5th Letter
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Hey guys Ja Rule sold records too AND has respect of his peers (sans 50) so he must be a legend too right?
bossdon201
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Sales don't make you a fucking legend. 80% of his sales are based off him being a white gimmick and benefiting from white privelege. Shit if that's the case motherfucking Bill Gates could put out an album and buy 10 mill of them shits and go triple platinum first week. Would he be considered a legend? Em music was wack when it first came out and even worse now and like some others said the shit just doesn't move me on any occasion
Why does @Stew stan so hard for Eminem?
When he doesn't like Em's deep, emotional, personal songs he hasn't been through the struggles in life to relate but even if 1 doesn't relate to poverty, growing up in the hood, in a single parent home, divorce, depression, growing up on welfare etc 1 can still like deep music from the artist. Alot of Em's fan base who like his deep music ain't been through the struggles simply just like his deep music but Stew clearly doesn't
With Stew he likes the multi's, flow, rhyme schemes, violant content etc but why Stan so hard just coz u like those things when Jay Z, Nas, Canibus, Royce, Big Pun, Andre 3000, J Cole, Scarface, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and many more u get all that from more and are better at those things
I never got this because someone who likes his deep tracks u can see why they would go hard for him because a song like Beautiful impacted their life helped them over came a struggle, got them through their struggle, inspired them
But what excuse is their to stan so hard when u just like the artist for shit like flow and multis? u can get that from a ninja like Rakim but Stew don't go hard for Rakim like that
When he doesn't like Em's deep, emotional, personal songs he hasn't been through the struggles in life to relate but even if 1 doesn't relate to poverty, growing up in the hood, in a single parent home, divorce, depression, growing up on welfare etc 1 can still like deep music from the artist. Alot of Em's fan base who like his deep music ain't been through the struggles simply just like his deep music but Stew clearly doesn't
With Stew he likes the multi's, flow, rhyme schemes, violant content etc but why Stan so hard just coz u like those things when Jay Z, Nas, Canibus, Royce, Big Pun, Andre 3000, J Cole, Scarface, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and many more u get all that from more and are better at those things
I never got this because someone who likes his deep tracks u can see why they would go hard for him because a song like Beautiful impacted their life helped them over came a struggle, got them through their struggle, inspired them
But what excuse is their to stan so hard when u just like the artist for shit like flow and multis? u can get that from a ninja like Rakim but Stew don't go hard for Rakim like that
Like Water;8314044 said:
But u the only 1 who has ever ever actually bothered to explain yourself and said it doesn't matter if the subject matter is relatable if the presintation doesn't resonate with u. And LabBaby too recently he did as well
Nothing hard to get about that have no issues with u for not liking him because of the presintation
But unlike u and a few other good dudes like @5th letter who not fans like that but will atleast explain why they don't like the deep songs
Most the IC pretend as if the deep songs don't exist it's just those trolls i hate
manofmorehouse
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GunTown;8315571 said:
Yo @GunTown it's apparent Eminem has had a profound effect on u. Cool. You feel his "deep" songs. Got u. Him being your favorite rapper does nit mean he is a legend. It definitely doesn't mean he would be a legend to Black rap fans, which is what the topic is. Are you Black?? If not, how could u really have an opinion on what Black people think??
@Stew you're in Atlanta, right?? When was the last time you heard anyone in Atlanta that was Black bump any song from Eminem that wasn't Lose Yourself and wasn't in the gym or a workout environment?? Is he a dope rapper?? Absolutely. But he's sold a large amount of albums mainly for the same reason Baseball continues to be popular, even though it's boring as fuck: it's because Whites want a person that looks like them that they can cheer for. Ever wonder why many Whites claim to hate the NBA?? Take a guess...
manofmorehouse;8315606 said:
Yeah of course theres been times i been homeless, had nothing at all no money, no food, been cheated on in relationships, struggled coming from a welfare home, saw my parents struggle and his music got me through that it connected like no other rappers music
I don't care what others think his music has made me cry, really got me like that u can call me a softie i don't care i'm not ashamed to admit it
And as far as the topic goes i was 1 of the first posters in here to say he not a legend to black hip-hop fans 1 is dillusional or naive to think he is. The fact is he is not i do not dispute that or would pretend he is a legend to the black community
But i have a question bruh
Let's say Em was black only thing different was he was black but he had this song
U think blacks would not be like yeah this is mad deep, i'm resonating with the depth i feel it, it touched me?
