Is A Woman Who Dont Want Kids A Deal Breaker?

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LPast;9518386 said:
Side note: Can you be an alpha male and not want kids? Nah. Not that I adhere to that, but y'all talk about that often on here.

I'm going to say this. In this day and age most people that don't want kids live a purposeless life. They see children as people that hold them back, when in essence, children(and. wives) are usually a source of motivation.

I think you are more likely to be successful with kids than without them.

I think the bolded is a very valid question.

I would say no, you can't be an alpha male and not want kids.
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;9518321 said:
The older I get, the more I start to think that's just some shit they tell you you're supposed to do as women. Have a family...have some kids.

I really think my sole purpose is to be rich, and that's it.

Ob, Nothing in this universe was created to "be rich and that's it".

Nothing was created to make money.
 
NoCompetition;9519269 said:
zzombie;9519254 said:
NoCompetition;9519232 said:
zzombie;9519140 said:
I hope the same people who don't want kids also don't advocate for Healthcare and other governmental benefits.

Healthcare for me? Benefits for me? Im worried about my life thats my concern. Thats what im living. What do i care about "legacies" and whatever when Im gone? uh...i'll be gone. The world can be as crazy as it wants to then not my concern.

I'll just name one thing. Babymama(s) I dont gotta worry about court or child support or jail for not paying. Or what she's doing. Or structuring my schedule. None of that drama. We havent even got into the financial side and all that.

If some think a woman that doesnt want kids is a deal breaker, fine. she aint for you then move along. Whats the extra for? None of that is relevant.

You can want whatever you want but it's future generations that will have to pay for it....I mean seriously who do you think is going to pay all this debt??? It's all relevant just because you can live with no fucks given doesn't mean we all will.

People like you deserve none of the benefits of society because you don't care about it's future you shouldn't even be allowed to vote

Dude I noticed the economy does better and there is less debt in Democratic Presidencies. The last balanced budget/ surplus was Clinton. The debt ballooned with Bush. Knowing this, I did my part but the world is a crazy place. And chooses to go in other directions. Often common sense gets thrown out the window. Not my fault. But I also dont trust it or expect any better. The next person chooses things a certain way then finds themselves in a mess. I try to avoid the mess.

I pay taxes, work and all that. But Im realistic and go with what makes sense to me. And I also go with what seems right for me. Long as I pay taxes I have a share in the benefits. I pay for schools too and dont complain because its for the whole community. I dont trust those schools with my unborn kids though.

I don't see the relevancy of the first paragraph

nothing is wrong with doing what makes sense to you but you must realize that how you see things once put into practice is actually a detriment to society.... yeah if you pay taxes you deserve to enjoy some of the benefits but you are doing disproportionately to your contribution.
 
zzombie;9519371 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;9519336 said:
I'm a dope ass auntie and this is important for children to have.

A REALLY good auntie would give her nieces and nephews some cousins

No, I provide something they wouldn't get otherwise, especially since most of my nieces and nephews are teenagers now. People don't realize how beneficial it is for children to have childless adults around throughout life who love them. It's different than with parents. We don't carry the stress and exhaustion of another human's basic maintenance. That alone, leaves time and energy to actually have interactions with them as individuals in a way that they don't experience from other aunts/uncles, and definitely not from their own parents. It's a bond that more closely resembles a genuine friendship than what they can expect from other adults. So for me, I can see how much deeper and richer my relationship is with my nieces and nephews than it would probably be if they were my own kids.
 
NeighborhoodNomad. ;9519382 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;9518321 said:
The older I get, the more I start to think that's just some shit they tell you you're supposed to do as women. Have a family...have some kids.

I really think my sole purpose is to be rich, and that's it.

Ob, Nothing in this universe was created to "be rich and that's it".

Nothing was created to make money.

Well nah, I'm gonna do some shit in between, of course. But that's the overarching purpose.
 
Nope not even close to being a deal breaker. I don't want children. I like not being responsible to anyone but myself. I don't want to change diapers, go school shopping, sit in on parent-teacher conferences or any of that stuff. I'm too selfish. I have a niece..I'll spoil her and send her back to my brother.

My goals for life are to work in my community, practice law, travel and enjoy life. That's it.
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;9519409 said:
zzombie;9519371 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;9519336 said:
I'm a dope ass auntie and this is important for children to have.

A REALLY good auntie would give her nieces and nephews some cousins

No, I provide something they wouldn't get otherwise, especially since most of my nieces and nephews are teenagers now. People don't realize how beneficial it is for children to have childless adults around throughout life who love them. It's different than with parents. We don't carry the stress and exhaustion of another human's basic maintenance. That alone, leaves time and energy to actually have interactions with them as individuals in a way that they don't experience from other aunts/uncles, and definitely not from their own parents. It's a bond that more closely resembles a genuine friendship than what they can expect from other adults. So for me, I can see how much deeper and richer my relationship is with my nieces and nephews than it would probably be if they were my own kids.

YEAH..... I BET THEY RATHER HAVE COUSINS because most children won't be sharing their deepest secrets and emotions with their aunts, i mean seriously if i have beef with the neighborhood bully i can't go get my aunt. I mean no matter how you try are pretty things up at the end of the day if you are from another generation you won't be able to relate to your nephews the same way a cousin could and even if you are a little younger that the stereotypical aunt the dynamic is just not the same.

