Irv Gotti reveals truth about Jay-Z & X, distrubution deal and much more (45 min)

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good shit...that MURDER INC/RAPALOT/DEATHROW shit wouldve been sumthang special FUK WOODFace fa SNITCHin!
 
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CirocObama;3484215 said:
He didn't say that Jay-Z won he said that DMX felt Jay-Z did a snake move which is why he didn't like him. Something then happened backstage at a show somewhere and i don't wanna guess what but i think X checked Jay.

LOL @ my man X having 2 people watching him to steer him in the right direction, basically like 2 parole officers.

He said that, but then right before Sway asked him the next question, he said Jay won. He said it so subtle you probably wouldn't catch it.
 
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soul rattler;3484563 said:
He said that, but then right before Sway asked him the next question, he said Jay won. He said it so subtle you probably wouldn't catch it.

Yeah i caught it now but it still wasn't the reason why DMX didn't like Jay, it was because of the reason i explained. But seems like Jay got checked though. Maybe Jay won maybe he didn't who knows, even what Irv says isn't facts it's just his opinion.

His impression of Lyor was golden tho lol. Lyor a jew-nigga huh.
 
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CirocObama;3484339 said:
I'm a fan of Jay-Z and X but i honestly believe that dude is hella insecure. It probably comes from his childhood being considered ugly and whatnot. It sounds harsh but i honestly believe that. It's probably why he has so many weird and awkward moments.

I respect that about Jay. He's obviously a introvert personality so him speaking his innermost thoughts isn't a bad thing. Better him actually taking himself and his craft THAT serious than "Irv I don't give a fuck bout this rap shit just make sure you cut the check".

People keep calling Jay insecure but he's been in this industry for 15+ years. If the nigga was weak he would've bailed out a long time ago. It's ain't like he doesn't have the money to stay retired.
 
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GOOD DROP MY G!

Been waiting to hear from dude..its been like 4 years since he spoke on anything. Dropped a lot of jewelz and he 100% on the Def Jam issue. Thats why Jeezy been having problems with Def Jam, theres no boss over there, no one to guide niggas on what to do and what not to do. Gotti deserves that spot over here.Real Talk!
 
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CirocObama;3484605 said:
Yeah i caught it now but it still wasn't the reason why DMX didn't like Jay, it was because of the reason i explained. But seems like Jay got checked though. Maybe Jay won maybe he didn't who knows, even what Irv says isn't facts it's just his opinion.

His impression of Lyor was golden tho lol. Lyor a jew-nigga huh.

Nah that's after the fact. It's not that X and Jay don't like each other, they're just natural rivals so it's going to instantly be standoffish. That's how Jay-Z is with people on a certain level talent-wise. Look at Cam, look at 50. Jay will do business with them to an extent, but he knows they're competition. X even said recently he doesn't hate Jay. Cam said the same thing now that I think about it lol
 
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Great drop...bout to listen..

But on a s/sn:

You can see why Jay acts the way he does. I mean when soo many nggas are interesting/newsworthy JUST because your name is involved..thats gon inflate your ego just a bit.
 
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soul rattler;3484652 said:
Nah that's after the fact. It's not that X and Jay don't like each other, they're just natural rivals so it's going to instantly be standoffish. That's how Jay-Z is with people on a certain level talent-wise. Look at Cam, look at 50. Jay will do business with them to an extent, but he knows they're competition. X even said recently he doesn't hate Jay. Cam said the same thing now that I think about it lol

No the issue started because X felt Jay-Z did some snake shit in that battle. Were they rivals? Yes but that wasn't the reason why X didn't like him, if that was the case he would've hated more artists. Part of it was rivalry and the other part was that X felt Jay did some sucka shit, that was what came out of Irv's own mouth. The battle happened in 1993 so they weren't even close to being rivals like that at the time and the song Time To Build was recorded in 1995 so again it started with that battle.
 
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damn @ that gotti/prince/knight situation

the feds didn't want that shit to happened
 
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beerisgood4ya;3484435 said:
theres probably alot of truth to what your saying. Thats probably why hes scared to battle alot of rappers, its like he doesnt have that confident aggression in him that other rappers has. Jay says hes jordan, but jordan was a warrior, i dont look at jay like a warrior. Jay seems to have a subtle passive confidence, cocky but non confrontational.

Yall are speaking alot of truth right here. I always had this theory that there are 2 Jay-z's. There is Bragger Jay and there is Humble,Introspective Jay. Its seems like after RD you got alot of Bragger Jay. (See imaginary Player). He had his moments where the introspective\humble side came out but the aggressive I'm the shit attitude was more prevalent. After Ether however it seemed the shy, humble, introspective Jay was shown alot more in the forefront. He may have masked it behind his whole "grown man" and "I'm rich " movement he had going on but after Ether he personality seemed to change. How do some of yall see it?
 
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Good interview, great job-interview.

You can tell Irv has a passion for the culture, he would have been on top of the game if Shady/Aftermath/G-unit didn't turn the public against him.

The last thng these greedy devils in suits want is a rap-union and rappers controling the distribution.....they won't allow us to cut them out completely.
 
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why is it that everybody who speaks on situations they've had with jay unintentially end up exposing how he catches feelings like no other ?
 
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BoYBe$T;3484920 said:
why is it that everybody who speaks on situations they've had with jay unintentially end up exposing how he catches feelings like no other ?

How is he catching feelings when he never speaks about shit, whenever you hear of beef with Jay it's always from other people. He just keeps his mouth shut and let them niggas play themselves (Cam, Jim Jones, Game,etc).
 
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BoYBe$T;3484920 said:
why is it that everybody who speaks on situations they've had with jay unintentially end up exposing how he catches feelings like no other ?

Going by what Irv said, all them niggas caught feelings...Irv himself
 
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One thing i loved about the old days was that rappers used to have a crew that all represented one look, one idea and whatnot. All the way from Dogg Pound, to Ruff Ryders, Wu-Tang and whatnot. Wu had the whole 5% thing goin' and everybody had that crazy, street nigga look with the fronts, crazy hair-styles, bandanas and shit, Dogg Pound represented dogs that dogged bitches, smoked weed to mark their territory (like dogs usually do by peeing) and etc. Like i just loved that whole shit not only from these guys but from a few others too.
 
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Irven was always that nigga

I used to wonder at his production skills with Aurelius in '01/'02
 
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