Is Emenim overrated????

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I'm with NevaChange, all those mentioned are better than Eminem, I would also mention other legends like LL Cool J, DMX, Fresh Prince, and Run-DMC
 
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Tha Originator;82177 said:
Smh this goes to show u ain't gotta rap about nothin jus a bunch if bullshit and ur considered the goat??? Gtfoh em ain't shit in my book Idc if can eat up my fav rappers in a song his album catalouge ain't even good

REAL SPIT!...these wiggerz & oreoz talkin about that redneck is nyce is NUTTZ this white boy dont b rappin about shit 99.9% of da time all he doez is pull wordz that rime 2gether outta his azz & dont b sayin shit!...if a black rapper would cum corny like that shady wigger does 99.9% of da time they would get lauf'd @ & they would sell as much as that oreo BIZARRE,,,,...i just smh @ these oreoz that b praisin that redneck talkin about hez 1 of da greatz that shit is just sickenin how these oreoz b praisin a redneck like that cuz if a black country singer made songz dissin white people their career would b OVA but when da white boy dissez blackz rappin he getz a PASS?...SMH
 
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kingblaze84;80652 said:
Eminem is UNDERRATED....in the IC at least. Em has crazy wordplay, his flow is among the best in hip-hop history, and while his subject matter is rather grotesque most of the time, so is this crazy thing we call life. Life is fucked up, so Eminem's lyrics are going to be fucked up. It is what it is....Eminem is a top 4 rapper of all time as far as I'm concerned.

realest shit i ever quote
 
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NevaChange;82767 said:
Rappers better than Marshall.

Hov

big

pac

nas

Kool G Rap

Krs-one

Scarface

rakim

big L

Kane

chuck d

ghostface

ice cube

big pun

masta ace

redman

black thought

slick rick

common

q-tip

gza

lupe fiasco

big pun

az

mos def

talib kweli

cannibus

lauryn hill

andre 3000

busta rhymes

Shall I name another 30?

Busta??? Lauryn Hill??? i lol'd

Lyrically Em would smash each and every one...and I bet you at least half on that list would say he one of the greatest ever...
 
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rooster_cogburn;83027 said:
Busta??? Lauryn Hill??? i lol'd

Lyrically Em would smash each and every one...and I bet you at least half on that list would say he one of the greatest ever...

that shit wouldnt surprize me da white man runz da rap industry so da black INDUSTRY rapperz have no choice but 2 kiss da redneckz azz & let him diss black people on record rappin or they will lose they white fanbase fa speakin against da wigger gaaawd feimnem!...,,
 
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NevaChange;82767 said:
Rappers better than Marshall.

Hov

big

pac

nas

Kool G Rap

Krs-one

Scarface

rakim

big L

Kane

chuck d

ghostface

ice cube

big pun

masta ace

redman

black thought

slick rick

common

q-tip

gza

lupe fiasco

big pun

az

mos def

talib kweli

cannibus

lauryn hill

andre 3000

busta rhymes

Shall I name another 30?

Hov, big and nas i could agree on. the rest never.
 
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da people on nevachangez list all have better shit then feminem that black people actually listen 2 only a wigger or a oreo would think otherwise!,,,,y u think fem wasnt on da BLACK MTV CHANNEL MTVJAMZ TOP 10 HOTTEST MCZ LIST?..cuz BLACK PEOPLE dont listen 2 that white devil musik feminem b makin fa da wiggerz & oreoz!...
 
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NevaChange;82767 said:
Rappers better than Marshall.

Hov

big

pac

nas

Kool G Rap

Krs-one

Scarface

rakim

big L

Kane

chuck d

ghostface

ice cube

big pun

masta ace

redman

black thought

slick rick

common

q-tip

gza

lupe fiasco

big pun

az

mos def

talib kweli

cannibus

lauryn hill

andre 3000

busta rhymes

Shall I name another 30?

Put Em on a track with each of these rappers, and i bet he'd go harder 3/4's of them .
 
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gee757;83113 said:
da people on nevachangez list all have better shit then feminem that black people actually listen 2 only a wigger or a oreo would think otherwise!,,,,y u think fem wasnt on da BLACK MTV CHANNEL MTVJAMZ TOP 10 HOTTEST MCZ LIST?..cuz BLACK PEOPLE dont listen 2 that white devil musik feminem b makin fa da wiggerz & oreoz!...

Co-sign. I don't know why, but some people in the IC seem to be so easily impressed by someone who uses a bunch on multis but ultimately says nothing. Anyone can sound good saying some "Osoma, obama, Dahmer, lama" bullshit. I've just never seen anything special about a clown rapper who hasn't been able to make a hot album for eight years and is rapping about the same shit at 36 as he did at 26. I don't believe the hype.
 
