Iraqi troops suffer mass slaughter one mile from Baghdad: the general ISIS Chat thread

[janklow]

I've criticized Assad's behavior several times already though, same with the Russians at times.

when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?

Syrians elected Assad as president, so his government and other Syrians should get the final say, even if you don't respect the results of Assad's election a few years ago.

it's not just that i don't respect the election. i believe his behavior toward his fellow Syrians makes his presidency invalid.

 

[kingblaze84]

I've criticized Assad's behavior several times already though, same with the Russians at times.

when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?

Syrians elected Assad as president, so his government and other Syrians should get the final say, even if you don't respect the results of Assad's election a few years ago.

it's not just that i don't respect the election. i believe his behavior toward his fellow Syrians makes his presidency invalid.

America's recent disastrous foreign policy record speaks for itself. I know people who travel and you better believe the hatred for America in much of the Middle East is large and everlasting. America has a huge amount of enemies worldwide for a reason, so don't expect me to pretend America doesn't deserve the most blame for this current situation. We know who started the war in Iraq.

And if Assad's behavior toward his fellow Syrians makes his presidency invalid, fine. Let the Syrians take him out, and end up another basketcase nation, like Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and whatever other nation that's totally screwed up these days.

 

[The_Jackal]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

 

[kingblaze84]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

He probably was forced to leave or was punished somehow.....there are soldiers who have said worse though.

 

[The_Jackal]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

He probably was forced to leave or was punished somehow.....there are soldiers who have said worse though.

Good. And they should be punished according too.

 

[kingblaze84]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

He probably was forced to leave or was punished somehow.....there are soldiers who have said worse though.

Good. And they should be punished according too.

I guess so, I guess the question then is, why are so many soldiers complaining about what they were forced to do in Iraq? There's whole groups of American soldiers who said they were forced to do horrible things there. Many have even thrown away their medals.

 

[kingblaze84]

Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton knows Qatar and Saudi Arabian officials are funding ISIS and has known for years


http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/lea...allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/

Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS



A recently leaked 2014 email from Hillary Clinton acknowledges, citing Western intelligence sources, that the U.S.-backed regimes in Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS.

“We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region,” the document states.



She added however, “That’s been complicated by the fact that the Saudis and others are shipping large amounts of weapons — and pretty indiscriminately — not at all targeted toward the people that we think would be the more moderate, least likely, to cause problems in the future.”



--So if the Saudis and Qatar are funding ISIS and providing them with weapons and ammo according to Hillary Clinton, why doesn't she threaten those nations the way she threatens Russia and Iran? I guess the natural gas pipeline the Saudis, American corporations and others want built in Syria is too important. I also wonder how long the Saudis and others will continue to fund ISIS......

 

[The_Jackal]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

He probably was forced to leave or was punished somehow.....there are soldiers who have said worse though.

Good. And they should be punished according too.

I guess so, I guess the question then is, why are so many soldiers complaining about what they were forced to do in Iraq? There's whole groups of American soldiers who said they were forced to do horrible things there. Many have even thrown away their medals.

Lol cut the generalization and clearly false information out. Nobody forced anyone to join the army. As a nigga who just about to hit his E5 I can gladly tell anyone who don't wanna be in the army to start that separation packet.

It's not like someone joined as a cook and stumbled into the combat arms

 

[kingblaze84]

I hope that his chain of command saw this bullshit.

He probably was forced to leave or was punished somehow.....there are soldiers who have said worse though.

Good. And they should be punished according too.

I guess so, I guess the question then is, why are so many soldiers complaining about what they were forced to do in Iraq? There's whole groups of American soldiers who said they were forced to do horrible things there. Many have even thrown away their medals.

Lol cut the generalization and clearly false information out. Nobody forced anyone to join the army. As a nigga who just about to hit his E5 I can gladly tell anyone who don't wanna be in the army to start that separation packet.

It's not like someone joined as a cook and stumbled into the combat arms

There are plenty of Youtube videos of American soldiers and even groups of them saying worse and feeling guilt about war crimes their commanders told them to commit, I can post dozens of them. I agree no one forces someone to sign up to the military but what the soldiers say makes sense because the hate for those who work with American soldiers or government in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, among other places, is extreme.

