Illuminati Organizational Structure

[major pain]

son u bodied your own argument with the bolded. I already said most Freemasons don't get down like that. but some do.

I can see u now, "I am the Major! no one is more practical & Logical than I!"

look man you are not the barometer of who is a good debater not. u follow the Greek Frat & Freemasonic cultural traditions. u see the world through that lens which cool. but that does not make u the barometer for truth.

I'mma add to this a lil bit. think about it this way. P2 Masonry was a public relations nightmare. they sent P2 back underground to save their reputation.

So, you're stance is a Grand body knew this was going on and revoked their charter to look good. You're proof of this just because you say so? Or is there proof?

Its not about ME being a barometer of truth. The truth is what it is. Can you prove what you said is true? Or will you continue with your incessant rambling that its just simply "true"?

I said you are have not been in a real debate, because in those instances you need to show examples, that can be verified, of your argument. Something you have yet to do.

Again, with your generalizations about cultural traditions I believe in. As if you know me. Such as? Not to believe stupidity?

 

[musicology1985]

So, you're stance is a Grand body knew this was going on and revoked their charter to look good. You're proof of this just because you say so? Or is there proof?

Its not about ME being a barometer of truth. The truth is what it is. Can you prove what you said is true? Or will you continue with your incessant rambling that its just simply "true"?

I said you are have not been in a real debate, because in those instances you need to show examples, that can be verified, of your argument. Something you have yet to do.

Again, with your generalizations about cultural traditions I believe in. As if you know me. Such as? Not to believe stupidity?

think what u want Major. the proof is in the history and I have proven myself thoroughly from beginning to end.

 

[musicology1985]

Nigga fuck the bohemian grove shit, fact of the matter is that there is a global agenda going on and I dont know if there called masons, illumaniti, globalists or elites but its some shit going on cant we wake up and agree on that???

the Vatican and it's Knighthoods & Royal Orders controls all of that.

 

[jay83]

alex jones

david icke

micheal tsarion

jordan maxwell

If Im not mistaken, some of the material you have posted these two have said as well.

Most of these guys all say the same thing, but with a slight spin on it.

 

[major pain]

think what u want Major. the proof is in the history and I have proven myself thoroughly from beginning to end.

So, thats a, "No, I cant prove what I'm saying right"? Just want to be clear, you have no specifics about this subject in particular, right?

Ya know, I'd respect your stance much more if you had said something along the lines of "No, I dont have proof, I just believe this because its circumstantial, but I have nothing tangible to back it up." I'd still think you were intentionally being stupid, but I'd respect the stupidity more.

 

[musicology1985]

So, thats a, "No, I cant prove what I'm saying right"? Just want to be clear, you have no specifics about this subject in particular, right?

Ya know, I'd respect your stance much more if you had said something along the lines of "No, I dont have proof, I just believe this because its circumstantial, but I have nothing tangible to back it up." I'd still think you were intentionally being stupid, but I'd respect the stupidity more.

the specifics are right in front of you. they sent P2 Masonry underground to save face for Freemasonry in general. P2 came back as the dominant force in Italian politics and media (hence their name, propaganda.) if u don't like that? so be it. we can go back and forth until the cows come home. and how can u respect intentional stupidity? that's retarded. I could never respect you no matter what the circumstance are because of what u represent (the establishment.) I been laid out the facts.

 

[musicology1985]

and Pain when u really look at it. I'm debating a oil guy form Houston inducted into Greek frats & freemasonry. I mean come on man. it's not like we gonna see some common ground. u have NO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to accept what I'm saying.

the Prince Hall & York Rite Freemasons that I work with know me from family bloodline & community activism. so it's different. they know I'm not out to slander Freemasonry, but I do include them as an element of global order.

 

[major pain]

the specifics are right in front of you. they sent P2 Masonry underground to save face for Freemasonry in general. P2 came back as the dominant force in Italian politics and media (hence their name, propaganda.) if u don't like that? so be it. we can go back and forth until the cows come home. and how can u respect intentional stupidity? that's retarded. I could never respect you no matter what the circumstance are because of what u represent (the establishment.) I been laid out the facts.

I would respect it more, going from 0 to 1 isnt a big jump lol... at least then you would say that you are not saying this on the account of any empirical evidence. I find that intentionally stupid.

 

[musicology1985]

I would respect it more, going from 0 to 1 isnt a big jump lol... at least then you would say that you are not saying this on the account of any empirical evidence. I find that intentionally stupid.

your view of me means absolutely nothing. now if I actually followed your train of thought it would, but that is not the case.

and the evidence is all around. u just can't take it for what it is. few Freemasons are involved in global control, but some are. the organization does, for the most part, help keep the global order system going because it is an integral part of western civilization.

