In your opinion, who is the best rapper ever?

[THE_R_]

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 4:44...

I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN MY LIFETIME VOL. 1...

EITHER WAY, JAY FANS ARE THE WORST...

EVERYONE'S A FANATIC & APARRANTLY HE HAS 8 CLASSICS :lol:

 

[Moore7s]

Sidebar... Does greatest rapper include live shows because Jay and Nas love shows were trash for a long time

Jayz was the best live concert I've ever been to....back when he did the tour with 50 not so much but I've seen him twice since then and it was great

Nas isn't bad live either...but not the best

I'm talking prior to 05. I paid money to see both and was beyond disappointed.

On the other hand artists like Meth, The roots, Outkast(yea I know about the reunion flop), and LL cool J are known for giving fans 100% on stage from the jump

Edit* I left out tech n9ne. His live show is legendary

 

[THE_R_]

RED & METH LIVE IS NO JOKE :+1:

 

[nex gin]

Nas

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 4:44...

I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN MY LIFETIME VOL. 1...

EITHER WAY, JAY FANS ARE THE WORST...

EVERYONE'S A FANATIC & APARRANTLY HE HAS 8 CLASSICS :lol:

Sorry, I was unclear. In the 4:44 topic I said Vol. 1 wasn't that good, and got the reaction I mentioned.

I also said Jay fans are the worst so we are definitely in agreement there.

 

[KamPushMe]

Rakim>>>>>>>

 

[Kwan Dai]

NAS.

He's Slick Rick, Melle Mel, Moe dee, Chuck D, GrandMaster Caz, BDK, GRAP, Krs, LL, Shan, Ice T and Ice Cube all rolled into one MC.

However, he's not number one or 10 on my list. Those spots are reserved for all of the MC's that made and inspired Nas to become illlmatic..

 

[power_wisdom]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

Make a poll about it and I bet you will lose.

 

[KamPushMe]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

You sound dumb asf

 

[bck145]

Sidebar... Does greatest rapper include live shows because Jay and Nas love shows were trash for a long time

Jayz was the best live concert I've ever been to....back when he did the tour with 50 not so much but I've seen him twice since then and it was great

Nas isn't bad live either...but not the best

I'm talking prior to 05. I paid money to see both and was beyond disappointed.

On the other hand artists like Meth, The roots, Outkast(yea I know about the reunion flop), and LL cool J are known for giving fans 100% on stage from the jump

Edit* I left out tech n9ne. His live show is legendary

Red and meth have a ton of energy on stage....ludacris, busta, em, big daddy kane all put on awesome shows

The worst live performance I've seen from a legend was slick rick...that was beyond terrible

 

[bck145]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

You sound dumb asf

Feelings hurt....cant take the opinion...carry on with your business then

 

[bck145]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

Make a poll about it and I bet you will lose.

I don't give a fuck about polls...ppl say illmatic is the best because everyone says illmatic is the best....but it's not as well rounded as me against the world

 

[KamPushMe]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

 

[bck145]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

Aeom is a top 5 rap album ever and the best double disc ever.....stillmatic is a classic but it's not in the same level and gtfo with iww..thats a good album but not classic level

 

[KamPushMe]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

Aeom is a top 5 rap album ever and the best double disc ever.....stillmatic is a classic but it's not in the same level and gtfo with iww..thats a good album but not classic level

7 day theory>>>>> AEOM. So both are top 5 rap albums?

 

[power_wisdom]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

Aeom is a top 5 rap album ever and the best double disc ever.....stillmatic is a classic but it's not in the same level and gtfo with iww..thats a good album but not classic level

Killah Priest Psychic world of Walter Reed is the best double album I ever heard. 41 songs, all bangers no skit tracks. And I didn't like the Elizabeth album much which was 24 songs, so I was pleasantly surprised. And if everyone saying Illmatic is the best album......I don't know, maybe you are wrong.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

Make a poll about it and I bet you will lose.

I don't give a fuck about polls...ppl say illmatic is the best because everyone says illmatic is the best....but it's not as well rounded as me against the world

Illmatic > Me Against the World and its not even close

 

[bck145]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

Aeom is a top 5 rap album ever and the best double disc ever.....stillmatic is a classic but it's not in the same level and gtfo with iww..thats a good album but not classic level

7 day theory>>>>> AEOM. So both are top 5 rap albums?

Yes I've said that many times before....hence Pac being the goat

 

[bck145]

Tupac

I'll take heart on a track over super lyrical any day....music should be from the heart and not how you piece words together

Nas got heart felt music. One love, black girl lost, We will survive, Dance, to name a few.

Yeah but it's not close to tupac at all

Nas is second for me

And Pac is nowhere close to being lyrical, creative or a good storyteller as Nas.

Yeah but pac make a better music overall which is the most important....theres a ton of creative ideas in hip hop or super lyrical verses and stories but I'll take the real music over that anyday

Illmatic probably the Goat album of all time. Cut it out.

But it's not....me against the world > illmatic

All eyez on me and 7 day theory > all nas albums not named illmatic

So all eyes on me is better than Iww and stillmatic? lol AEOM is one of the most overrated albums of all time

Aeom is a top 5 rap album ever and the best double disc ever.....stillmatic is a classic but it's not in the same level and gtfo with iww..thats a good album but not classic level

Killah Priest Psychic world of Walter Reed is the best double album I ever heard. 41 songs, all bangers no skit tracks. And I didn't like the Elizabeth album much which was 24 songs, so I was pleasantly surprised. And if everyone saying Illmatic is the best album......I don't know, maybe you are wrong.

How is an opinion about music wrong?

Thats like saying I like one painting over another

 

[The Lonious Monk]

IMO no double albums are classic. I feel like every double album out there from could have been better had it been condensed into a single album. I can't think of one that couldn't have benefited from a little pruning.

And as much as I love the PWoWR and am glad it got a mention, that's definitely true for that album.