Is Emenim overrated????

[Yungin T. Jeezie]

Rappers better than Marshall.

Hov

big

pac

nas

Kool G Rap

Krs-one

Scarface

rakim

big L

Kane

chuck d

ghostface

ice cube

big pun

masta ace

redman

black thought

slick rick

common

q-tip

gza

lupe fiasco

big pun

az

mos def

talib kweli

cannibus

lauryn hill

andre 3000

busta rhymes

Shall I name another 30?

Just retire from typing

 

[gee757]

your the only nigga thats concerned about the race status in hip hop . get off dat

Em is one of the few Top 5 D.O.A's thats on other Top 5 D.O.A's ... Top 5 D.O.A..

Race aint got shit to anything .

If he was black, we'd be calling him the new biggie .

laawd i know biggie is rollin n his grave after that foolish comment u cant compare feminem 2 no black rapper besidez them oreoz d12 that he rollz wit if fem was black he would b BIZARRE!..,,

lol i feel you. but you and i both know cause hes white he can get away with it. you hear all the time about how white boys play borderline gay jokes on each other on the regular. they not gay but they just dont take themselves as serious as we do as black ppl. like we say "no homo" and shit like that cause we not tryin to be associated with homosexuals no disrespect of course.

thats just what white ppl do lol so you pretty much sayin in other words white ppl shouldnt rap at all? lol sounds a lil silly to me. he has more than enough tracks and freestyles that he dont say gay shit. you pretty much tellin me you dont really listen to eminem at all with the exception of the few records with those types of lyrics.

lol wherr did i say white people should stop rappin?....if anythang i said all REDNECKZ should stop rappin & again i dont care if marshall is white that flamin shit has no biznizz n hiphop period...,,,

 

[therealist_]

laawd i know biggie is rollin n his grave after that foolish comment u cant compare feminem 2 no black rapper besidez them oreoz d12 that he rollz wit if fem was black he would b BIZARRE!..,,

/QUOTE]

First off ..

Em > Biggie.

But listen to how hardcore and grimey Biggie was . Em is the same way, both rappers were lyrcially advanced, and they never held they tounge .. I think Biggie set the tone with hardcore, straight vicious rap style, and Em came along and mastered it in his own way.

Theres shit Biggie used to say or rap about that most other nigga's would'nt say cause of the public view.

Em is the same way.. Thats why he's so respected.

 

[therealist_]

lmao .. i fucked up on the qoute thing..

but you still get it

 

[stafresh]

Never fuked wit Em like dat......................homie is absolutely one of the dopest lyricists of all time, I just can't vibe wit his flow. Sometimes he be way off beat.........tryna say to much. Much respect though.

 

[Carlos Bruise-Her]

very overrated

Paul Wall > Marshall Mathers

 

[NevaChange]

Quality is a good album if anything its close to SSLP and TES and When Disater Strikes only had 3 dope songs 2 were singles the other was rhymes galore. The Cool or Food & Liquor are not as good as Em first three

joints either. Encore is trash horrible ur not gonna see me say thats its a good album. Mos Def fell off along time ago

that as a solo artist I dont even check for the guy shit any more, he comes correct on other people shit but as a solo mc he sub par imo and from the jump I never felt he was that nice on the mic.

I feel into the hype of Lupe fisaco from his fan hyping the shit outta him so I copped his first joint it somewhere in my room collecting dust its avg at best.

Although Food & Liquor isn't as strong as Marshall's "first" three efforts, by no means is the album a weedplate. While I understand that it's an album you do not listen to regularly, I still think that's an harsh exaggeration since it's rated by fans and crtics fairly well. And to me, When Disaster Strikes had more than only three dope songs: World Lookin' at Me, Survival Hungry, When Disaster Strikes, So Hardcore, Get High Tonight, Turn It Up, One, Dangerous, Things We Be Doin PT1, and The Body Rock were all good tracks as well, in my opinion. On Mos Def, it's true that he's not as sharp on the mic as he used to be, but I thought Ecstatic was solid.

 

[NevaChange]

laawd i know biggie is rollin n his grave after that foolish comment u cant compare feminem 2 no black rapper besidez them oreoz d12 that he rollz wit if fem was black he would b BIZARRE!..,,
lol wherr did i say white people should stop rappin?....if anythang i said all REDNECKZ should stop rappin & again i dont care if marshall is white that flamin shit has no biznizz n hiphop period...,,,

LOL, well said. If there's one artist I'd say Biggie is similiar to when it comes to content, it's definitely Marshall. They both had repetitive subject matter, lacked songs with any social message, and shared an obsession with rape, pedophilia and homosexuality:

"Niggas press they luck in, they get a butt fucking
Straight up the ass, raw dog with the rash."

