Iraqi troops suffer mass slaughter one mile from Baghdad: the general ISIS Chat thread

[janklow]

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it

however, per your argument on Iraq, if the government is stable, who cares?

 

[kingblaze84]

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it

however, per your argument on Iraq, if the government is stable, who cares?

My point is that ISIS and Saudi Arabia aren't much different from each other, so therefore America needs to mind its own business in the region. Saudi Arabia has terrorist supporters, as ISIS has terrorist supporters, so I see no reason for America to be bombing ISIS all the time while leaving Saudi Arabia alone.

If America IS SERIOUS about degrading and destroying ISIS, it would also turn its guns and bombs on Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9/11 hijackers and Al-Qaeda financiers. But America isn't serious about getting rid of ISIS, so this whole campaign America is doing is a waste of time. This is my main point. ISIS is attacking its neighbors in a more radical fashion, true, but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs there are actively funding ISIS, ask Joe Biden.

 

[zombie]

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it

however, per your argument on Iraq, if the government is stable, who cares?

My point is that ISIS and Saudi Arabia aren't much different from each other, so therefore America needs to mind its own business in the region. Saudi Arabia has terrorist supporters, as ISIS has terrorist supporters, so I see no reason for America to be bombing ISIS all the time while leaving Saudi Arabia alone.

If America IS SERIOUS about degrading and destroying ISIS, it would also turn its guns and bombs on Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9/11 hijackers and Al-Qaeda financiers. But America isn't serious about getting rid of ISIS, so this whole campaign America is doing is a waste of time. This is my main point. ISIS is attacking its neighbors in a more radical fashion, true, but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs there are actively funding ISIS, ask Joe Biden.

Horrible post.

saudi arabia is nothing like isis for one thing saudi arabia is a real country, saudi arabia has elements in it's ruling class that support terrorism but the state itself is not focused on holy war that is a big difference. what we should do is assassinate certain people in saudi arabia not bomb them war on saudi arabia would cause world wide economy trouble. saudi arabia also is not seeking to invade other nations and bring them into a caliphate. you are right about american wasting it's time bombing isis we need to put boots on the ground and retake control of the whole fucking nation.

 

[kingblaze84]

The city that's right in front of Baghdad is 85 percent controlled by ISIS now. Even I didn't think the American air strikes would end up being this embarrassing
http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-forces-critical-juncture-anbar-teeters-220039670.html

"We can say that 85 percent of Anbar is under IS control," Faleh al-Issawi, the deputy head of Anbar provincial council, told AFP.

He argued that a ground intervention by US troops was the only measure that could rescue Ramadi and the rest of the province.



"If the situation continues to evolve in the same direction and foreign ground forces don't intervene within the next 10 days, the next battle will be on Baghdad's doorstep," Issawi said.



One captain told AFP last week his entire battalion had withdrawn from a base in Albu Eitha, just east of Ramadi, after spending days holed up in the compound with little food and water.

"We are in Tharthar now, the withdrawal went smoothly but I don't know what we can do from here.... Morale is low among the soldiers," he said.

--LOL what a joke!!!

 

[kingblaze84]

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it

however, per your argument on Iraq, if the government is stable, who cares?

My point is that ISIS and Saudi Arabia aren't much different from each other, so therefore America needs to mind its own business in the region. Saudi Arabia has terrorist supporters, as ISIS has terrorist supporters, so I see no reason for America to be bombing ISIS all the time while leaving Saudi Arabia alone.

If America IS SERIOUS about degrading and destroying ISIS, it would also turn its guns and bombs on Saudi Arabia, home of most of the 9/11 hijackers and Al-Qaeda financiers. But America isn't serious about getting rid of ISIS, so this whole campaign America is doing is a waste of time. This is my main point. ISIS is attacking its neighbors in a more radical fashion, true, but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs there are actively funding ISIS, ask Joe Biden.

saudi arabia is nothing like isis for one thing saudi arabia is a real country, saudi arabia has elements in it's ruling class that support terrorism but the state itself is not focused on holy war that is a big difference. what we should do is assassinate certain people in saudi arabia not bomb them war on saudi arabia would cause world wide economy trouble. saudi arabia also is not seeking to invade other nations and bring them into a caliphate. you are right about american wasting it's time bombing isis we need to put boots on the ground and retake control of the whole fucking nation.

As much as I disagree with your policy regarding Iraq, I at least give you credit for having a vague but concrete plan to take on ISIS. At this point, how many American boots would you put on the ground? Rumor has it ISIS has over 200K fighters plus at this point, with more on the way.