I mean the first time your nephews get some pussy OR the first time he gets in a 3 some you think he can come and brag to you the same way he could a cousin??? even an older cousin he might do that shit with but an AUNT??? NO FUCKING WAY.
 
thegreatunknown;9519423 said:
Nope not even close to being a deal breaker. I don't want children. I like not being responsible to anyone but myself. I don't want to change diapers, go school shopping, sit in on parent-teacher conferences or any of that stuff. I'm too selfish. I have a niece..I'll spoil her and send her back to my brother.

My goals for life are to work in my community, practice law, travel and enjoy life. That's it.

Now this guy knows he's selfish and admits it
 
thegreatunknown;9519423 said:
Nope not even close to being a deal breaker. I don't want children. I like not being responsible to anyone but myself. I don't want to change diapers, go school shopping, sit in on parent-teacher conferences or any of that stuff. I'm too selfish. I have a niece..I'll spoil her and send her back to my brother.

My goals for life are to work in my community, practice law, travel and enjoy life. That's it.

We are all selfish to a certain degree
 
obnoxiouslyfresh;9519418 said:
NeighborhoodNomad. ;9519382 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;9518321 said:
The older I get, the more I start to think that's just some shit they tell you you're supposed to do as women. Have a family...have some kids.

I really think my sole purpose is to be rich, and that's it.

Ob, Nothing in this universe was created to "be rich and that's it".

Nothing was created to make money.

Well nah, I'm gonna do some shit in between, of course. But that's the overarching purpose.

Then wouldn't everything in between be the purpose and the money would maybe be a means of you living that purpose?
 
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Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.
 
dallas' 4 eva;9519516 said:
Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.

you are kind of right.... but i would say that jamaican culture also celebrates individualism but we don't really want to sacrifice certain i guess you could call it "perspective" on what should be and there tends to be a real backlash against things we think should not be

and one of those perspectives we think should be is : gal fi get fuck and gal fi breed and bring fourth I man pickney.
 
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dallas' 4 eva;9519516 said:
Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.

Exactly, America is a land filled with robots who get reprogrammed every few years.

The opposing ideology is more wrong than not, because if practiced on a wide scale, the human species would become extinct.
 
zzombie;9519530 said:
dallas' 4 eva;9519516 said:
Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.

you are kind of right.... but i would say that jamaican culture also celebrates individualism but we don't really want to sacrifice certain i guess you could call it "perspective" on what should be and there tends to be a real backlash against things we think should not be

and one of those perspectives we think should be is : gal fi get fuck and gal fi breed and bring fourth I man pickney.

America is just different bro, it sounds insane to you but man my parents preached to me from a young age don't have kids or get married unless you are absolutely sure you want them. It's just a different set of values.

Hell we live in a country where you are encouraged to push your kids out at 18-21 and let them struggle(mainly to put them into debt), I was always shocked to see foreign families all live in the same houses for generations.... hell my friend from Ethiopia still lives with his parents and has no intention to leave anytime soon and he is damn near 30 with a 70k a year job, and his parents actually don't mind.... hell I think they prefer it that way shit was just wild to me.
 
dallas' 4 eva;9519605 said:
zzombie;9519530 said:
dallas' 4 eva;9519516 said:
Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.

you are kind of right.... but i would say that jamaican culture also celebrates individualism but we don't really want to sacrifice certain i guess you could call it "perspective" on what should be and there tends to be a real backlash against things we think should not be

and one of those perspectives we think should be is : gal fi get fuck and gal fi breed and bring fourth I man pickney.

America is just different bro, it sounds insane to you but man my parents preached to me from a young age don't have kids or get married unless you are absolutely sure you want them. It's just a different set of values.

Hell we live in a country where you are encouraged to push your kids out at 18-21 and let them struggle(mainly to put them into debt), I was always shocked to see foreign families all live in the same houses for generations.... hell my friend from Ethiopia still lives with his parents and has no intention to leave anytime soon and he is damn near 30 with a 70k a year job, and his parents actually don't mind.... hell I think they prefer it that way shit was just wild to me.

well then i guess your are right because certain things i know americans do when it comes to family relations just do not settle well with me and i've been here for over 10 years
 
dallas' 4 eva;9519605 said:
zzombie;9519530 said:
dallas' 4 eva;9519516 said:
Zombies viewpoint sounds strange to yall because he does not come from a culture that celebrates false individualism like America, his culture is collectivist. That is why legacies and children mean so much to him. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck what they add to or how they benefit society as a whole, go to China or Japan or South America with that attitude and you would be an unfit outcast at best. Neither ideology is wrong, it's just different viewpoints.

you are kind of right.... but i would say that jamaican culture also celebrates individualism but we don't really want to sacrifice certain i guess you could call it "perspective" on what should be and there tends to be a real backlash against things we think should not be

and one of those perspectives we think should be is : gal fi get fuck and gal fi breed and bring fourth I man pickney.

America is just different bro, it sounds insane to you but man my parents preached to me from a young age don't have kids or get married unless you are absolutely sure you want them. It's just a different set of values.

Hell we live in a country where you are encouraged to push your kids out at 18-21 and let them struggle(mainly to put them into debt), I was always shocked to see foreign families all live in the same houses for generations.... hell my friend from Ethiopia still lives with his parents and has no intention to leave anytime soon and he is damn near 30 with a 70k a year job, and his parents actually don't mind.... hell I think they prefer it that way shit was just wild to me.

I know about two people that's like that. One is a white female coworker that has a degree & stays at home. Now she doesn't make 70k because she only has a interior designer degree but a degree nonetheless. My brother gotta home boy that hangs out with this rich white dude that has a degree somewhere in the medical field. He stays at home too
 

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