 

[janklow]

America's recent disastrous foreign policy record speaks for itself. I know people who travel and you better believe the hatred for America in much of the Middle East is large and everlasting. America has a huge amount of enemies worldwide for a reason, so don't expect me to pretend America doesn't deserve the most blame for this current situation. We know who started the war in Iraq.

okay, let's review my question and your response:

janklow: "when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?"

kingblaze: "I know people who travel and you better believe the hatred for America in much of the Middle East is large and everlasting."

please spare me the bullshit dodge. the question is when you've criticized Assad without immediately qualifying it with a complaint about America. your response was nothing BUT a complaint about America. please answer the question or admit that you don't actually do that.

And if Assad's behavior toward his fellow Syrians makes his presidency invalid, fine. Let the Syrians take him out-

if this is your belief, then complain about ALL non-Syrian action in the country!

 

[kingblaze84]

America's recent disastrous foreign policy record speaks for itself. I know people who travel and you better believe the hatred for America in much of the Middle East is large and everlasting. America has a huge amount of enemies worldwide for a reason, so don't expect me to pretend America doesn't deserve the most blame for this current situation. We know who started the war in Iraq.

okay, let's review my question and your response:

janklow: "when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?"

kingblaze: "I know people who travel and you better believe the hatred for America in much of the Middle East is large and everlasting."

please spare me the bullshit dodge. the question is when you've criticized Assad without immediately qualifying it with a complaint about America. your response was nothing BUT a complaint about America. please answer the question or admit that you don't actually do that.

And if Assad's behavior toward his fellow Syrians makes his presidency invalid, fine. Let the Syrians take him out-

if this is your belief, then complain about ALL non-Syrian action in the country!

I fully admit to blaming America more for the current problems in the Middle East then Assad or Iran. America is hated by many Shia and Sunnis in the region for a reason.

 

[kingblaze84]

Assad most likely will stay in power for a long time, the Syrian rebels are getting their asses kicked badly lately. ISIS will hold on to Raqqa and likely Mosul until sometime next year though.

 

[janklow]

I fully admit to blaming America more for the current problems in the Middle East then Assad or Iran. America is hated by many Shia and Sunnis in the region for a reason.

another dodge. will you actually answer my question now?

 

[kingblaze84]

I fully admit to blaming America more for the current problems in the Middle East then Assad or Iran. America is hated by many Shia and Sunnis in the region for a reason.

another dodge. will you actually answer my question now?

What do you want me to say? I have said Assad has done some bad actions, we all already know this. But I will bring up America in the same breathe because America helped fund many of the Syrian rebels who later on morphed into ISIS. Much of these rebels were known to have ties to Al-Qaeda, Wikileaks and journalists have already noted this. Assad is a bad guy, okay, but America acts like demons in the region at times as well. Ask the civilians of Afghanistan and Yemen.

The war in Iraq was the great incubator of the forming of ISIS, and we all know who led that stupid war. Hillary is now suffering for voting for it.

 

[janklow]

What do you want me to say?

i just want you to give me a straight answer to this question: "when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?"

 

[kingblaze84]

What do you want me to say?

i just want you to give me a straight answer to this question: "when have you done this WITHOUT immediately qualifying it with a complaint about how much worse America is?"

I have answered this already, haven't I already admitted to being MORE disgusted with America's history of international chaos and violence worldwide? I freely admit to blaming America more, that should answer your question.

 

[janklow]

I have answered this already, haven't I already admitted to being MORE disgusted with America's history of international chaos and violence worldwide?

not an answer to the question, actually

 

[kingblaze84]

Russia and Assad are said to be pleased with Trump taking office, as Trump has spoken very nicely about Russia and Assad.

Hopefully, Trump leaves Assad and Russia alone, considering the extreme hatred toward America in the region. Just today, 4 American soldiers died in a massive bombing at an AMERICAN MILITARY BASE in Afghanistan, 16 other American soldiers injured and badly burned. Taliban claimed responsibility. America has enough enemies worldwide, it's better off leaving Assad and Russia alone.

 

[kingblaze84]

I have answered this already, haven't I already admitted to being MORE disgusted with America's history of international chaos and violence worldwide?

not an answer to the question, actually

I don't know. I blame America much more for the problems in that part of the world, that much I do know.

-An Iraqi victim of American cancer causing weapons. Many, many thousands in Iraq are just like this little girl.

 

[janklow]

I don't know. I blame America much more for the problems in that part of the world, that much I do know.

the point is that it reveals your criticisms of America to be redundant noise because you literally refuse to criticize other people for ANYTHING without bitching about America in the same breath. it's fucking lame, man.