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

 

[kingblaze84]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

We all agree ISIS is worse but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs still fund ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. So again, any war against ISIS is a waste of time without the head of the snake, Saudis, being addressed. Assassinating Saudi princes would make the problem worse. The problem is widespread and reaches into the general population in Saudi Arabia. The 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT over FULL PARAGRAPHS when it came to the Saudis, hmm I wonder why. The whole region is a mess, and "destroying" ISIS will be meaningless anyway because the SAUDIS and many of their friends in Turkey and Qatar will just fund another group that wants to take out Assad and counter the Shiites of the region. America is best sitting this one out, like China and other large nations.

 

[kingblaze84]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7xQ2HxD3nUM

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

We all agree ISIS is worse but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs still fund ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. So again, any war against ISIS is a waste of time without the head of the snake, Saudis, being addressed. Assassinating Saudi princes would make the problem worse. The 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT over FULL PARAGRAPHS when it came to the Saudis, hmm I wonder why. The whole region is a mess, and "destroying" ISIS will be meaningless anyway because the SAUDIS and many of their friends in Turkey and Qatar will just fund another group that wants to take out Assad and counter the Shiites of the region. America is best sitting this one out, like China and other large nations.

China???? lol america will only be sitting this out for so long eventually we will have to fix the problem we caused by removing saddam. all the supporters of isis need to either be killed or their money frozen better yet both.

assassinating who we need to will make it worse how??? if they stay alive they will just keep on being a pain in the ass if someone else steps up they hopefully won't have the same amount of money and connections and if they do we kill them too until we can find reasonable members of the saudi government that we can deal with.

 

[kingblaze84]

Former CIA official and Middle East expert Michael Scheuer states Obama and America bombing ISIS has been propaganda GOLD for ISIS and will end in complete disaster because the strikes are increasing recruits for ISIS.....like me and most other people around the world, he suggests we abandon Israel as a friend because Israel is too hated to be allied with, and America's relationship with the apartheid state is also propaganda gold against America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZIDCGy9V9mw

--An incredibly smart man

 

[kingblaze84]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

We all agree ISIS is worse but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs still fund ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. So again, any war against ISIS is a waste of time without the head of the snake, Saudis, being addressed. Assassinating Saudi princes would make the problem worse. The 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT over FULL PARAGRAPHS when it came to the Saudis, hmm I wonder why. The whole region is a mess, and "destroying" ISIS will be meaningless anyway because the SAUDIS and many of their friends in Turkey and Qatar will just fund another group that wants to take out Assad and counter the Shiites of the region. America is best sitting this one out, like China and other large nations.

China???? lol america will only be sitting this out for so long eventually we will have to fix the problem we caused by removing saddam. all the supporters of isis need to either be killed or their money frozen better yet both.

assassinating who we need to will make it worse how??? if they stay alive they will just keep on being a pain in the ass if someone else steps up they hopefully won't have the same amount of money and connections and if they do we kill them too until we can find reasonable members of the saudi government that we can deal with.

Watch the video and then reply

 

[(Nope)]

The U.S. either needs to sever all ties with the region, or systematically kill any and everyone that has anything to do with ISIS. I hate war and the war-machine, but they need to stop half-stepping. This pseudo-diplomatic approach they are taking is fucking frivolous and the cost is immeasurable.

 

[(Nope)]

If we weren't so fucking greedy and preoccupied with oil, this would be a non-issue. All that money wasted could have been used for infrastructure as well as clean and renewable energy.

A whole lot of lives have been and will continue to be lost for nothing; and the U.S. is responsible.

 

[zombie]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

We all agree ISIS is worse but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs still fund ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. So again, any war against ISIS is a waste of time without the head of the snake, Saudis, being addressed. Assassinating Saudi princes would make the problem worse. The 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT over FULL PARAGRAPHS when it came to the Saudis, hmm I wonder why. The whole region is a mess, and "destroying" ISIS will be meaningless anyway because the SAUDIS and many of their friends in Turkey and Qatar will just fund another group that wants to take out Assad and counter the Shiites of the region. America is best sitting this one out, like China and other large nations.

China???? lol america will only be sitting this out for so long eventually we will have to fix the problem we caused by removing saddam. all the supporters of isis need to either be killed or their money frozen better yet both.

assassinating who we need to will make it worse how??? if they stay alive they will just keep on being a pain in the ass if someone else steps up they hopefully won't have the same amount of money and connections and if they do we kill them too until we can find reasonable members of the saudi government that we can deal with.