--Biggie, The Wickedest

"I was born with a dick in my brain, fucked in the head
My stepfather said that I sucked in the bed..
I want my dick sucked in the shed...
After I fuck you in the butt, get some head"

---Eminem, Insane

^^^Biggie and Eminem were cut from the same cloth.

 

[a.mann]

over-rated

being good at putting words together don't equal being a good lyricist in my book

 

[isayas]

Yo, big-ups to NevaChange for sayin' Kane is better than EM. No one ever mentions that guy.

 

[a.mann]

true words

Ye catoloug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em's

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Def gotta cosign this thread. What I wonder is how come the same skepticism we cast with black rappers we don't put on em. Shit is beyond mind boggling to me. When we talk about other rappers first thing we go is:

"Yo name that nigga's albums son, he ain't got shit."

"Yo that nigga was *insert phyical feature*. He was a fraud"

"So and so had *insert multiple rappers* that he had to battle against at that time. He wasn't even the hardest of his era"

Somebody drop the discography of this man Em and tell me why I should put him top 5 dead or alive. What song of Em's are you STILL bumpin now that ain't Renegade???

How??? Off what??? The dick riding in the industry off Em is killing me.

 

[kj_da_midwest_mobsta]

racism is what all this eminem hate is about gee757 your ignorance is hilarious suck a dick with aids on the tip

1.u said if a black rapper just put words together but wasnt sayin shit he wouldnt sell can anyone say lil wayne

2.He didnt diss black people n general he made a comment about most black girls being money hungry something alot of black guys say themselves not sayin i believe it but ive heard alot of black guys say it

3.Since im half black n half white i guess im one these oreos u speak of lol I look at it from both point of views but ignorant mufuckas like you keep this world the way it is

 

[aneed123]

he is very overrated... niggas like Face LL and Cube get looked over and they put this dude as top 5 GTFOH

 

[isayas]

EM is at least top 15, we got to agree on that.

 

[jvictoria11]

Come on with this bs, dude is one of the GOAT

 

[isayas]

ok heres the issue..... eminem is one of the best rappers ever, arguably the best out now. i look at rap as entertainment. i listen to entertaining shit. yeah he raps about killin and rapin bitches... but thats no different than watching a good movie where bitches happen to be gettin raped and killed lol. he just puts it in rhyme. its really no different than watching a SAW movie or some other horror movie that a lot of ppl like to watch.

yall ppl hatin on eminem are puttin limits on what rappers should rap about. theres a place for all types of mcs. jay dont rap like nas, nas dont rap like biggie, biggie didnt rap like g rap etc etc you get the point. now while i agree the gay shit he says is a lil overboard he obviously isnt gay lol. we all know hes white so he can get away with sayin shit like that.

with that said, subject matter has always been a knock on em. but at least it generates some type of emotion whether you hate it or not but at least you acknowledge that he is lyrically top notch. theres alot of ppl out there that dont give a shit about what common has to say. no disrepect but thats real talk and hes up there lyrically as well.

In the end rap is a form of entertainment. dont knock him for the subject matter to the point where you say hes not one of the best. lets be real, if he decided to rap about the same shit as all the other top dudes in rap with the same technical abilities he displays, alot of yall would be sick right now lol. he decides not to do that though. i mean, how else could he possibly seperate himself from the bunch? by sayin crazy shit which i enjoy (minus the gay shit of course).

personally i think cause hes white some of yall tryna front on him which is understandable but give props where its due.

C/S u said it the best.

 

[makaveli4ever]

Em off skill alone is one of the goat. I believe his first 3 albums were among some of the best albums released in that time period. Nobody is saying he is Nas or Jigga or anyone else. But he deserves respect.

 

[gee757]

LOL, well said. If there's one artist I'd say Biggie is similiar to when it comes to content, it's definitely Marshall. They both had repetitive subject matter, lacked songs with any social message, and shared an obsession with rape, pedophilia and homosexuality:

"Niggas press they luck in, they get a butt fucking

Straight up the ass, raw dog with the rash."

--Biggie, The Wickedest

"I was born with a dick in my brain, fucked in the head

My stepfather said that I sucked in the bed..

I want my dick sucked in the shed...

After I fuck you in the butt, get some head"

---Eminem, Insane

^^^Biggie and Eminem were cut from the same cloth.

i c wat ya sayin i still will neva understand when biggie said a gurl look'd so good that he would suck her daddyz dicck now that does sound like sum flamin shit that redneck feminem would say 2...,,,

 

[gee757]

racism is what all this eminem hate is about gee757 your ignorance is hilarious suck a dick with aids on the tip

1.u said if a black rapper just put words together but wasnt sayin shit he wouldnt sell can anyone say lil wayne

2.He didnt diss black people n general he made a comment about most black girls being money hungry something alot of black guys say themselves not sayin i believe it but ive heard alot of black guys say it

3.Since im half black n half white i guess im one these oreos u speak of lol I look at it from both point of views but ignorant mufuckas like you keep this world the way it is