Illuminati Organizational Structure

[musicology1985]

Real masons fuck with the occult and know about the astral plane and raising the kundalini thru the 33 vertebrates

this is true.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Just commenting on something I read. Even though the actual "depiction" of the baphomet aka satan could be a made up image like you said. Well know occultist and satanists ACCEPt the image as a image of satan. So the fact that it may not be what satan really looks like, it doesn't change the fact that those popel worship him and accept the image. This is similar to thw white jesus that is so commonly accepted as the true picture of how christ looked. Even though it really is not him and is Cesare Borgia. People still look at the image and call it "Jesus". Just because it is not him doesnt mean they dont worship him. So my question is, with the picture out of the way, do some masons if not all of you worship the baphomet in spirit?

SN: Satan is a spirt just like the most high, so they have no true physical apperance. Christ, however, did and it most definatley is not the image so widely accepted in this world......

 

[independentsoundlab]

Actually, if you READ, I said the IMAGE of Baphomet. Someone said it has a head of a goat and "titties". Since you claim to read so much then it should not be hard to verify WHERE the first IMAGE of that thing came from. My point is, people are claiming that masons believe or worship this goat-headed tittied diety, but that image was completely MADE UP. You mean to tell me that ALL the masons that worship this thing are all stupid enough to believe that?

Again, you no NOTHING of how the degrees are setup. Once someone achieves their 3rd degree, they are entitled to as many other degrees as they choose to get. The 33 degrees of the SCOTTISH RITE do NOT have "power" over the so called "lower" lodges. If so, how would you explain their so called "power" over the other rites? York rite for example.A grand master is an elected officer over a grand lodge. Typically they have more than just their 3rd degree, but the title of Grand Master refers to his jurisdiction of "blue"lodges only. In that capacity, he has no "power" over any other bodies or rites. Its no different than being mayor of a city.

If being a mason is so secret, how is it that many famous people in history are KNOWN masons? its not a closed door society at all, any man is free to apply and welcome to join as long as he meets the requirements AND is accepted by a lodge.

When people make stupid ass comments about what masons believe, then those people are trying to speak for all of masonry. Yes, lodges do things differently, but if you mean to tell me there is a lodge out there worshipping Baphomet, Lucifer, or any other "evil" entity then again, I challenge you to prove the claim or you can keep tossing around the word "coon" like its hurtful, lol .

yea that picture is recent..

though i never said all or any masons praised the baphomet.. one of the requirements of masonry is belief.. correct?? one has to believe in a god like a christianity.. then so, luciferians can join masonry.. as well as pagans.. i dont see why praising the baphomet and being a freemason is blasphemy... enlighten me please..

im talking within A lodge.. a 33* mason or a grand master are equal to an apprentice??? i cant believe that...

but if you know everything about masonry.. what/how was your initiation? how often you have meetings? whats your meetings about? rituals? ceremonies? benefits? beefs? video evidence? pictures? if masonry was legit from the start.. you wouldnt have these radical groups storming down on you all.. answering those questions might not even "exonerate" your lodge.. i believe most corrupt ones are overseas anyway.. corrupt being embezzlement, drug trafficking, kidnapping, murder, etc. i do believe masons control the world.. and i do believe some have evil intentions..

hollywood is full of masons.. including the media.. music, etc. who wouldnt want to join an organization where they promise you work for the rest of your life??

ya coon.. lol..

 

[major pain]

Just commenting on something I read. Even though the actual "depiction" of the baphomet aka satan could be a made up image like you said. Well know occultist and satanists ACCEPt the image as a image of satan. So the fact that it may not be what satan really looks like, it doesn't change the fact that those popel worship him and accept the image. This is similar to thw white jesus that is so commonly accepted as the true picture of how christ looked. Even though it really is not him and is Cesare Borgia. People still look at the image and call it "Jesus". Just because it is not him doesnt mean they dont worship him. So my question is, with the picture out of the way, do some masons if not all of you worship the baphomet in spirit?

SN: Satan is a spirt just like the most high, so they have no true physical apperance. Christ, however, did and it most definatley is not the image so widely accepted in this world......

No. Of all the masons I have met and know their denominations of religions NONE have ever even mentioned it. Aside from that, there is no empirical evidence to support the claim. Its ALL bullshit. It originated with a lie that was admitted to be a lie, but that lie is perpetuated today by the ignorant.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

baphomet is a mis-hearing or mis-translation of muhammad

back in the day, mysticism from the Islamic world was taboo in the Christian world, so anybody studying Islamic stuff would have to keep it quiet

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

This is some deep stuff, thanks for the incite, major pain.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

The Mighty Baphomet is not a Pagan deity, please refain from misusing the almighty's name in reference to your own assumptions of who he is.