Watch the video and then reply

LISTEN i don't care what the motives of isis are they want us to come back and so do I, except i want us to go back under a total war condition which is something isis or any fighting force in the mid-east has never faced. That video only reinforces what i already believe the guy in the video is just like you he seems to think islam will leave us alone if we leave them alone that is bullshit.

all people who believe in radical islam i want dead. like i have been saying we have wipe them out . what we have been doing in the mid-east is wasting time and money. I WANT TOTAL war in the muslim world i want the removal of every threat in the mid-east, that takes commitment from the american people and is the ideal and best solution.

if we ever stop supporting israel, while they are still surrounded by hostile nations our foreign policy world wide will collapse not just in the mid-east. if we abandon israel that sends a message to japan,south korea and any other nation that depends on our military backing that we cannot keep our word and that all an enemy has to do is pressure us enough and we will back down. Doing what you and that guy want risks unraveling the relative peace of the world.

We have to support israel and if we did what that guy said isis would be stronger and would attack israel, eventually leading to their use of wmds probably millions would die. leaving isis alone could also could also spark an sunni-shia war which could leave iran even more powerful i really don't want that.

 

[kingblaze84]

If we weren't so fucking greedy and preoccupied with oil, this would be a non-issue. All that money wasted could have been used for infrastructure as well as clean and renewable energy.

A whole lot of lives have been and will continue to be lost for nothing; and the U.S. is responsible.

Can you imagine what America could have done with the trillion or two trillion dollars it has spent on the disastrous war in Iraq? We could have built BOATLOADS of affordable housing, homeless shelters, bail out the middle and lower class, and most importantly, pay down our debt to improve America's social safety net.

Now, we're gonna waste it all on the Middle East, AGAIN.

 

[kingblaze84]

let them have it, because if we go back we should own it permenantly.

i say fuck iraq

Word, let them learn to live with ISIS LOL, America can't even beat the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and we're supposed to suddenly destroy ISIS haha what a joke. I don't want to risk a single American life for that hell hole, if the people there can't beat them, then we might as well learn to do business with them (just as America does business with the beheading, Shariah loving govt of Saudi Arabia)

we can do business with saudi arabia because it's a stable government and it's ultimate goal is just to keep the saudi family in power not uniting the billions of muslims all over the world for holy war.

Yeah but Saudi Arabia has programs all over the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa that support militant Wahhabi Sunni Islam, which is known to be radical regarding spreading Islam. There are documentaries on this all over, and ISIS actually agrees with a huge part of it
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/09/06...ok-at-the-history-of-saudi-arabias-wahhabism/

And don't forget Saudi Arabian princes, according to Joe Biden himself, are helping to fund ISIS. And guess what? America isn't doing drone strikes or massive warfare there. In the end, America does business with the Saudis, who aren't much better then ISIS. Saudi Arabia probably beheads almost as many people per month as ISIS does. I guess you also forgot 19 out of the 20 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, didn't you? Don't make yourself look silly here.

saudi arabia is disgusting but it's nothing like isis i know people who have been in saudi arabia it's not what you are trying to portray it as. You honestly just don't know what the fuck you are talking about comparing saudi arabia to isis. True, there are people in saudi arabia that want to spread wahhabi islam but isis considers itself a caliphate the later is much much much worse.

We all agree ISIS is worse but Saudi Arabian princes and emirs still fund ISIS AND Al-Qaeda. So again, any war against ISIS is a waste of time without the head of the snake, Saudis, being addressed. Assassinating Saudi princes would make the problem worse. The 9/11 report was BLACKED OUT over FULL PARAGRAPHS when it came to the Saudis, hmm I wonder why. The whole region is a mess, and "destroying" ISIS will be meaningless anyway because the SAUDIS and many of their friends in Turkey and Qatar will just fund another group that wants to take out Assad and counter the Shiites of the region. America is best sitting this one out, like China and other large nations.

China???? lol america will only be sitting this out for so long eventually we will have to fix the problem we caused by removing saddam. all the supporters of isis need to either be killed or their money frozen better yet both.

assassinating who we need to will make it worse how??? if they stay alive they will just keep on being a pain in the ass if someone else steps up they hopefully won't have the same amount of money and connections and if they do we kill them too until we can find reasonable members of the saudi government that we can deal with.

Watch the video and then reply

LISTEN i don't care what the motives of isis are they want us to come back and so do I, except i want us to go back under a total war condition which is something isis or any fighting force in the mid-east has never faced. That video only reinforces what i already believe the guy in the video is just like you he seems to think islam will leave us alone if we leave them alone that is bullshit.

all people who believe in radical islam i want dead. like i have been saying we have wipe them out . what we have been doing in the mid-east is wasting time and money. I WANT TOTAL war in the muslim world i want the removal of every threat in the mid-east, that takes commitment from the american people and is the ideal and best solution.

if we ever stop supporting israel, while they are still surrounded by hostile nations our foreign policy world wide will collapse not just in the mid-east. if we abandon israel that sends a message to japan,south korea and any other nation that depends on our military backing that we cannot keep our word and that all an enemy has to do is pressure us enough and we will back down. Doing what you and that guy want risks unraveling the relative peace of the world.