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ok heres the issue..... eminem is one of the best rappers ever, arguably the best out now. i look at rap as entertainment. i listen to entertaining shit. yeah he raps about killin and rapin bitches... but thats no different than watching a good movie where bitches happen to be gettin raped and killed lol. he just puts it in rhyme. its really no different than watching a SAW movie or some other horror movie that a lot of ppl like to watch.

yall ppl hatin on eminem are puttin limits on what rappers should rap about. theres a place for all types of mcs. jay dont rap like nas, nas dont rap like biggie, biggie didnt rap like g rap etc etc you get the point. now while i agree the gay shit he says is a lil overboard he obviously isnt gay lol. we all know hes white so he can get away with sayin shit like that.

with that said, subject matter has always been a knock on em. but at least it generates some type of emotion whether you hate it or not but at least you acknowledge that he is lyrically top notch. theres alot of ppl out there that dont give a shit about what common has to say. no disrepect but thats real talk and hes up there lyrically as well.

In the end rap is a form of entertainment. dont knock him for the subject matter to the point where you say hes not one of the best. lets be real, if he decided to rap about the same shit as all the other top dudes in rap with the same technical abilities he displays, alot of yall would be sick right now lol. he decides not to do that though. i mean, how else could he possibly seperate himself from the bunch? by sayin crazy shit which i enjoy (minus the gay shit of course).

personally i think cause hes white some of yall tryna front on him which is understandable but give props where its due.
 
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First of all, i don't think that the subject in hip hop songs always have to be serious. If i wanna listen to humoristic rap i prefer listening to bizarre than Em. Personally I never listen to Em, an i certainly couldn't listen to a whole album of him. I think he's the rapper with the MOST ANNOYING VOICE EVER. I admit that he's good lyrically good but that's just not enough...
 
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NevaChange;82767 said:
Rappers better than Marshall.

Hov

big

pac

nas

Kool G Rap

Krs-one

Scarface

rakim

big L

Kane

chuck d

ghostface

ice cube

big pun

masta ace

redman

black thought

slick rick

common

q-tip

gza

lupe fiasco

big pun

az

mos def

talib kweli

cannibus

lauryn hill

andre 3000

busta rhymes

Shall I name another 30?

Mos Def, Talib Keweli, Lauryn Hill, Busta Rhymes and Lupe Fiasco are no where near Em level imo. The rest is straight.

Mos hasnt made a good album since black on both sides, both of Lupe Joints are weedplates, Busta and Talib never made an album on the level of Em first 3 joints. Lauryn Hill only made 1 album she doesnt qualify for any status with little material. I never saw anthing special with Mos or Lupe both overrated as fuck.
 
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Eminem is in no man's land when it comes to being overrated.

Limited subject matter. Check!

Sorry ass gimmicks. Check!

A suspect catalog. Check!

yet people are quick to call this cowardly white buffoon an all-time great? lol

calling this guy the greatest of all time is a direct slap in the face to Hip Hop.
 
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Word Play, Creativity and Entertainment no. He does however make some horrid songs but his vocals are always dope. His beats are nahhhhhh. he not overrated cause many can't come up with the concepts and lyric's he can you.
 
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nujerz84;83683 said:
Mos Def, Talib Keweli, Lauryn Hill, Busta Rhymes and Lupe Fiasco are no where near Em level imo. The rest is straight.
Mos hasnt made a good album since black on both sides, both of Lupe Joints are weedplates, Busta and Talib never made an album on the level of Em first 3 joints. Lauryn Hill only made 1 album she doesnt qualify for any status with little material. I never saw anthing special with Mos or Lupe both overrated as fuck.

ROFL. Food & Liquor might not be a classic, but it's a million times better than that half-assed, monotonous, overhyped heap of trash Relapse. Marshall even took a five year break for that bitch, and the shit was still weak as fuck. Corny accents, redundant topics, and puerile shots at the same old celebrities is what Marshall is now famous for. Neither one of Lupe's albums are as bad as Encore either, which was easily the wackest piece of shit released last decade with all those fart noises and what not. If you ever want the definition of a "weedplate," look no further than the catastrophe Encore. Mos hasn't made a classic album since Black On Both Sides, but The Ecstatic was better than Relapse, to me. Marshall still hasnt delivered a good since The Eminem Show, which was released eight years ago. How can dudes be calling this clown the GOAT, when he fell the fuck off all the way back in 2002 and hasn't been able to craft a hot allbum since? He's overrated, bottom line. Also, Quality from Talib Kweli and When Disaster Strikes are all as good as the white boy's so-called first three albums, in my opinion.
 