From what I read the definition of the Baphomet means the corruption of Muhammad though I have no idea how deep it goes behind that.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

i've been learning alot and from what i gather in the beginning there was a tree of forbidden fruit which was cautioned to not be ate because it was of knowledge, so to illumanate (bring light) would be man acceptance of the evil...................

and so it begins......................

Exactly, that's what I was explaining. Illuminati is latin for enlightenment but Lucifer is latin for enlightened one. Illuminati's goal is to reach enlightenment and knowledge of everything but that is what got Lucifer banned from the kingdom of God. In addition, Lucifer conived Adam and Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge in order to reach enlightenment or the knowledge of everything so it goes into so much depth and has so much correlation to the bible but if your not a spiritual person, I can understand how this would not make any sense. All I see is Lucifer coniving people into obtaining unlimited knowledge and power by subliminally worshipping him without their knowledge and Lucifer loves spiritual people so that would ultimately be his main objective so that they can blame God.

 

[major pain]

yea that picture is recent..
though i never said all or any masons praised the baphomet.. one of the requirements of masonry is belief.. correct?? one has to believe in a god like a christianity.. then so, luciferians can join masonry.. as well as pagans.. i dont see why praising the baphomet and being a freemason is blasphemy... enlighten me please..

im talking within A lodge.. a 33* mason or a grand master are equal to an apprentice??? i cant believe that...
but if you know everything about masonry.. what/how was your initiation? how often you have meetings? whats your meetings about? rituals? ceremonies? benefits? beefs? video evidence? pictures? if masonry was legit from the start.. you wouldnt have these radical groups storming down on you all.. answering those questions might not even "exonerate" your lodge.. i believe most corrupt ones are overseas anyway.. corrupt being embezzlement, drug trafficking, kidnapping, murder, etc. i do believe masons control the world.. and i do believe some have evil intentions..

hollywood is full of masons.. including the media.. music, etc. who wouldnt want to join an organization where they promise you work for the rest of your life??

ya coon.. lol..

One of the requirements is belief in a diety or higher power, this much is correct. To join a lodge a person has to pass a vote. ONE single "No" can deny admittance to a lodge. So, do you really believe that in a group of people with stout religious beliefs, not ONE is going to deny this person that believes in something that is associated with "evil"?

You need to understand how the degrees work in order to "get it". Maybe I can help you with that. The "blue" lodge encompasses degrees 1-3. NO other rite or body governs the "blue" lodge. The 33rd degree ONLY applies to the Scottish Rite. degrees 4-32 with an HONORARY 33rd. A grand master only has jurisdiction over his GRAND Lodge. A grand lodge is made up of many local "blue" lodges. A grand master is also a member of a local "blue" and unless he is the Worshipful Master of THAT lodge, he does NOT dictate what goes on in that local lodge. You should also realize that there is the York rite, which covers a different set of degrees with their own numerical value. Being a 33rd degree mason does not mean anything (other than respect) as far as the York rite is concerned and vice versa. The rites are self sustained and self governed.

I'm not even sure answering those questions you posed will make much difference. I'm not trying to exonerate anything, I'm trying to educate you.
What do you mean how was my initiation? It was a wonderful experience and made me realize that what I thought I knew about masonry could not be any more wrong. Believe it or not I used to assume some of the same ideas as you.
Including the different rites, I have about 3-5 meetings a month.
Its a business meeting. If you've ever seen a board meeting or congress meet, its very similar.
The "rituals" are concerning the degrees. Each degree comes with a certain pomp and circumstance to it.
Yea, there are also ceremonies.
Yea, there are benefits to being a mason. I got pulled over last month and didnt get a ticket because the cop's father was a mason.
Not sure what you are looking for as far as videos, but "some" real ones are available on the internet. Its tough for someone who has never seen it performed in the privacy of the lodge to recognize real from fake though.