And lets 2pac was white and he made this song u think blacks would be feeling it like they do now?
kingblaze84
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rubixcuban;8314794 said:
I've met plenty of 2pac stans (not including myself) who don't know shit about Nas and many times even hate Nas. I've met plenty of 2pac fans who have said Nas is boring and would have no idea who Black Thought is. Many of these people are Black too, I've seen and spoken to them in the Bronx to my old college. What does that say about 2pac fans? Nothing. But if you're speaking about White people then you could be right (most of the time lol)
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Stew
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manofmorehouse;8315606 said:
What's funny is I heard the TES coming out of a window from one the hoodest fuckin apt complexs I've ever worked out of that I've never seen a white person in off of Hollywood Rd and it's happened other times, even posted about it right after it happened last time but y'all know everything and know every black person in the world apparently lol
@Stew can u answer my question
Why does @Stew stan so hard for Eminem?
When he doesn't like Em's deep, emotional, personal songs he hasn't been through the struggles in life to relate but even if 1 doesn't relate to poverty, growing up in the hood, in a single parent home, divorce, depression, growing up on welfare etc 1 can still like deep music from the artist. Alot of Em's fan base who like his deep music ain't been through the struggles simply just like his deep music but Stew clearly doesn't
With Stew he likes the multi's, flow, rhyme schemes, violant content etc but why Stan so hard just coz u like those things when Jay Z, Nas, Canibus, Royce, Big Pun, Andre 3000, J Cole, Scarface, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and many more u get all that from more and are better at those things
I never got this because someone who likes his deep tracks u can see why they would go hard for him because a song like Beautiful impacted their life helped them over came a struggle, got them through their struggle, inspired them
But what excuse is their to stan so hard when u just like the artist for shit like flow and multis? u can get that from a ninja like Rakim but Stew don't go hard for Rakim like that
Why does @Stew stan so hard for Eminem?
When he doesn't like Em's deep, emotional, personal songs he hasn't been through the struggles in life to relate but even if 1 doesn't relate to poverty, growing up in the hood, in a single parent home, divorce, depression, growing up on welfare etc 1 can still like deep music from the artist. Alot of Em's fan base who like his deep music ain't been through the struggles simply just like his deep music but Stew clearly doesn't
With Stew he likes the multi's, flow, rhyme schemes, violant content etc but why Stan so hard just coz u like those things when Jay Z, Nas, Canibus, Royce, Big Pun, Andre 3000, J Cole, Scarface, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap and many more u get all that from more and are better at those things
I never got this because someone who likes his deep tracks u can see why they would go hard for him because a song like Beautiful impacted their life helped them over came a struggle, got them through their struggle, inspired them
But what excuse is their to stan so hard when u just like the artist for shit like flow and multis? u can get that from a ninja like Rakim but Stew don't go hard for Rakim like that
manofmorehouse
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GunTown;8315656 said:
That's the thing though, everything you claim Eminem is to u, has already been done in hip hop. Deep,thought provoking songs are plentiful in hip hop and all of them don't come from Tupac, believe it or not. All That I Got is You by Ghostface comes to mind, and there are 100's more. Like I said, it's clear he's your favorite. He's not mine. I don't see him as a legend much like I don't see 50 as a legend, and they both sold crazy records when they were hot.
I remember getting caught in the hype of the first white rapper that could really spit. I bought a couple of his albums but they just didn't have any replay value to me. I could only listen to so much of a dude crying about his baby momma and how he wanted to kill her and him dissing pop stars (what black rapper would still have credibility going after Backstreet Boys and Christina Aguilera in a rap??). He has amazing talent. Wish he would've used it for better subject matter. My opinion, of course
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Built 4 cuban linx
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this chick is trying her hardest to get stews attention lol
People might laugh but this Gang has been involved in murders, shootings and i can even show the newspaper article links to prove it
If u are a real bad man your street credentials speak for them self, u known in the street have done it all u can bump Britney Spears or Justin Beieber with no fuks given u notv an insecure person
And the thing is so many nerdy, non street, suburban white males bump Nas music
Everything is not always how the IC portrays the simple fact of the matter is black people have different tastes if u a black person that loves catchy music u gonna be an Em fan and u could care less what some IC blogger thinks
If u are a real bad man your street credentials speak for them self, u known in the street have done it all u can bump Britney Spears or Justin Beieber with no fuks given u notv an insecure person
And the thing is so many nerdy, non street, suburban white males bump Nas music
Everything is not always how the IC portrays the simple fact of the matter is black people have different tastes if u a black person that loves catchy music u gonna be an Em fan and u could care less what some IC blogger thinks
kingblaze84
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GunTown;8315656 said:
I've said this for years, if a Black dude made a lot of the songs Eminem has made, he'd be considered an even bigger legend in the Black community. Eminem can rap for days and his subject matter is actually very deep in a lot of his songs, a lot deeper then I hear from a lot of these mainstream artists that's out now. 2pac had the gift of making versatile songs too, but because Eminem is white, many will hold that against him. I can't even name 5 rappers alive now who can out rap Eminem in a battle, and that's another legendary aspect of him.
Eminem has mastered almost all of the traits needed to be a legendary rapper, classic albums, songs, and a history of vicious battling, almost never losing. How that is not considered legendary is beyond me.
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