 

[major pain]

and Pain when u really look at it. I'm debating a oil guy form Houston inducted into Greek frats & freemasonry. I mean come on man. it's not like we gonna see some common ground. u have NO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to accept what I'm saying.

the Prince Hall & York Rite Freemasons that I work with know me from family bloodline & community activism. so it's different. they know I'm not out to slander Freemasonry, but I do include them as an element of global order.

First of all, I'm not an "oil guy", I said I work in the industry. If you came up with a credible REASON as to why you keep saying the things you are coming up with we could come to common ground, but you have not. I'm not above having a debate about what is and isnt with masonry, but basing your argument on circumstantial ideas that cannot be verified is a quick way to get dismissed as a tin foil hat wearer.

 

[musicology1985]

If Im not mistaken, some of the material you have posted these two have said as well.

Most of these guys all say the same thing, but with a slight spin on it.

exactly. but it is the job of a disinfo agent to lead u off of the track. that's why they always leave out the Roman Catholic Church and especially the black aspect of it all. Maxwell touches on the church vaguely but will not touch the black aspect.

so I started checking through their stuff and realized that this was the key that they are trying to hide. the exact families in control of the Vatican and how they accomplished global supremacy by studying under the black man & then defeating the black man while creating networks for the obedient to serve under them (Freemasonry, Greek Societies, corporatocracy, military, politics & intelligence.) now we are being inducted into the Knighthoods.

if your going to tell the story, tell it all.

 

[musicology1985]

the disinfo agents all have their purpose

Alex Jones wants everybody to panic all the time. NEW WORLD ORDER IS COMIN! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! AHH! all that bullshit. he also wants u to buy all his products & he puts way too much blame on the Jews (they are just one element, just like freemasonry. and that ain't even all Jews, just the Hofjuden, Zionists & Mossad.)

David Icke spends his time talking about green aliens and all that bullshit. we have practical issues to deal with. not green aliens.

 

[musicology1985]

this is the reason why they induct us into Greek Fraternities. the Ancient Egyptians inducted the Greeks into secret knowledge and schools. they flipped it around and induct us under their schools. talk about a supreme turnaround.

 

[musicology1985]

First of all, I'm not an "oil guy", I said I work in the industry. If you came up with a credible REASON as to why you keep saying the things you are coming up with we could come to common ground, but you have not. I'm not above having a debate about what is and isnt with masonry, but basing your argument on circumstantial ideas that cannot be verified is a quick way to get dismissed as a tin foil hat wearer.

look man. if I'm a tin foil hat wearer why don't u just dismiss it? leave it alone. say "fuck it, this guys crazy." do that shit since I'm not making any sense to u.

 

[major pain]

look man. if I'm a tin foil hat wearer why don't u just dismiss it? leave it alone. say "fuck it, this guys crazy." do that shit since I'm not making any sense to u.

Believe me, I've dismissed you already. Again, if you had come up with specific evidence of your claims then I could lend some weight to your ideas. I'm just asking for evidence of your claims, if you have nothing to come up with, I'm cool with that.

 

[musicology1985]

Believe me, I've dismissed you already. Again, if you had come up with specific evidence of your claims then I could lend some weight to your ideas. I'm just asking for evidence of your claims, if you have nothing to come up with, I'm cool with that.

oh u dismissed me but u still talking? MOVE ON. I have given u way more than enough. go help fix the oil disaster in the gulf or sumthin.'

 

[major pain]

oh u dismissed me but u still talking? MOVE ON. I have given u way more than enough. go help fix the oil disaster in the gulf or sumthin.'

You've been weighed, measured, and found wanting. Buh-bye

 

[musicology1985]

you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting. Buh-bye

lmao gtfohwtbs

 

[Ordem e Progresso]

At least you have the in cling to question the world around you but a lot of you spend a lot of time connecting the wrong dots

 

[musicology1985]

At least you have the in cling to question the world around you but a lot of you spend a lot of time connecting the wrong dots

good criticism. may I ask, what wrong dots are u referring to?

and as far as time thing goes, this is historical analysis that I am currently working on. sometimes it deals with conspiracy. sometimes it doesn't. either way I will have opposition.

my opposition for this type of research usually comes from members of the establishment or those who stand to benefit.

and u seem to be Latino. is it my criticism of the Catholic Church that your alluding to, because a great deal of Latinos are Catholic.