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NevaChange;84071 said:
ROFL. Food & Liquor might not be a classic, but it's a million times better than that half-assed, monotonous, overhyped heap of trash Relapse. Marshall even took a five year break for that bitch, and the shit was still weak as fuck. Corny accents, redundant topics, and puerile shots at the same old celebrities is what Marshall is now famous for. Neither one of Lupe's albums are as bad as Encore either, which was easily the wackest piece of shit released last decade with all those fart noises and what not. If you ever want the definition of a "weedplate," look no further than the catastrophe Encore. Mos hasn't made a classic album since Black On Both Sides, but The Ecstatic was better than Relapse, to me. Marshall still hasnt delivered a good since The Eminem Show, which was released eight years ago. How can dudes be calling this clown the GOAT, when he fell the fuck off all the way back in 2002 and hasn't been able to craft a hot allbum since? He's overrated, bottom line. Also, Quality from Talib Kweli and When Disaster Strikes are all as good as the white boy's so-called first three albums, in my opinion.

Quality is a good album if anything its close to SSLP and TES and When Disater Strikes only had 3 dope songs 2 were singles the other was rhymes galore. The Cool or Food & Liquor are not as good as Em first three
joints either. Encore is trash horrible ur not gonna see me say thats its a good album. Mos Def fell off along time ago
that as a solo artist I dont even check for the guy shit any more, he comes correct on other people shit but as a solo mc he sub par imo and from the jump I never felt he was that nice on the mic.
I feel into the hype of Lupe fisaco from his fan hyping the shit outta him so I copped his first joint it somewhere in my room collecting dust its avg at best.
 
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NevaChange;83275 said:
Co-sign. I don't know why, but some people in the IC seem to be so easily impressed by someone who uses a bunch on multis but ultimately says nothing. Anyone can sound good saying some "Osoma, obama, Dahmer, lama" bullshit. I've just never seen anything special about a clown rapper who hasn't been able to make a hot album for eight years and is rapping about the same shit at 36 as he did at 26. I don't believe the hype.

da shit aint fair da white boy can fart on a record & these brainwash'd wiggerz & oreoz will say da redneck fem kill'd that shit & hez da goat & all da otha dumb shit,,,but let sum black rapper spit that same "Osoma, obama, Dahmer, lama" bs they is gonna get lauf'd @ & clown'd i swear da shit aint rite!..
 
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yroholla;83530 said:
ok heres the issue..... eminem is one of the best rappers ever, arguably the best out now. i look at rap as entertainment. i listen to entertaining shit. yeah he raps about killin and rapin bitches... but thats no different than watching a good movie where bitches happen to be gettin raped and killed lol. he just puts it in rhyme. its really no different than watching a SAW movie or some other horror movie that a lot of ppl like to watch.

yall ppl hatin on eminem are puttin limits on what rappers should rap about. theres a place for all types of mcs. jay dont rap like nas, nas dont rap like biggie, biggie didnt rap like g rap etc etc you get the point. now while i agree the gay shit he says is a lil overboard he obviously isnt gay lol. we all know hes white so he can get away with sayin shit like that.

with that said, subject matter has always been a knock on em. but at least it generates some type of emotion whether you hate it or not but at least you acknowledge that he is lyrically top notch. theres alot of ppl out there that dont give a shit about what common has to say. no disrepect but thats real talk and hes up there lyrically as well.

In the end rap is a form of entertainment. dont knock him for the subject matter to the point where you say hes not one of the best. lets be real, if he decided to rap about the same shit as all the other top dudes in rap with the same technical abilities he displays, alot of yall would be sick right now lol. he decides not to do that though. i mean, how else could he possibly seperate himself from the bunch? by sayin crazy shit which i enjoy (minus the gay shit of course).

personally i think cause hes white some of yall tryna front on him which is understandable but give props where its due.

plz im tired of da that bs xcuse sayin itz da white boy so he can get away wit sayin & doin faggggot shit....FUUK THAT i dont care if feminem was purple that gay shit aint rite & that shit has no biznizz n hiphop,,,,
 
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gee757;84469 said:
plz im tired of da that bs xcuse sayin itz da white boy so he can get away wit sayin & doin faggggot shit....FUUK THAT i dont care if feminem was purple that gay shit aint rite & that shit has no biznizz n hiphop,,,,

your the only nigga thats concerned about the race status in hip hop . get off dat

Em is one of the few Top 5 D.O.A's thats on other Top 5 D.O.A's ... Top 5 D.O.A..

Race aint got shit to anything .

If he was black, we'd be calling him the new biggie .
 
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gee757;84469 said:
plz im tired of da that bs xcuse sayin itz da white boy so he can get away wit sayin & doin faggggot shit....FUUK THAT i dont care if feminem was purple that gay shit aint rite & that shit has no biznizz n hiphop,,,,

lol i feel you. but you and i both know cause hes white he can get away with it. you hear all the time about how white boys play borderline gay jokes on each other on the regular. they not gay but they just dont take themselves as serious as we do as black ppl. like we say "no homo" and shit like that cause we not tryin to be associated with homosexuals no disrespect of course.

thats just what white ppl do lol so you pretty much sayin in other words white ppl shouldnt rap at all? lol sounds a lil silly to me. he has more than enough tracks and freestyles that he dont say gay shit. you pretty much tellin me you dont really listen to eminem at all with the exception of the few records with those types of lyrics.
 
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