We have to support israel and if we did what that guy said isis would be stronger and would attack israel, eventually leading to their use of wmds probably millions would die. leaving isis alone could also could also spark an sunni-shia war which could leave iran even more powerful i really don't want that.

What you said regarding the apartheid, terrorist state of Israel doesn't make any sense, first of all, did you know America used to be close to IRAN? We're not anymore, and America still has allies around the world. So America abandoning Israel as it turns into a fascist state would not affect us in the negative, in fact the Middle East would love America for it. You do realize Israel is the 2nd most hated nation in the world right? America leaving Israel alone to fight its battles alone would do wonders for America's reputation worldwide. South Africa's apartheid regime said the same stupid nonsense you said, and the world rejoiced when America finally put sanctions on it. Today, America is more or less popular in Africa (in most places). It wasn't always like that.

Regarding American total war in the Middle East, it's an interesting (and horrible) idea but why won't you let Iran take the lead in that? What is your beef with Iran??? Iran is already a powerful nation, Iran has troops on the ground against ISIS. Bashar Assad has troops on the ground against ISIS. PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT YOU WANT AGAINST ISIS, in the region. America getting involved has made things worse, even Iran has said this. If you're so worried about Israel using nukes in the region out of desperation, why aren't you advocating taking out Israeli leadership? Oh that's right, you're a fundamentalist Christian who wishes to protect Israel at all costs, even to the reputation of America. You are putting Israel's interests AHEAD of American interests (you are what we call an Israel Firster), and that is clouding your vision of almost everything else.

 

[kingblaze84]

And we can't remove EVERY threat from the Middle East, impossible as long as America maintains a bloodthirsty, belligerent foreign policy and supports terrorism via the support of Israel. As long as these constants remain, America will NEVER run out of devoted enemies in the region and against our interests (oil companies and embassies worldwide)

The Middle East has also faced total war before, I guess you forgot about the Crusades (oh and by the way, the Muslims won that one lol)

 

[MrSoutCity]

Iraqi troops on some bitch shit. Why are they always on the defensive, Then niggas needs to get the fuck up and mount an offensive against ISIS.

 

[zombie]

@kingblaze84‌

we still have allies around the world because they know we won't abandon them, but if we show that we can drop israel it means we can drop anybody. We used to have close ties to iran but not any more that bridge has been burnt a long time ago.

israel has to be an apartheid state for it to exist and i have no issue with that, they cannot give arabs equal citizenship if they did in a generation it won't be israel anymore, it would no longer be a jewish state which would defeat the purpose of there being an israel in the first place. south africa was a totally different situation because religion was not at the core of the problem. You should know how islam works by now the arabs would slaughter/convert the jews if israel did away with apartheid there is no mandela in this situation.

I don't care how much people hate america or israel, america is going to get hate no matter what because we are the powerful ones and have to make the choices that other nations don't have to, because every time there is some problem in the world every one looks to us. israel is hated because it exist and does what it needs to to keep existing. I am not a christian fundamentalist but like it or not until the middle east changes we are stuck with israel and your cowardly liberal nonsense won't change that.

If we allow iran to take the lead in this isis situation we risk making iran more powerful and iran is a nation that is hostile to us and our allies also it could mean spreading war and sunni-shia fighting which would risk oil production and fuck with the world wide economy. People are going against isis??? who iran is not doing much they fucking what to black mail the world for their support against isis, iran cannot be trusted. turkey is not doing much and they are the number one nation that should be fighting isis. but they won't because right now their is political struggles between islamist and secularist in turkey.

 

[zombie]

And we can't remove EVERY threat from the Middle East, impossible as long as America maintains a bloodthirsty, belligerent foreign policy and supports terrorism via the support of Israel. As long as these constants remain, America will NEVER run out of devoted enemies in the region and against our interests (oil companies and embassies worldwide)

The Middle East has also faced total war before, I guess you forgot about the Crusades (oh and by the way, the Muslims won that one lol)

NIgga, the crusades were not total wars once again you show that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about but you think you do and you speak this ignorance with such conviction and actually the christians won some of those wars.

your anti-americanism garbage has rotted your brain, if you don't know what total war is look it up and it's not 1077 . An american launched total war on the mid-east would crush these people into the dust for generations there would not be much men alive still willing to fight. first of all OUR war with them would force many of the nations in western europe to clamp down or expel their muslim populations. Because of our position in the world it would cause world wide change in almost every nation on earth.