Lie, Stronger Than I Was, Beautiful Pain, So Much Better, Legacy, The Monster, Headlights, Gut's Over Fear, Twisted, Fine Line, Phenominal, King's Never Die

Also has produced 90% of his music himself, sung the hooks on 95% of his songs himself

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

zzombie is getting ethered in this thread lol

Rakim and tupacs mom opinion on hip hop dont matter according to him!!

can we close this wierdo racist threads?

i think talking about ICP would be more normal at this point