So, all radical groups are legit in their accusations? Ever hear of the Tea Party? These "groups" accuse because of ignorance. The so called evidence they produce to make such claims has been proven false since the accusations began 100s of years ago. Now, is that to say, there have not been some "bad" people that are masons, no, they are just bad people period. Being a mason is secondary to their nature. Even still, there has not and you will not find evidence of a large scale masonic body capable of all those things. I'm sure someone will bring up P2 in Italy, but again that is ONE lodge and they were quickly disassociated with once their crimes came out.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

1. Honestly i dont give a fuck that your a mason.. all im saying is.. YOU dont speak for every mason out.. your lodge may do shit differently then the lodges out in PA.. or Cali.. Never said they praised the baphomet.. just cleared up your bs.. YOU said it was created in the 19th century.. and you were wrong..

2. Grand Master is the leader of the lodge.. i dont know what the fuck you talking about.. 33rd degree mason has more power than an apprentice.. it would be chaos if an apprentice, a noob came in and started controlling the whole bid, dont you think?

3. Being a mason is a secret.. You just cant jump off the streets and say i wanna be down.. If it wasnt such a closed door society.. their will be less conspiracies out.. dont you think? what happens in the lodge, stays in the lodge.. saying that, take it how you want it..

I care less if you a deputy in the bitch or making cupcakes for the boss.. Masonry in the states may or may not differ than masonry say in europe or russia. Just cuz your lodge is full of roses and dandalions dont mean every lodge in the world is.. get my drift??? i research everything from books, actual masons, to niggas online.. im a biased dude so im not gonna accept every thing every coon throws at me..

not to sound wierd or anything.. look at your post count total "666" ... shit cant get any wierder huh?? lol...

Oh shit, never thought about that "666". In a minute, I will show you pictures of George Washington posing as the baphomet. As far as from what I've been reading "nothing from the internet or crazy people with conspiracy theories", you have to accept some form of spirituality; the freemasons claim that they aren't a religion but spiritual beings and the christians that were freemasons and went up the ranks stated that when they reached 33rd degrees and such were given an ultimatum to accept another spirituality and they couldn't do it because it's the corruption of there own religion. I still believe the baphomet is involved or is atleast a symbol from my understanding but freemasons will always be in denial about saying they accept it. It's not a pagan deity because there arent other gods involved, it only is one specific god that they believe all spiritualities are under which is why they accept all beliefs.

 

[Sourpatch Kid]

So this is some of the information that I got from this website:

http://www.illuminati-news.com/baphomet.htm

Baphomet and the Worship of him in a Masonic Temple

during the George Washington Era (Washington was himself a Freemason). Note the Knights Templar

cross on the robes.

On their own website, in an attempt to defend themselves, the Freemasons bluntly lie and claim the Templars

never worshipped Baphomet. As a fact, Freemasonry still does and so does the Illuminati.

Here is a statue of George Washington himself, posing as Baphomet:

Here's a link in which they explain that freemasonry has nothing to do with the baphomet

http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/baphomet.html

I personally don't know nor care which one to believe is true but basically just giving a broad understanding to what I've understood.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

washington's pose is based on the old statues of Zeus

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Pictures????

 

[Extermination]

I was waiting for this. So, what's wrong about what I wrote?

The Freemasons are simply an organization to abolish religion.

The Illuminati are a shadowy cult that hopes to establish the "New World Order" and also remove religion.

Anything else, is irrelevant.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

The Freemasons are simply an organization to abolish religion.

pfft hahahhaha

freemasons love religion

 

[Extermination]

Which explains why they're affiliated with the Illuminati?

Illuminati's, or anyone thought to be one, were persecuted by the Vatican Church.

 

[major pain]

The Freemasons are simply an organization to abolish religion.

The Illuminati are a shadowy cult that hopes to establish the "New World Order" and also remove religion.

Anything else, is irrelevant.

Yes, because the way to abolish religion is by requiring members to have a belief system in place and also teach lessons directly from the bible...

 

[musicology1985]

The Freemasons are simply an organization to abolish religion.

The Illuminati are a shadowy cult that hopes to establish the "New World Order" and also remove religion.

Anything else, is irrelevant.

I already proved everything u just wrote wrong on the first page. u the dumbest poster in this thread. that's not an insult, it's the truth.

 

[musicology1985]

Which explains why they're affiliated with the Illuminati?

Illuminati's, or anyone thought to be one, were persecuted by the Vatican Church.

the Bavarian Illuminati came directly out of the Vatican by way of the Jesuits. did u even read the first page and check if the information was accurate or not?

 

[Extermination]

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist trolling.

It's so easy nowadays. No shit they have a belief system.

Just to clarify, I wasn't being serious in the slightest.